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rnd
11-22-2011, 12:37 PM
Just and FYI if you are trying to build retention with your customer during the holidays, RND Signs has just added a bunch of greeting and thank you card ideas on their website. Providing a referral offer inside your card could help spread your name this holiday season.

http://www.rndsigns.com/print-greeting-cards.asp

MowingMowingMowing
11-22-2011, 04:19 PM
Do you have anything industry specific that could compete with http://www.cardscheaper.com/greeting-cards/landscaping/

TNGrassCutter
11-23-2011, 09:49 PM
I like the idea of business related cards but all the ones I see look to cartoony, I would want something a little nicer and more professional looking.
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Roger
11-24-2011, 02:06 PM
If one needs to send out holiday (whatever that means) to retain customers, there is much wrong with the business.

RGM
11-24-2011, 02:44 PM
I just hit the wallmart and get standard cards and mail out every year for about the last 15

elitelawnteam1
11-26-2011, 12:27 AM
I don't see what's wrong with the "cartoony ones" I could understand if it was going to anyone other than a homeowner, it may not be smart to use those. I saw some of them and I'm pretty sure my customers would get a kick out of those! I am for sure getting some.

MowingMowingMowing
11-28-2011, 04:43 AM
If one needs to send out holiday (whatever that means) to retain customers, there is much wrong with the business.

How can I say this ... you're wrong lol

Giving Christmas cards to customers is not a sales tactic used to solely retain customers. I use it to further build rapport with customers. I only do this on Christmas and have found all my customers look forward to it.

Just remember, the lawn industry is, as we all know, one of the most oversupplied industries at the moment, even small things like a Christmas card will help you stand out.

Almost all of our operations on LS are small businesses ... small businesses are built on relationships ... you build relationships by getting to know your customer, establishing rapport, providing a valuable service, etc. ... you see where I'm going with this?

MowingMowingMowing
11-28-2011, 04:45 AM
I don't see what's wrong with the "cartoony ones" I could understand if it was going to anyone other than a homeowner, it may not be smart to use those. I saw some of them and I'm pretty sure my customers would get a kick out of those! I am for sure getting some.

http://www.cardscheaper.com/greeting-cards/landscaping/sw-00119/

I used those last year. They were the best I could find; unfortunately, now I need to find new ones for this year.

Roger
11-28-2011, 08:57 PM
....

Giving Christmas cards to customers is not a sales tactic used to solely retain customers. I use it to further build rapport with customers. ....

Celebration of Christmas is reserved for the incarnation of the Lord Jesus Christ. Exchange of Christmas greetings is an exchange between parties who share the same belief of the incarnation.

Using Christmas cards as a way of building rapport with customers is to marginalize the meaning of Christmas. If you wish to use the idea to be a witness to the gospel that is important to you, that is great. The time is ripe for being a strong witness. But, to use the event as a way to promote business is to misconstrue the meaning of Christmas. Remember, the gospel is an offense to the non-believer. And, Christmas is inextricably related to the gospel of Jesus Christ.

Do you send out cards for celebration of Wiccan events? ... for events related to Hinduism?

There are plenty of ways to build rapport with customers, and to do so is a wonderful thing. But, such actions need not be associated with the celebration of Christmas.

RussellB
11-28-2011, 09:02 PM
Wow just wow
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Ducke
11-28-2011, 09:25 PM
I went to the Hallmark store and got couple box's of a card I liked and took the home and used Microsoft Publisher to customize them.

Darryl G
11-28-2011, 10:18 PM
I was thinking about sending out cards but only need about 50 or so and don't want to have a printer do an order that small. Do any of you guys just hand write your company name on them? Seems kinda unprofessional to me.

corey4671
11-29-2011, 12:37 AM
we made our own card last year with this photo...

MowingMowingMowing
11-29-2011, 03:21 AM
Celebration of Christmas is reserved for the incarnation of the Lord Jesus Christ. Exchange of Christmas greetings is an exchange between parties who share the same belief of the incarnation.

Using Christmas cards as a way of building rapport with customers is to marginalize the meaning of Christmas. If you wish to use the idea to be a witness to the gospel that is important to you, that is great. The time is ripe for being a strong witness. But, to use the event as a way to promote business is to misconstrue the meaning of Christmas. Remember, the gospel is an offense to the non-believer. And, Christmas is inextricably related to the gospel of Jesus Christ.

Do you send out cards for celebration of Wiccan events? ... for events related to Hinduism?

There are plenty of ways to build rapport with customers, and to do so is a wonderful thing. But, such actions need not be associated with the celebration of Christmas.

Perhaps I didn't come across as I intended.

I was just pointing out that I don't use Christmas cards as a way to retain customers. I truly enjoy the holiday and meeting briefly with all of the customers. Regarding rapport, I didn't mean it on solely a business level, I enjoy interacting and catching up with the customers during this time as well. A good amount of my customers are elderly and/or widowed, so just having someone stop by and give them something and talk with them makes their day.

I am a Christian, but just choose not to try and push any of my beliefs on people, I let them decide on their own terms.

I've yet to run into a customer that doesn't celebrate Christmas, most are either elderly or middle aged families. This is also why I had not put any thought into the Wiccan reference.

nepatsfan
11-29-2011, 07:34 AM
I would be worried about sending cards to people that dont celebrate christmas. I dont have a religion box when people sign up for service

Ducke
11-29-2011, 09:51 AM
Perhaps I didn't come across as I intended.

I was just pointing out that I don't use Christmas cards as a way to retain customers. I truly enjoy the holiday and meeting briefly with all of the customers. Regarding rapport, I didn't mean it on solely a business level, I enjoy interacting and catching up with the customers during this time as well. A good amount of my customers are elderly and/or widowed, so just having someone stop by and give them something and talk with them makes their day.

I am a Christian, but just choose not to try and push any of my beliefs on people, I let them decide on their own terms.

I've yet to run into a customer that doesn't celebrate Christmas, most are either elderly or middle aged families. This is also why I had not put any thought into the Wiccan reference.

I would be worried about sending cards to people that dont celebrate christmas. I dont have a religion box when people sign up for service

I am Canadian:canadaflag: and I celebrate Christmas that is what the majority of us in Canada:canadaflag: do. I am not forcing anything on anyone I am just celebrating my beliefs. If you don't want to celebrate Christmas that is fine but NO ONE has the right to stop me or anyone else from celebrating when and or how we choose.I am not a overly religious person, I find people that spout the Bible every time they open their mouth are just pompous bores and are the major problem in this world, Believe what you will but keep the preaching to yourself and enjoy life and LOVE THY NEIGHBOUR.
If any of my customers feel they need to say something to me about it .........well I don't need them as a customer that bad.
Its not that I'm against anyone else I believe if they want to celebrate their way I will support their right to do it and I believe most think the same way.
Sorry for the rant but This whole Happy Holidays vs Merry Christmas is a load.

:drinkup:MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE :jester:

Darryl G
11-29-2011, 09:53 AM
I would send out something generic like "Season's Greetings" or "Happy Holidays"...nothing with any religious tone to it at all.

Total Lawn and Sprinkler
11-29-2011, 11:30 AM
I personally don't think there's anything wrong with sending out Christmas cards to customers (assuming they're Christian). I would, however, avoid being commercial at all costs. Having your brand name associated with the card is enough.

What's wrong with sending out Christmas cards? My vet sends birthday cards for my dog and I appreciate that silly gesture.

JB1
11-29-2011, 11:34 AM
I just send out calanders instead.

JoeAtRU
11-29-2011, 12:17 PM
I used to send greeting cards when I was in the real estate business. and it definitley helped. Sure, many people just threw them out - but if it gets you one or two clients it more than pays for itself.

LawnScapers of Dayton
11-29-2011, 03:36 PM
I don't care what or if my customers celebrate Christmas......I do!.....therefore they get Merry Christmas cards.........

Its never been a problem.......and there is no law against oooffffeeeeeennnnddddiiinng anyone!

I am so tired of this "I would be concerned about people who don't celebrate Christmas" crap......

JB1
11-29-2011, 04:25 PM
I don't care what or if my customers celebrate Christmas......I do!.....therefore they get Merry Christmas cards.........

Its never been a problem.......and there is no law against oooffffeeeeeennnnddddiiinng anyone!

I am so tired of this "I would be concerned about people who don't celebrate Christmas" crap......



you have to remember, some people like to make more out of this than what it is.

nepatsfan
11-30-2011, 02:57 PM
I am Canadian:canadaflag: and I celebrate Christmas that is what the majority of us in Canada:canadaflag: do. I am not forcing anything on anyone I am just celebrating my beliefs. If you don't want to celebrate Christmas that is fine but NO ONE has the right to stop me or anyone else from celebrating when and or how we choose.I am not a overly religious person, I find people that spout the Bible every time they open their mouth are just pompous bores and are the major problem in this world, Believe what you will but keep the preaching to yourself and enjoy life and LOVE THY NEIGHBOUR.
If any of my customers feel they need to say something to me about it .........well I don't need them as a customer that bad.
Its not that I'm against anyone else I believe if they want to celebrate their way I will support their right to do it and I believe most think the same way.
Sorry for the rant but This whole Happy Holidays vs Merry Christmas is a load.

:drinkup:MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE :jester:

I don't care what or if my customers celebrate Christmas......I do!.....therefore they get Merry Christmas cards.........

Its never been a problem.......and there is no law against oooffffeeeeeennnnddddiiinng anyone!

I am so tired of this "I would be concerned about people who don't celebrate Christmas" crap......

you have to remember, some people like to make more out of this than what it is.

The reason why we would do it is for the purpose of a good will gesture to our customers. Some of you might be out spreading the word and going door to door christmas caroling and professing your love for the lord but that isn't why we would do it.

For me it's business and that's it. I would feel like it's a nice gesture if it was sent to me. I am not sure if some people would. Do I care what they think? You bet your a$$ I do. People spend a lot of money with us and I feel like if even 5-10 customers might look at it and have adverse feelings about it then I'm not going to do it. The people who would/could be offended by this have one thing in common with me and every customer I have....the same green money. I am in business to make money, it is a service industry, you have to keep customers happy. I could give two sh$ts about christmas myself, I always give out more than I receive and despite the old saying, it isn't better.

That being said I may do the seasons greetings thing this year.

Ducke
11-30-2011, 03:52 PM
I don't care what or if my customers celebrate Christmas......I do!.....therefore they get Merry Christmas cards.........

Its never been a problem.......and there is no law against oooffffeeeeeennnnddddiiinng anyone!

I am so tired of this "I would be concerned about people who don't celebrate Christmas" crap......

I agree 110%.
what next ????
Can't fly your Countries Flag because it might offend your neighbour. :dizzy:

Just an example: If I go to India I don't go into a restaurant demanding a BEEF Burger or go around Dubai drinking BEER its just common sense "When in Rome do as the Romans do".
I'm just tired of having to bend over and take it up the @$$ by every frigging
idiot that come's here from some god awful dessert country. If you don't like it where you are do something about it, but don't come here to where I am happily living and try to change the way I live.

Once again sorry:o for the Rant but this just makes my blood boil. :angry:

LawnScapers of Dayton
11-30-2011, 05:46 PM
This is all part of the wussification of this country. Would I care if I received a "Happy Hanukkah" card....no.......no and no.

I see story after story about businesses that drop the PC crap and their business booms.............that is the route I take. If you are offended by something like a Christmas Card then I can live without your money and without you. You will not survive when it really counts....

Oh I carry a concealed weapon as well...............does that offend you???

Darryl G
11-30-2011, 06:04 PM
Would you send someone a Happy Birthday card because it's YOUR birthday? LOL

nepatsfan
11-30-2011, 06:22 PM
I agree 110%.
what next ????
Can't fly your Countries Flag because it might offend your neighbour. :dizzy:

Just an example: If I go to India I don't go into a restaurant demanding a BEEF Burger or go around Dubai drinking BEER its just common sense "When in Rome do as the Romans do".
I'm just tired of having to bend over and take it up the @$$ by every frigging
idiot that come's here from some god awful dessert country. If you don't like it where you are do something about it, but don't come here to where I am happily living and try to change the way I live.

Once again sorry:o for the Rant but this just makes my blood boil. :angry:

This is all part of the wussification of this country. Would I care if I received a "Happy Hanukkah" card....no.......no and no.

I see story after story about businesses that drop the PC crap and their business booms.............that is the route I take. If you are offended by something like a Christmas Card then I can live without your money and without you. You will not survive when it really counts....

Oh I carry a concealed weapon as well...............does that offend you???
Just to be clear...nothing offends ME. I am not trying to change the world here, I am trying to make a living. I do what is in the best interest of the company. I think it's ridiculous that people give a sh$t about it, but I think some do. Happy hanakuh, festivus or anything else. I'm just not gonna send cards that I feel could be offensive.

You guys want to change the world and don't care if you offend people that believe differently...honestly, good for you! I love it. I bend over backwards for our customers. All I really care about is doing quality work and the bottom line on my tax return...if that means holding back on "christmas" cards, then that's what I'll do. If you dont need the money...I'll take it. Can you ever have too much?

LawnScapers of Dayton
11-30-2011, 08:19 PM
There are a lot of things more important than money.......

I am not trying to change the world.....I just refuse to not be me
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RGM
11-30-2011, 08:25 PM
I send Holiday cards to all my customers if I think a Christmas could in anyway possibly be offensive I send seasons greeting card.

LawnScapers of Dayton
11-30-2011, 08:29 PM
AWould you send someone a Happy Birthday card because it's YOUR birthday? LOL


I would if that was a typical practice in our society
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MowingMowingMowing
11-30-2011, 09:38 PM
I send Holiday cards to all my customers if I think a Christmas could in anyway possibly be offensive I send seasons greeting card.

This might be the best solution.