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greentech2007
12-16-2011, 01:38 PM
Just a question i have does it hurt or really matter if you do a leaf clean up and drive eqip. on the grass with some frost. Or is it something you guys worry bout this time of year. I tend to be careful and try to let the frost mostly burn off before i start but got clean ups to do before it snows. Help me out.

Ridin' Green
12-16-2011, 02:10 PM
I have had to drive on frosted lawns before, and it does harm them IMO. It leaves tire marks that can still be seen in sprintime. They will eventually go away, but maybe not before you have lost the account from angering the owner.

Driving heavy equipment across lawns that have frost basically breaks the grass blades. It may not snap them off, but it breaks them in the middle, which causes them to show exactly where you drove on them for a long time- usually until springtime when the grass is growing good, and has finally grown enough to allow you to cut off the damaged part of the grass blades. I use a big BP for lawns like that, then tarp the leaves to remove them.

idealscape
12-16-2011, 02:40 PM
Just a question i have does it hurt or really matter if you do a leaf clean up and drive eqip. on the grass with some frost. Or is it something you guys worry bout this time of year. I tend to be careful and try to let the frost mostly burn off before i start but got clean ups to do before it snows. Help me out.

DONT DO IT. It will leave definitive marks of where your machine or truck has been...Best practice is to stay off frosted grass.

Kelly's Landscaping
12-16-2011, 02:54 PM
High temp of 20 degrees you got 15 more clean ups to go and they predict snow coming in the next 4-5 days. Sounds far fetched hardly that's very common up here and you just have to grin and bare it.

Something I would like as and option on back packs would be to use the heat of the engine and send it through the tube so when the leafs that are frozen to the ground wrapped in mud could be freed. You'd have a way to work through it which would be a huge advantage up here.

THEGOLDPRO
12-16-2011, 02:59 PM
You do what you gotta do, I was mowing grass last week that was frozen lol.

Ridin' Green
12-16-2011, 03:01 PM
Something I would like as and option on back packs would be to use the heat of the engine and send it through the tube so when the leafs that are frozen to the ground wrapped in mud could be freed. You'd have a way to work through it which would be a huge advantage up here.

That's an excellent idea. If it comes out down the road somewhere, you have this thread to show you came up with it first LOL

tony b
12-16-2011, 06:29 PM
High temp of 20 degrees you got 15 more clean ups to go and they predict snow coming in the next 4-5 days. Sounds far fetched hardly that's very common up here and you just have to grin and bare it.

Something I would like as and option on back packs would be to use the heat of the engine and send it through the tube so when the leafs that are frozen to the ground wrapped in mud could be freed. You'd have a way to work through it which would be a huge advantage up here.ITFLMAO Somehow I think that comment was serious??

Kelly's Landscaping
12-16-2011, 08:24 PM
Tony thought you and I were no longer talking so to what do I owe the pleasure of your wisdom yet again.

tony b
12-16-2011, 11:33 PM
I don't have any wisdom in the biz. You have to have over 2,000 posts to know anything. I do however love the bp idea.....priceless.

jiggz
12-17-2011, 12:43 AM
if you detuned the engine to produce 14cfm this would be genius lol


ps. dont run anything on frost, unless you absolutely have to

RigglePLC
12-28-2011, 10:44 AM
I am trying to understand what causes frost tracks on grass. I think it takes a sudden freeze. After its been cold for a week or two it does not happen. I walked on my grass yesterday when it was 25--no problem at all. Frost on the grass does not seem to happen later during cold weather.

If the grass makes a sound like walking on frozen needles of glass--stay off.

Darryl G
12-28-2011, 11:38 AM
I stay off frosted grass. It will damage it.

ralph02813
12-28-2011, 12:17 PM
I am trying to understand what causes frost tracks on grass. I think it takes a sudden freeze. After its been cold for a week or two it does not happen. I walked on my grass yesterday when it was 25--no problem at all. Frost on the grass does not seem to happen later during cold weather.

If the grass makes a sound like walking on frozen needles of glass--stay off.

I think you notice the damage most when we have the kind of weather we have been having or when there is a sudden first frost. The grass is stilll feeding pretty good, so there is a lot of water stored in the cells, when it gets cold quick it freezes and expands, the wetter and warmer it has been the closer it is to bursting, step on it and it quietly goes boom!

MarkintheGarden
12-31-2011, 04:29 AM
Yes, sometimes the grass is brittle and sometimes not, when it is brittle the damage is almost complete, leaving dead grass foot and tire prints.

The weather conditions are a big factor, but through chemical change, the leaves become more or less resilient to breakage.