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ple_1969
12-31-2011, 12:57 PM
Over the summer I posted about the system that I'm going to build this spring. Got some really good advice :)Since this system will be fed by a river I was thinking about using Maxipaws. I tried the I-20 and RB 5004 and liked them, however nervous about particulates clogging the gears or scoring the internals.

So my question is... are the maixpawas really that bad? Please note that I am a homeowner, so if it needs some cleaning that would not be an issue.

If I use a 100 mesh filter would that allow the gear driven rotors?

Pete

Wet_Boots
12-31-2011, 01:21 PM
Even 100 mesh filtration is not absolute proof against problems with gear-drive heads. You will like the results you see with Maxipaws, and can minimize issues with the personal attention you can afford to give your own property.

FIMCO-MEISTER
12-31-2011, 01:28 PM
I like maxipaws and wouldn't hesitate to use them. I'll put their durability up with any of the residential gear drive rotors. I also think they can be adjusted for better du than the rotors as well. May be the only rotor type head that one can cheat on spacing and get away with it.

Having said that they don't pop up very high and in today's 4" cutting heights would need weed eating to keep the grass from interfering with the stream.
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Mike Leary
12-31-2011, 02:42 PM
Avoid having Maxis around Terrior-type dogs, though the service work is great. payup

ple_1969
12-31-2011, 02:54 PM
Mike - if you had to choose between:

- I20
- RB 5004
- Maxipaw

what would you choose?

Wet_Boots
12-31-2011, 03:12 PM
Toro 300 series stream rotors

Mike Leary
12-31-2011, 03:15 PM
Mike - if you had to choose between:

- I20
- RB 5004
- Maxipaw

what would you choose?

I'd never use a Maxi, the're junk and should be only used by pikers when the pressure is so piss-poor as to not support anything else. If I had pressure that bad, I'd have a talk with the client to see what we could do about it. The RB 5000/5500 6" stainess and the Hunter I-20 6" "Ultra" stainless are the best heads on the market, period.

Mike Leary
12-31-2011, 03:46 PM
5500 with MPR nozzles, looks like too much front end loading, but tests proved I was wrong.

Kiril
12-31-2011, 08:12 PM
I'd never use a Maxi, the're junk and should be only used by pikers when the pressure is so piss-poor as to not support anything else. If I had pressure that bad, I'd have a talk with the client to see what we could do about it. The RB 5000/5500 6" stainess and the Hunter I-20 6" "Ultra" stainless are the best heads on the market, period.

Finally someone said it .... :clapping:

Wet_Boots
12-31-2011, 08:18 PM
OP is pumping river water - Maxipaws fit the conditions

Mike Leary
12-31-2011, 08:20 PM
Finally someone said it .... :clapping:

Jim Lewis taught me everything I know. :rolleyes:

Wet_Boots
12-31-2011, 08:31 PM
except what good music is... http://www.lawnsite.com/showthread.php?t=339247

Mike Leary
12-31-2011, 08:36 PM
I believe Jim got an award from RB a few years ago.

Mike Leary
01-01-2012, 12:04 PM
OP is pumping river water - Maxipaws fit the conditions

What do you think I'm pumping, deer piss? :dizzy:

Wet_Boots
01-01-2012, 12:20 PM
I know for a fact that grit in the water that can pass a 100 mesh screen is capable of stopping gear drives - sprinkler manufacturers want 'polished' water for their products - it happens that impact heads have no gear drives to get fouled by grit

Mike Leary
01-01-2012, 12:31 PM
All it takes is a "settling cistern" to get rid of the fines.

SoCalLandscapeMgmt
01-01-2012, 08:07 PM
Forget the Maxi-Paw. Bring back the 15111B. (If you have to ask what that is then you haven't been at this very long).

Mike Leary
01-01-2012, 08:18 PM
Forget the Maxi-Paw. Bring back the 15111B. (If you have to ask what that is then you haven't been at this very long).

Talk about obsolete! I quit using that crap as soon as gear drives happened. Once Ed Hunter invented the Stream Rotor for Toro, I was gone.

Wet_Boots
01-01-2012, 08:30 PM
I still have some of those heads, I expect.

Mike Leary
01-01-2012, 08:33 PM
I still have some of those heads, I expect.

Then you would be the last guy in the world to have a set of those crappy wiper seals. :p

Wet_Boots
01-01-2012, 08:37 PM
Minipaw wiper seals are about the finest going - that patent bought them the time they needed to work on gear drives

Mike Leary
01-01-2012, 08:54 PM
Minipaw wiper seals are about the finest going - that patent bought them the time they needed to work on gear drives

Oh, that would explain why every single Mini/Maxi whatever heads I looked at were leaking from the wiper seal? Geez, Boots, time for bi-focals. :hammerhead:

Wet_Boots
01-01-2012, 09:00 PM
The first batch they sent out (free samples for sending in the postcard) are still working error-free over 30 years later

Mike Leary
01-01-2012, 09:18 PM
As I've posted before, water conditions have a lot to do with wiper seal failures. Up north, iron and manganese are prevalent.

Wet_Boots
01-01-2012, 09:28 PM
my samples got city water, and I set the heads myself, not below grade, so they got every chance to shine

Kiril
01-01-2012, 09:54 PM
pickin & flickin
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pickin & flickin

Wet_Boots
01-01-2012, 10:01 PM
it isn't like the football game is exactly riveting (sorry Dallas)

FIMCO-MEISTER
01-02-2012, 10:52 AM
If the bucket fills up that is not necessarily a wiper seal failure. Not too many maxi paws get installed properly.

Cowboys did not deserve to be in the playoffs. JJ has managed to make them perpetually mediocre because he sucks a a GM.
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Kennedy Landscaping
01-03-2012, 12:18 AM
The only thing I've found about the Maxi Paws so far is they're kind of a pain to set. Although I will admit I'm much more familiar with a 5004 than a Maxi Paw. The Maxi Paws do seem to cover really good though.