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jvanvliet
01-11-2012, 09:58 AM
Anybody have experience with the new X-Mark Standers? We are considering retiring the Metro's and replacing them with the Standers.

I have read mixed reviews on Wright Standers.

sjessen
01-11-2012, 11:35 AM
Am looking at getting a Vantage myself. Not as many threads about them as Grandstands. They seem to be getting pretty good reviews overall.

grassman177
01-11-2012, 04:32 PM
same mower, just modified a bit to fit the ultra cut deck.

only other dif is the controls are rods instead of cables. i actually like that better, and is retrofittable if one wanted to buy the parts.

Landscape Poet
01-11-2012, 07:42 PM
How tall are you guys? I am close to 6 foot 5 - and I can feel every little turn and movement on any of the standers you guys are mentioning in my back. Not sure if you guys are tall guys or not - if you are - I have no idea how you are doing it.

jvanvliet
01-11-2012, 07:58 PM
How tall are you guys? I am close to 6 foot 5 - and I can feel every little turn and movement on any of the standers you guys are mentioning in my back. Not sure if you guys are tall guys or not - if you are - I have no idea how you are doing it.

I'm 6'2" my crew would be using them, average about 5'4" & 120-135 lbs.

rob7233
01-11-2012, 09:06 PM
This last Oct at the GIE, I spent considerable time testing riding the standers - Wright, Toro and the Exmark. Not real world testing here in FL but I'll give my two cents.

Last time I seriously looked at a stander type mower was in 2006. I was looking at buying a new 36". I tested a friend's 36 Wright stander and thought it was a squirrely machine that would also leave plenty of divets with turns. Granted the controls were touchy and I spent too little time on it. (I wound up buying the Hustler 36" Mini Z instead.)

Like Mike, sitting was much more comfortable on the back and knees. Since 2006, a lot of new comers have come to the market and I'd thought I'd try them all out again at the GIE.

The Toro is a nice machine with the many updates now standard in the new models and is very similar to the Exmark. However, the Exmark is smoother and my favorite, since it has the direct linkage for their hydro controls instead of the cables like in the Toro. The Exmark just has a more direct and confidence inspiring controls. I STILL think the Wright is a quirky machine that is not well damped in the controls. I would never buy one. Mowing with a stander is like mowing with a sulky in that you feel the ground contours and bumps but not as bad.

jvanvliet
01-12-2012, 07:43 AM
This last Oct at the GIE, I spent considerable time testing riding the standers - Wright, Toro and the Exmark. Not real world testing here in FL but I'll give my two cents.

Last time I seriously looked at a stander type mower was in 2006. I was looking at buying a new 36". I tested a friend's 36 Wright stander and thought it was a squirrely machine that would also leave plenty of divets with turns. Granted the controls were touchy and I spent too little time on it. (I wound up buying the Hustler 36" Mini Z instead.)

Like Mike, sitting was much more comfortable on the back and knees. Since 2006, a lot of new comers have come to the market and I'd thought I'd try them all out again at the GIE.

The Toro is a nice machine with the many updates now standard in the new models and is very similar to the Exmark. However, the Exmark is smoother and my favorite, since it has the direct linkage for their hydro controls instead of the cables like in the Toro. The Exmark just has a more direct and confidence inspiring controls. I STILL think the Wright is a quirky machine that is not well damped in the controls. I would never buy one. Mowing with a stander is like mowing with a sulky in that you feel the ground contours and bumps but not as bad.

Thought had crossed my mind, I wouldn't want to take the pounding myself. I've seen the divots left by the Wright, I attributed them to the operator's speed on the turn, scalping seems to be a problem also.

The Stander is under consideration primarily for it's loading foot print and maneuverability on small sites. I'll have to look at the mini-Z's

Thanks for the feedback. :drinkup:

ndols2
01-14-2012, 10:39 PM
I have one, I really like it, really comfortable and strips nice. (on blue grass at least ) a little front end lite. I put a protero twin can bagger on the front, big mistake because you cant run hills sideways with it on, they have a rear bagger setup for it witch would prob. work better. (got it at auction for $200, retail at $2000) so I will deal with it. other than that. I love it.

Ben'sLawnCare
01-14-2012, 11:40 PM
I spoke with my local eXmark dealer today about this very issue. He said that he has only sold two and they have both been in and out of the shop with an assortment of issues. Said they are nothing but problems left and right and wouldn't recommend them.

rob7233
01-15-2012, 01:10 AM
Sorry BEN, but I got lost with what exactly are you saying. Stander mowers in general or the Exmark stander specifically? What type of issues/problems?

f50lvr2
01-15-2012, 02:58 AM
I love mine. I've had the 24hp 52" for a little over 1 season and around 500 hrs. It's what I spend most of my time on. Rock solid reliability for me, I had to replace the battery but that was my fault.

I had to switch away from riders because they were ruining my back, went to WB's but started to get too tired so the stander was the best option for me. I only compared the vantage to the toro and other WB's. Our wright dealer was too overpriced and the closest model they had was a fixed deck and still over $1k more than the exmark. I preferred the Exmark controls over the toro and the ultracut deck. The toro and exmark are by far the most comfortable to use because of the rear platform.

My only real complaint is the lack of decent bagging options. I use a side catcher now, it does fine but fills up very quickly.

f50lvr2
01-15-2012, 02:59 AM
The exmark ended up being about $1k less than the toro for me also, which easily made up my mind. I'd strongly look at the scag v-ride if I needed another one.

Ben'sLawnCare
01-15-2012, 07:19 PM
Sorry BEN, but I got lost with what exactly are you saying. Stander mowers in general or the Exmark stander specifically? What type of issues/problems?



I did say the eXmark dealer I am pretty sure. I am not sure what sort of issues they were. I just know that the eXmark dealer was not satisfied with them and would not recommend them. The exmark stander that is.

ndols2
01-16-2012, 02:32 AM
I forgot the one issue I have had with it, (only the first year model) the neutral switch is a problem. the fixed it on the 2011 model. if you jump off it is sup. to kill the blades, and still run, but it would just stall out. with some adjusting I got it sorted out. but other than that. you can run all day, and no sit down back pain

jvanvliet
01-16-2012, 08:07 AM
I'm going to see if I can get a demo...

nwimaintenance
01-18-2012, 01:06 PM
I would recomend getting a demo. I did with a wright stander and hated it. I think i am to tall (6'-3"). They also do not hold a hill like a walk behind. The only advantage is you can fit a lot of them on a trailer.

whoopassonthebluegrass
01-18-2012, 01:48 PM
I can only speak of demos. I demoed a 36" Toro and thought it was a little too loosey-goosey for my tastes. Then I took out a 36" Wright Stander RH for a day.

Not quite as manueverable as when one is on a sulky, but still pretty good. Ultimately I bought neither because I didn't trust them on my extreme hills. Given the choice between the two, though - I'd have gone with the Wright. Simpler, more stable, and tougher IMO.

Still fantasize about getting one, but not in the cards at present...

jvanvliet
01-18-2012, 06:29 PM
I would recomend getting a demo. I did with a wright stander and hated it. I think i am to tall (6'-3"). They also do not hold a hill like a walk behind. The only advantage is you can fit a lot of them on a trailer.

Yes, size is the consideration, if I take the 36" Metros off I need to make sure I can get the replacements on with 52" & 60" Exmark ZTR's. Things are tight now. I'm going to be looking at the Toro mini Z.