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John From Florida
01-28-2012, 07:48 PM
Tough as in difficult to make a living doing lawncare?

Is this accurate in your opinion when compared with northern states? I'm considering doing lawncare part time during college and maybe going full time after graduating. Would I be wasting my time? I doubt this can be entirely true. Some have got to be making it OK. I eventually want to start a family - can I support a small family in this field?

Florida Gardener
01-28-2012, 07:58 PM
IMO it depends on how you run your company. If you offer full service, design and install, tree work, etc, then yes. If you want to be a mow and go only company, good luck.
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zturncutter
01-28-2012, 08:02 PM
What is your major going to be ?

John From Florida
01-28-2012, 08:10 PM
What is your major going to be ?

Majoring in International Affairs, but unfortunately there are very little employment opportunities with this major. Without going into too much detail, I picked this major because it held the most interest to me in terms of what I'd be focusing on. I was also limited to what I was able to pick because of prerequisites. Being half way done with college I'm finding myself in this upsetting and weird situation where I'm realizing I don't want a life of office work, so now I find myself scrambling to figure out what I can do. Lawncare honestly seems like it could be a fruitful and enjoyable profession (the self-employed aspect also adds to the appeal).

zturncutter
01-28-2012, 08:21 PM
Majoring in International Affairs, but unfortunately there are very little employment opportunities with this major. Without going into too much detail, I picked this major because it held the most interest to me in terms of what I'd be focusing on. I was also limited to what I was able to pick because of prerequisites. Being half way done with college I'm finding myself in this upsetting and weird situation where I'm realizing I don't want a life of office work, so now I find myself scrambling to figure out what I can do. Lawncare honestly seems like it could be a fruitful and enjoyable profession (the self-employed aspect also adds to the appeal).

Then I would take as many courses in accounting and business administration as you could work in in the time you have left in college and work your lawn business part time and see how it goes. My son will be graduating from USF this year and many of his friends from high school find themselves in the same situation as you and they are closer to graduation.

John From Florida
01-28-2012, 08:59 PM
Then I would take as many courses in accounting and business administration as you could work in in the time you have left in college and work your lawn business part time and see how it goes. My son will be graduating from USF this year and many of his friends from high school find themselves in the same situation as you and they are closer to graduation.

Yeah, the problem now is that a four year college degree is worth what a high school diploma used to be.

Now I'm beginning to wonder what I do on my own to where having a specific major doesn't matter too much, and landscaping fits the bill pretty well.

In your opinion, is there a reasonable way to make a living doing lawncare here in Florida, or is the market way too saturated with lowballers and just too many plain ole LCO's?

John From Florida
01-28-2012, 09:00 PM
Yeah, the problem now is that a four year college degree is worth what a high school diploma used to be.

Now I'm beginning to wonder what I do on my own to where having a specific major doesn't matter too much, and landscaping fits the bill pretty well.

In your opinion, is there a reasonable way to make a living doing lawncare here in Florida, or is the market way too saturated with lowballers and just too many plain ole LCO's?

*what I CAN do on my own

Kiril
01-28-2012, 09:05 PM
Majoring in International Affairs, but unfortunately there are very little employment opportunities with this major. Without going into too much detail, I picked this major because it held the most interest to me in terms of what I'd be focusing on. I was also limited to what I was able to pick because of prerequisites. Being half way done with college I'm finding myself in this upsetting and weird situation where I'm realizing I don't want a life of office work, so now I find myself scrambling to figure out what I can do. Lawncare honestly seems like it could be a fruitful and enjoyable profession (the self-employed aspect also adds to the appeal).

This is why I think people should spend 2-3 years working before going to school. Simple answer to your problem, change majors. If that means an extra year filling prereqs, so be it.

zturncutter
01-28-2012, 09:26 PM
[QUOTE=John From Florida;4289738]Yeah, the problem now is that a four year college degree is worth what a high school diploma used to be.

I don't agree, you have to do your home work before going to college and determine what fields will be hiring and paying a living wage. Not surprisingly these are fields that are more difficult to get a degree in.
Many people get degrees in fields that are doing little hiring or do not pay well because they require less effort. My son will be graduating with a degree in Mechanical Engineering and already has an employment contract and will be starting his career immediately upon graduation. Over 80% of his initial classmates baled after the first semester 3 years ago. He will be earning more than the old man annually. We are not victims we have to be responsible for our success and failure.

John From Florida
01-28-2012, 09:38 PM
[QUOTE=John From Florida;4289738]Yeah, the problem now is that a four year college degree is worth what a high school diploma used to be.

I don't agree, you have to do your home work before going to college and determine what fields will be hiring and paying a living wage. Not surprisingly these are fields that are more difficult to get a degree in.
Many people get degrees in fields that are doing little hiring or do not pay well because they require less effort. My son will be graduating with a degree in Mechanical Engineering and already has an employment contract and will be starting his career immediately upon graduation. Over 80% of his initial classmates baled after the first semester 3 years ago. He will be earning more than the old man annually. We are not victims we have to be responsible for our success and failure.

I do agree with that, however, upon entering into college there was nothing in the hard sciences or more concentrated fields of study that interested me. Majors in the Liberal Arts and Social Sciences were what I wanted to study, and unfortunately the same ones that yield less employment opportunities upon graduating.

Putting aside the issue of college, is it reasonably possible to make a living doing landscaping in Florida?

zturncutter
01-28-2012, 09:42 PM
[QUOTE=zturncutter;4289765]

I do agree with that, however, upon entering into college there was nothing in the hard sciences or more concentrated fields of study that interested me. Majors in the Liberal Arts and Social Sciences were what I wanted to study, and unfortunately the same ones that yield less employment opportunities upon graduating.

Putting aside the issue of college, is it reasonably possible to make a living doing landscaping in Florida?

With a lot of hard work, determination and education, YES.

scagman52
01-29-2012, 08:17 AM
John From Florida...I'm in central Fl and haven't cut a lawn since the holidays and I probibly won't until March!

yardguy28
01-29-2012, 10:42 AM
Tough as in difficult to make a living doing lawncare?

Is this accurate in your opinion when compared with northern states? I'm considering doing lawncare part time during college and maybe going full time after graduating. Would I be wasting my time? I doubt this can be entirely true. Some have got to be making it OK. I eventually want to start a family - can I support a small family in this field?

i think they mean its tough to make a living because everyone is doing it in FL.

diamond may be right though. it could depend on what you offer with your company.

i don't live there but my parents keep trying to get me to move there because they want to move there. i refuse to leave the snowy winters we have for one thing. plus i'm getting to old to want to start my business over.

OneLineAtATime
01-29-2012, 11:41 AM
Best bet is work with some small & large companies in your area, see you they are making $$$. Learn as much from them as you can. Must be full service, i'm 31 started when i was a teenager. I only have five trucks but offer everything Bucket truck tree service, 2 full time mowing crews, stamped concrete, Hardscapes Etc. I take on contracts two hours away and sub them out. You must think out side the box

John From Florida
01-29-2012, 03:27 PM
John From Florida...I'm in central Fl and haven't cut a lawn since the holidays and I probibly won't until March!

Would you blame that on a lack of demand during this season or low-ballers cutting you out of work? I see LCOs all over my neighborhood even at this point. Although there isn't enough grass to go around when there's an excess of guys, there would be enough work if you beat out the competition through innovative advertising. It works in theory at least :P