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sandsforce665
02-01-2012, 04:15 AM
I am starting up a lawn care business and wanted to see what everyone thought the best mower would be to start out with. Based on what I have read on this site I have decided on a Scag.

My two choices are:

61" Turf Tiger w/27 Liquid cooled Kawi (not sure if it is DFI) 100 hours in like new condition $7800 or less.

52" V-Ride w/26 Kawi, New for $6499

Anyone with experience on both machines please give your input. Also, I am not sure which size to go with as I obviously don't know what type/size of accounts I will have. I do have a residential 42" JD for smaller areas that I can use temporarily if need be.

nepatsfan
02-01-2012, 07:23 AM
v ride is more versatile and better for hills. It's also brand new and under warranty. Turf tiger would be way better if you are cutting a lot of 1 acre plus properties. It's up to you and the kind of properties in your area. Both are very nice machines. The turf tiger will do hills very well for a ztr but I think the v ride is a little better. If you have a lot of very small yards around you the turf tiger is going to be very bulky tough to manuever.

My answer...if you have mostly very big yards go with the TT. If your yards are smaller I would go with the v ride if you are only going to buy 1 mower.

Jimslawncareservice
02-01-2012, 08:53 AM
What will your Target base be? Residential? Commercial? If residential or residential and small commercial, go with the v ride. If large commercial, go turf tiger. There's several hundred pound difference, and the turf on small properties will thank you for going with the v ride.
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sandsforce665
02-01-2012, 09:22 AM
Most likely it will be residential the first season. Thanks for your input.

Also, I just read a thread about V-Ride frames cracking or buckleing. Is anyone else having this problem with them?

orangemower
02-01-2012, 09:22 AM
What will your Target base be? Residential? Commercial? If residential or residential and small commercial, go with the v ride. If large commercial, go turf tiger. There's several hundred pound difference, and the turf on small properties will thank you for going with the v ride.
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For the life of me I can't understand how the lawn on a small property knows the difference between a heavy mower or light mower? Is the soil softer on properties with less sqft of turf?

As far as choices for the OP, I'd stick with the JD rider you have until you get enough customers to buy a commercial mower.

Jimslawncareservice
02-01-2012, 10:59 AM
Well, small lawns mean more turning, more turning means more chances to tear turf, tearing turf means turf stress, turf stress meandering more chances of distance, chances of all that means unhappy customers, unhappy customers means complaints, complaints means more time out of your day and cancelled customers, cancelled customers means your business is failing.

Now being the op is not used to mowing with a ztr, lighter the better, anyway to start with.
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G. Ramey
02-01-2012, 11:03 AM
I have a few hundred hours on a Turf Tiger, but none on a V Ride. I have used a Wright Stander a few times. Based on my experience with the Wright I would not even consider another stander. I also don't understand people thinking a Turf Tiger is to large for small yards. I used mine on every yard I have, from quarter acre to fifteen acres. The only place you will find it to big would be in tight situations like in a grave yard where the small trim edge and wide wheel base will leave you doing a lot of trimming. Go with the Turf Tiger.

orangemower
02-01-2012, 11:05 AM
I would think smaller lawns you would have LESS turning. I can see a heavy mower tearing grass when turning but that can be avoided.

Jimslawncareservice
02-01-2012, 11:11 AM
Not sure what your yards are like Orange, but here, it seems people need to have beds, planters and all.sorts of crap all over. I use a heavy mower, but hate it. I bought a 48 wb last spring to use on the worst yards. Just wait til it rains everyday or every other day.
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orangemower
02-01-2012, 11:18 AM
My smallest property is 1/4 acre lot. They all go up from there.

Jimslawncareservice
02-01-2012, 11:21 AM
Mist be nice to have larger lawns like that
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djagusch
02-01-2012, 12:10 PM
I picked the vride. If it was an option I would of picked a 48" vride for gates. When you grow and add a 60" rider it would make more sense to have that 48" over the 52" vride.

orangemower
02-01-2012, 12:22 PM
Mist be nice to have larger lawns like that
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I like the fact that I don't have to load and unload constantly. My largest is roughly 6 acres.

sandsforce665
02-01-2012, 01:54 PM
I picked the vride. If it was an option I would of picked a 48" vride for gates. When you grow and add a 60" rider it would make more sense to have that 48" over the 52" vride.

Thanks for your input.

The 48" does make alot of sense just starting out. I am trying to follow some of the tips I have read on this site and many say not to buy equipment until you have a need for it. The way I look at it, If I don't mow 1 yard for profit I will have a helluva nice stand-up mower for my own yard, lol. I am 42, retired military and currently working in Afgh as a contractor so I can buy the proper equip to start out. I would rather start with some decent equipment rather than trying to use residential stuff and go through the headaches of broken or down equip and lost customers.

Some of the other equipment I already have such as a 16ft trailer, 2 trucks, 42" residential JD (for now). I will have to buy handhelds but they can be used at the house too. Residential stuff around the house is not worth the $ you save anyway IMO.

weeze
02-01-2012, 03:34 PM
i like the idea of having a 48" stander and a 61" ztr. you could schedule the smaller yards on the same day if they are close enough to each other and just take the stander out and you could schedule the larger yards on another day and take the 61" out. or you could have a big trailer and carry both out every day. the choice is yours. the possibilities are endless. i have a 54" right now and a 21" pushmower. i use the 54" on everything. i only had one yard i used the 21" on. it was a fenced in backyard with a pool and took about 5 min to cut with the 21". that customer moved last year so right now i dont' have any use for the 21".

it all depends on where you live and the customers you have. some on here have alot of gated yards so a mower has to be 36" or less to fit through the gate. others have large open yards that are 3 acres and up and use bigger mowers.

my yards are about 1/4 acre all the way up to 4acres. i hope to get a 61" in the future such as the scag cheetah to add to my lineup. i do have a few yards where my 54" barely fits into places so a 61" only would never work for me.

sandsforce665
02-01-2012, 11:47 PM
i like the idea of having a 48" stander and a 61" ztr. you could schedule the smaller yards on the same day if they are close enough to each other and just take the stander out and you could schedule the larger yards on another day and take the 61" out. or you could have a big trailer and carry both out every day. the choice is yours. the possibilities are endless. i have a 54" right now and a 21" pushmower. i use the 54" on everything. i only had one yard i used the 21" on. it was a fenced in backyard with a pool and took about 5 min to cut with the 21". that customer moved last year so right now i dont' have any use for the 21".

it all depends on where you live and the customers you have. some on here have alot of gated yards so a mower has to be 36" or less to fit through the gate. others have large open yards that are 3 acres and up and use bigger mowers.

my yards are about 1/4 acre all the way up to 4acres. i hope to get a 61" in the future such as the scag cheetah to add to my lineup. i do have a few yards where my 54" barely fits into places so a 61" only would never work for me.

Thanks for your feedback.

The Cheetah does look like a sweet machine given the speed and suspension. The new price is a little more than I want to risk right now for a start-up business and they are very hard to find used. In fact, I have never seen a used one. I WILL own one in the future though.

I agree that the 48 stander and 61 ztr sounds like a good combo. Your idea of scheduling small yards on the same day and larger ones on diff days is good. I am all about efficiency and not hauling around a ton of unecissary equip.

weeze
02-02-2012, 12:11 AM
glad i could help. the cheetah just came out last year so it's still pretty new and so is the v-ride. maybe you could start with a v-ride and then add a cheetah later on.

sandsforce665
02-04-2012, 12:50 AM
More votes please. Your input is needed.

THEoneandonlyLawnRanger
02-06-2012, 11:02 AM
I chose a Vride, its more versitle than a zero turn, I was going to need a large zero and a small walkbehind for my yards and didnt want to fool with the costs and additional maintenance of running two machines, so i picked the 52 vride, Its large enough and fast enough for my large yards but is also nimble enough for my smaller ones. Sure there are some things i would change on it just like anyone would with a machine or car/truck but overall very happy with mine.

Blades Lawn Maintenance
03-12-2012, 02:38 PM
Dooea anyone like there 46 v ride
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HPSInc
03-12-2012, 06:58 PM
there is no 46 vride. theres a 48. the size difference between a 52'' vride and a 61'' turf tiger is huge. the TT is a beast of a mower. i can do some pretty big properties with my 52'' vride and its super easy to manuever. im going to try a few diff. things this year to get my cut better but its probably got nothing to do with the mower itself. i started out with my first mower as a 52'' vride. the TT would have been too much mower. also the frames shouldnt be buckling. there was a recal on the 2010 52'' (my mower) and they wleded some plates on it and its not had a problem since i bought it.

Blades Lawn Maintenance
03-12-2012, 07:02 PM
there is no 46 vride. theres a 48.
Ohhhh dang but that's what I meant
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