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ALEX'S LANDSCAPING
02-03-2012, 10:56 PM
Today I went to my dealer to check when he will be getting his 2012 inventory
and saw that he now sells the RedMax fully-syntethic oil that is much much cheaper than the stihl fully synthetic ULTRA-HP oil.

P.s. I will be running it in my Stihl Br600 magnum and KM110-R

What are your thoughts about this oil and how does it compare to stihl's stuff?
Thanks guys. Any comments are welcome! ;)

ALEX'S LANDSCAPING
02-03-2012, 11:25 PM
Bump...............

sweetland
02-03-2012, 11:28 PM
i would keep going with the Stihl cause the redmax and the husky oil gums up

orangemower
02-03-2012, 11:29 PM
Amsoil all the way.

ALEX'S LANDSCAPING
02-03-2012, 11:32 PM
Amsoil all the way.

I would just LOVE to go with the Amsoil oil but there are no Amsoil oil dealers around me.

Ridin' Green
02-04-2012, 12:05 AM
I would just LOVE to go with the Amsoil oil but there are no Amsoil oil dealers around me.

You may be suprised if you do a search on their website for dealers near you. I know I was. There are a lot of private individuals that are dealers right near me. Fortunately, I found an auto supply dealer close to me that carries Amsoil, and I stocked up. It is waaaayyy cheaper the HP Ultra.

ALEX'S LANDSCAPING
02-04-2012, 12:12 AM
You may be suprised if you do a search on their website for dealers near you. I know I was. There are a lot of private individuals that are dealers right near me. Fortunately, I found an auto supply dealer close to me that carries Amsoil, and I stocked up. It is waaaayyy cheaper the HP Ultra.

Just 3 questions.

About how much cheaper is the Amsoil over the Stihl stuff?
What is the Amsoil website?
How do I mix the Amsoil?
Thanks alot Thumbs Up

orangemower
02-04-2012, 12:13 AM
I would look around. Auto parts stores may have it, or maybe you can order online and get some.

orangemower
02-04-2012, 12:15 AM
Alex, you mix it with gas. LOL j/k

I mix it at 80:1 and use 89 octane.

Ridin' Green
02-04-2012, 12:39 AM
Just 3 questions.

About how much cheaper is the Amsoil over the Stihl stuff?
What is the Amsoil website?
How do I mix the Amsoil?
Thanks alot Thumbs Up

There was a thread here a while back in which I posted all the numbers, and how they break down mixing both at 50:1, and then mixing Amsoil at 80:1, and 100:1. This was for Amsoil Saber. I paid about $10.50 per quart (32 oz)for it. Stihl HP Ultra is about $23 for a 6 pack of 6.4 oz bottles (total of 38.4 oz), so even mixing both at 50:1, the Amsoil is a lot cheaper, and at 80:1 (which is where I run it mixed with 93 octane), it is even more of a difference.

Stihl HP Ultra 6 pack of 6.4 oz bottles @ $23 makes 15 gallons at 50:1 (each 6.4 oz bottle makes 2.5 gallons, so 2.5X6=15 gallons of mixed fuel).

Amsoil Saber quart @ $10.50 makes 15 gallons at 50:1, and at 80:1 makes 20 gallons (8 oz of Saber mixed at 80:1 makes 5 gallons. 8X4=32 oz, or one quart = 20 gallons of mixed fuel).

This is the home page-
http://www.amsoil.com/

And this is the page you want to look at for Saber, which is what you want for your application-
http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/atp.aspx

Son's Lawn Maintenance LLC
02-04-2012, 03:31 AM
Im an Amsoil dealer and i can supply u with what ever u want.

ALEX'S LANDSCAPING
02-04-2012, 09:04 AM
Im an Amsoil dealer and i can supply u with what ever u want.

I am in Canada

orangemower
02-04-2012, 09:16 AM
I am in Canada

He should still be able to ship it to you.

ALEX'S LANDSCAPING
02-04-2012, 09:33 AM
I mix it at 80:1 instead of 50:1???
Found about 15 private dealers of Amsoil on their website
But I will go to my auto parts store today to check if they have it (they might) :)
Thanks again guys!

orangemower
02-04-2012, 09:59 AM
The Amsoil can be mixed at 100:1 if you want and still offer great protection. I stick with 80:1 myself. I bet you come home with a quart or two. :)

ALEX'S LANDSCAPING
02-04-2012, 10:04 AM
The Amsoil can be mixed at 100:1 if you want and still offer great protection. I stick with 80:1 myself. I bet you come home with a quart or two. :)

80:1 is how many gallons of gas to how many ml of Amsoil???
Sorry I am just new to this stuff:confused:

orangemower
02-04-2012, 10:09 AM
http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/atp.aspx

ALEX'S LANDSCAPING
02-04-2012, 10:42 AM
http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/atp.aspx

Thanks,
Found the mixing instructions here on LawnSite from a thread in '09

Just for anyone looking how to mix Amsoil:

8oz to 5 US gallons of gas for 80:1
Will go and get some 2day!!!! :waving:

ALEX'S LANDSCAPING
02-04-2012, 11:26 AM
Anyone else wanna chime in?

ALEX'S LANDSCAPING
02-04-2012, 12:48 PM
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ALEX'S LANDSCAPING
02-04-2012, 06:36 PM
Any other 2-cycle fully syntethic oil suitable for the 4-mix engines that y'all are using and works great?

Just trying to get some more responses so I know what to use :)
No luck with Amsoil oil

orangemower
02-04-2012, 06:39 PM
Mail order it.

ALEX'S LANDSCAPING
02-04-2012, 06:42 PM
Mail order it.

How secure is it?
(the website)
How much is shipping?
Thx a lot!

Jason Rose
02-04-2012, 08:24 PM
Get a commercial account with Amsoil! It costs nothing and you can buy at dealer cost! That's what I have and it reduces the prices quite a bit. They ship from warehouses located all over the US, and I'd bet they have warehouses in Canada as well. The warehouse I get mine from is about 45 minutes away and just up the road from my walker dealer actually. I just order when I'm planning a trip there for something.

Their site is fine to deal with, I've ordered from them half a dozen times at least. Always pay through the website, whether I pick it up or have it shipped. I use Amsoil in all my mowers and trucks. It DOES make a difference. I don't do their crazy long oil change intervals though. I know they say it's not necessary to change the oil more often than even 10,000 miles, but I just won't do it. I'd rather have piece of mind that I have fresh oil.

DEPENDABLE LANDSCAPING
02-04-2012, 08:32 PM
We have been using the full synthetic from Baileys. No problems, burns clean and fairly priced. I think
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Ridin' Green
02-04-2012, 08:50 PM
80:1 is how many gallons of gas to how many ml of Amsoil???
Sorry I am just new to this stuff:confused:

I had that posted for you in post #10:)

Fawcett
02-05-2012, 01:28 PM
I have used both. Years a go I started only using the Red Max oil in my EBZ 8050 blowers as well as in my Red Max trimmer because thats what the warranty requires. That and at least 89 octane fuel, I always use 91+ just because. Last time I went to get oil the dealership was out of the Red Max so I used the Stihl and was impressed. I think the machines run a little free'er and I can vouch that the machines have less of an exhaust smell with the Stihl oil. My clothes reek of 2-stroke exhaust when I use the Red Max stuff!

Still, sometimes when I have extra race fuel left over from my go-kart I'll run it through my equipment. 110 octane leaded fuel with Motul oil baby!

In the end, I think the Red Max oil leaves more carbon build up as opposed to the Stihl. I have yet to try Amsoil but from what I have read I am interested in it for sure.

Lefet
02-05-2012, 01:52 PM
I have always used the Redmax oil too. I've never noticed a problem or lingering smells. Maybe I should try using something different in one to see if there is a difference?

Ridin' Green
02-06-2012, 01:12 AM
I have always used the Redmax oil too. I've never noticed a problem or lingering smells. Maybe I should try using something different in one to see if there is a difference?

Try the HP Ultra, or Amsoil. With the Stihl HP, I never see any smoke unless one of my machines are started cold, and at lower temps. The smell is also much, much less than with std Stihl orange bottle oil or other brands of oil including some semi synthetics that I've tried.

With Amsoil mixed at 80:1, or 100:1 there's so little oil in the fuel mix as to be almost undetectable in smoke or smell, yet it is guaranteed to work at that ratio.

ALEX'S LANDSCAPING
03-31-2012, 11:07 PM
Sorry to wake this thread up but, I wanted to let you guys know that I ended up buying Amsoil INTERCEPTOR synthetic 2-cycle oil.
I was really happy that I could finally find an Amsoil dealer! He also gave me a really good deal: $10.00 for one quart. Regular price was 12.00 dollars.

Thanks for all your help guys!

Ridin' Green
03-31-2012, 11:53 PM
Alex,
just be aware that Interceptor is rated for 50:1 mix ratios , not higher like we have been talking about (80:1/100:1). Thoise rates are for use with Saber, which is specifically formulated for outdoor power equipment usage.

Interceptor info-
http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/ait.aspx

Saber info-
http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/atp.aspx

ALEX'S LANDSCAPING
03-31-2012, 11:56 PM
Alex,
just be aware that Interceptor is rated for 50:1 mix ratios , not higher like we have been talking about (80:1/100:1). Thoise rates are for use with Saber, which is specifically formulated for outdoor power equipment usage.

The dealer told me to mix 100ml of INTERCEPTOR into 5 litres of 91 gas, right?

ALEX'S LANDSCAPING
03-31-2012, 11:59 PM
Alex,
just be aware that Interceptor is rated for 50:1 mix ratios , not higher like we have been talking about (80:1/100:1). Thoise rates are for use with Saber, which is specifically formulated for outdoor power equipment usage.

Interceptor info-
http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/ait.aspx

Saber info-
http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/atp.aspx

Thank you for the links!

Ridin' Green
04-01-2012, 12:04 AM
It should be printed right on the back of the bottle it came in. Mine are. You're in Canada, and I don't know the metric equivalent. here it is 6.4 oz for 2.5 gallons of fuel to get 50:1 mix. Do it just like you would with HP Ultra to get 50:1 in your metric system numbers is the easiest way I can tell you.

ALEX'S LANDSCAPING
04-01-2012, 12:06 AM
It should be printed right on the back of the bottle it came in. Mine are. You're in Canada, and I don't know the metric equivalent. here it is 6.4 oz for 2.5 gallons of fuel to get 50:1 mix. Do it just like you would with HP Ultra to get 50:1 in your metric system numbers is the easiest way I can tell you.

Yea, thanks for confirming for me! Just wanted to see if that's the way to mix it.

Ridin' Green
04-01-2012, 12:14 AM
It is with Interceptor. If you get your hands on some Saber, then you can go leaner.

ALEX'S LANDSCAPING
04-01-2012, 10:59 AM
It is with Interceptor. If you get your hands on some Saber, then you can go leaner.

I could hardly get my hands on INTERCEPTOR.