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hi_speedreed
03-27-2012, 08:48 PM
So this guy asked me to mow this rental he owns. It's tiny, 15-20min job so I tell him sure. I go to mow today, unload the trimmer and start around the house and zip, out of string. Back to the truck loading it up and this girl about 25 comes out and yells "hey, are you guys here to mow the grass?" I say yes and she says, "bout time you got here! my grass was getting high" Then she asks "are you going to take out my trash too?" and I said no, I'm just here to cut the grass. She says, "Well, Dave said you would take it out" I said He didn't say anything about that to me. and they she tells me I need to call him. I explain he hired me to mow the grass. Then get this, she says "I would call him but I'm out of minutes, The government don't give me nothin no more" I really bit my tongue and said once again, Dave hired me to mow the grass, I will do extra work but I expect to be paid, I don't work for free. I put my ear plugs back in, fired up the trimmer and anytime she spoke the rest time I was there I revved the engine and pretended not to hear.

grandview (2006)
03-27-2012, 09:02 PM
That's because Your Senator Byrd gave them so much free stuff they don't know how do anything themselves.

DA Quality Lawn & YS
03-27-2012, 11:46 PM
Entitlement city baby. Don't let it get to you.

Nutsedge
03-28-2012, 12:17 AM
Wow, talk about entitlement in some of these responses. And your better than them because??? :usflag:

From a non biased POV.

The lady was told something by her landlord, why would she question that? She doesn't know you from Adam and for all she knows your just a hired hand that does the stuff he doesn't want to, which would/could include taking out garbage.

I dont even think entitlement is the correct word to use here. If that were the case it would stand to reason that she ask everyone that walk by to take her trash out. Again misinformed/confused perhaps.

Plain and simple the landlord misspoke/tenant misunderstood the wires got crossed somewhere.

From her comment about the Govt I read that as that her unemployment ran out and she cannot afford to pay her bill/buy more minutes. The Govt doesn't provide phone service or directly give access to telephone communication. I'm sure you knew that though and instead were just looking to stir the pot. Much as I have done only without the hindrance of social/racial/economical animus.

Alan0354
03-28-2012, 04:05 AM
That's the result of almost 4 years of oblama!!! Hey I am entitled to health care, when a woman want to have fun, it is your responsibility to make sure she gets free contraception. It's other people's fault if you don't read the loan paper and sign your name on the dotted line.......that they should tell you the interest rate is going to go up.

ShooterK2
03-28-2012, 08:07 AM
Wow, talk about entitlement in some of these responses. And your better than them because??? :usflag:

From a non biased POV.

The lady was told something by her landlord, why would she question that? She doesn't know you from Adam and for all she knows your just a hired hand that does the stuff he doesn't want to, which would/could include taking out garbage.

I dont even think entitlement is the correct word to use here. If that were the case it would stand to reason that she ask everyone that walk by to take her trash out. Again misinformed/confused perhaps.

Plain and simple the landlord misspoke/tenant misunderstood the wires got crossed somewhere.

From her comment about the Govt I read that as that her unemployment ran out and she cannot afford to pay her bill/buy more minutes. The Govt doesn't provide phone service or directly give access to telephone communication. I'm sure you knew that though and instead were just looking to stir the pot. Much as I have done only without the hindrance of social/racial/economical animus.

Does anything here give her the right to have the "bout time you got here" attitude to the company that is coming to take care of her yard work, which is obviously free to her?

I don't think it is so much about the request to take out the trash as it is about her attitude. I wasn't there, but that's the way I read it.

I'm pretty sure the OP was just venting.

Durabird02
03-28-2012, 08:20 AM
Wow, talk about entitlement in some of these responses. And your better than them because??? :usflag:

From a non biased POV.

The lady was told something by her landlord, why would she question that? She doesn't know you from Adam and for all she knows your just a hired hand that does the stuff he doesn't want to, which would/could include taking out garbage.

I dont even think entitlement is the correct word to use here. If that were the case it would stand to reason that she ask everyone that walk by to take her trash out. Again misinformed/confused perhaps.

Plain and simple the landlord misspoke/tenant misunderstood the wires got crossed somewhere.

From her comment about the Govt I read that as that her unemployment ran out and she cannot afford to pay her bill/buy more minutes. The Govt doesn't provide phone service or directly give access to telephone communication. I'm sure you knew that though and instead were just looking to stir the pot. Much as I have done only without the hindrance of social/racial/economical animus.

Pretty sure you missed the part that the OP was referring to as "entitlement". If you look at the original post it is in RED, expecting the government to give her more minutes. It would be easy for me to quit my job and live off of the government, but my pride has kept me from doing that. The idea that the government owes her something is his main point i believe.

More than likely her landlord said nothing of the sort about the trash, and she had tried it on the last mowing guy and it worked so she tried it again.

Smallaxe
03-28-2012, 09:08 AM
I haven't taken on new jobs of any kind for quite a while, but when I come across a situation like that, I say, "Tell Dave to forget it... I've changed my mind."... If you don't get rid of the PITAs right away pretty soon everybody becomes one...

BTW, this IS an example of entitlement mentality, and anyone who justifys her mouth is likely in that same camp... :)

hi_speedreed
03-28-2012, 09:32 AM
Entitlement knows no race. But for the record she was an approximately 25 y.o. white female



From her comment about the Govt I read that as that her unemployment ran out and she cannot afford to pay her bill/buy more minutes. The Govt doesn't provide phone service or directly give access to telephone communication. I'm sure you knew that though and instead were just looking to stir the pot. Much as I have done only without the hindrance of social/racial/economical animus.


That's where you are wrong. They do give phone access now.
http://www.assurancewireless.com/Public/Welcome.aspx is just one example of many.

This company isn't giving away phones and minutes out of the kindness of their hearts. The government subsidizes this program.

Here is an article about free cell phones.

http://wvgazette.com/News/201105301135

She wasn't talking about unemployment. There are lots of jobs in the Charleston area right now. I work part time and the place I work has 3 full time openings and 15 part time openings and they can't get the positions filled. The people who apply can't pass the screening tests. Questions like, would you ever steal? if you saw a coworker take money from the drawer and put it in his pocket would you let a manager know? would you let friends use your discount card?

The people who make it to the drug can't pass. I'm not arguing whether or not drug testing is right. I am saying these people are warned a couple weeks in advance of the drug test when they apply and click the button that says I will submit to a drug test. They know its coming and they can't stop smoking pot for a couple weeks to pass.

Everyone on here that has employees knows how hard it is to find good help. This girl thinks she is ENTITLED to at least more minutes on her free phone but probably everything else too.

Kiril
03-28-2012, 09:42 AM
That's where you are wrong. They do give phone access now.
http://www.assurancewireless.com/Public/Welcome.aspx is just one example of many.

This company isn't giving away phones and minutes out of the kindness of their hearts. The government subsidizes this program.

Here is an article about free cell phones.

http://wvgazette.com/News/201105301135

ROFL .... read the article before you post it as "proof".

"The first thing for folks to understand is that this is not a government program, so to equate it to other government assistance programs isn't accurate. The program is funded through the Universal Service Fund. The Federal Communications Commission requires that each phone service carrier contribute to the fund, which is "giving folks a helping hand to get back on their feet in a terrible economy," Pflanz said.

Some carriers do charge small universal services fees on their bills, but Pflanz said the program is in "no way coming from taxpayers' dollars."

hi_speedreed
03-28-2012, 10:03 AM
ROFL .... read the article before you post it as "proof".

"The first thing for folks to understand is that this is not a government program, so to equate it to other government assistance programs isn't accurate. The program is funded through the Universal Service Fund. The Federal Communications Commission requires that each phone service carrier contribute to the fund, which is "giving folks a helping hand to get back on their feet in a terrible economy," Pflanz said.

Some carriers do charge small universal services fees on their bills, but Pflanz said the program is in "no way coming from taxpayers' dollars."

I did read the article, it is proof that people get free cell phones. That was the point. Now you can argue all you want that it is not coming from taxpayers just like the person in the article but I believe getting charged a fee so someone else can have a free cell phone is a tax. If the government (FCC) requires a business to pay a fee (tax) that fee in some way gets passed on to the consumer. As a business owner do you eat the cost of mulch, stone, gasoline and equipment and just charge labor or do you pass those costs onto your consumer?

Kiril
03-28-2012, 10:10 AM
I did read the article, it is proof that people get free cell phones. That was the point.

It was? If I may use your red font.

This company isn't giving away phones and minutes out of the kindness of their hearts. The government subsidizes this program.


Now you can argue all you want that it is not coming from taxpayers just like the person in the article but I believe getting charged a fee so someone else can have a free cell phone is a tax. If the government (FCC) requires a business to pay a fee (tax) that fee in some way gets passed on to the consumer.

And this has what to do with a subsidy?

As a business owner do you eat the cost of mulch, stone, gasoline and equipment and just charge labor or do you pass those costs onto your consumer?

So according to your logic the cost of mulch, stone, gasoline and equipment is a government subside. :dizzy:

hi_speedreed
03-28-2012, 10:28 AM
The government requires carriers to pay into the Universal Service Fund. The Universal Service Fund is not a private sector charity where people donate of their own volition. The FCC (government) makes them in order for them to continue to do business. So yes, I believe when the government takes or forces them to give, however you want to look at it, to a fund so people can have free cell phones. That to me means the government is subsidizing the program. The government gets money by taking from the people and business that have money.

My analogy about the mulch was to say businesses pass along the cost of doing business to the consumer. Having to pay into a fund in order for people to have free cell phones to me is a tax on carriers. Carriers add a fee to the bill to offset this tax. That means the consumer is the person truly paying this tax. Anytime tax dollars are used to give to people who don't have, to me, is the government subsidizing their phone.

You may think it's great that people get free stuff straight from the government or in the way I have described. I don't. We will just have to agree to disagree.

Kiril
03-28-2012, 10:32 AM
The government requires carriers to pay into the Universal Service Fund. The Universal Service Fund is not a private sector charity where people donate of their own volition. The FCC (government) makes them in order for them to continue to do business. So yes, I believe when the government takes or forces them to give, however you want to look at it, to a fund so people can have free cell phones. That to me means the government is subsidizing the program. The government gets money by taking from the people and business that have money.

Well it is rather obvious you don't understand what a government subsidy is, but that is OK, you can believe what you want.

hi_speedreed
03-28-2012, 11:09 AM
Any time the government takes money from a person or business and gives that money to a person or business to prop them up or help them be better than they would on their own is a government subsidy.
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nortonlawncare
03-28-2012, 11:38 AM
like it or not there are people out there who make it their full time job to do nothing and find was get get everything for free.... and it pisses me off

themaintenanceman
03-28-2012, 01:56 PM
just a quick note....... went thru 3 guys in two weeks.. so far this spring.
1. 32 male white-- called off twice in one week. @ 11:00 am.
(this guy wanted paid cash so not to interupt his food stamps) sent text saying career link will pay 1500 for his transportation. wanted to know if i would put a tranny in his car and write him up something to show as proof and he will split it with me. WTF!
2.31 male white.... re-hire from last year. I used to pick him up every day last year. 30 min trip. he told me he wouldnt have prob with transportation. on the 5th day of picking him up (I needed help) he is standing outside with his daughter. he asked if my wife would watch her. so she did. he said wou;dnt happen again. next day he said " your not going to believe this." again he wants my wife to babysit. fired that day.
3. 27 male white.. this guy called off the first day " his daughter was sick " (he was married and lived with his wife who is on disability. (trust me she could function fine. i see her around my hometown all the time. fired.
so yes speed I feel you makes you wanna find another good company and just partner with them. as for the other yahoos on here posting stupid comments.... if the govt mandates something....... you beteer believe that they created a paid position somewhere to over see it....... keep drinking the kool-aid guys

chesterlawn
03-28-2012, 03:35 PM
People that don't leach off the government consider it a subsidy, those that do don't.

bocas
03-28-2012, 03:42 PM
How about the goverment requires lawn maintenance, Is that a tax to support trimmers?

Nutsedge
03-28-2012, 04:54 PM
I haven't taken on new jobs of any kind for quite a while, but when I come across a situation like that, I say, "Tell Dave to forget it... I've changed my mind."... If you don't get rid of the PITAs right away pretty soon everybody becomes one...

BTW, this IS an example of entitlement mentality, and anyone who justifys her mouth is likely in that same camp... :)

Ignorance at its finest. Try to group someone who sees a different view than you into a negative light. I'm sure every time you find yourself in a conversation with someone that doesn't share the same opinion it always ends with you calling them a Socialist/communist, right? Be honest....

I have been lucky enough to never have to request the aid of my government thus far in my life. If bad times fell on my family I am glad that we live in a country where there are programs to fund keeping yourself healthy/fed/clean or in other words just living. Unfortunately not everyone has had the kind of life I have made for myself. I work over 60h a week and earn a damn fine living and im proud to be able to provide the lifestyle my family enjoys.

So please before you make yourself look anymore less educated just think before you start yelling at your CPU.

Liberty Landscaping LLC
03-28-2012, 05:40 PM
Nutsedge
I see your point and agree with you mostly. There are a lot of people who have fallen on tough times and needed the programs as i and apparently you would need to get yourself on our feets and then there are those who make it their lively hoods to leach off these fine systems permanently. I have seen it first hand. They know every way and program to continue collecting unemployment going to school sec 8 free phones and they drive brand new or very young cars even escalades and that pisses me off that i am paying for all that. God forbid there is a small issue in their living space they call in the world to report them even the good landlords who keep nice clean places. These same people normally destroy them before leaving too.
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lawnguyland
03-28-2012, 06:29 PM
I hate mowing lawns so others can leech off the system, get free food and get free phones. Pisses me off. I think if someone gets any govt $ then they should earn it. Give them a reflective vest and some garbage bags to start cleaning up. MAke them do something.....anything! Got no legs? Fine, give them office work. Whatever. No more free rides. I do have compassion and sympathy for those in need- not system abusers.