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soddog#1
03-31-2012, 09:39 PM
i have built some traps from schematics i got from the internet to catch armadillo's because the metal traps were not holding them. i also have found the best spring traps to catch pocket gophers with. my business is mostly sod and irrigation but this trapping has definitely filled some slow day. i know all you guys are on the lawns alot and if your seeing these problems let me know i'll send the best ways to catch. Good extra money.

Ric
04-01-2012, 09:22 AM
i have built some traps from schematics i got from the internet to catch armadillo's because the metal traps were not holding them. i also have found the best spring traps to catch pocket gophers with. my business is mostly sod and irrigation but this trapping has definitely filled some slow day. i know all you guys are on the lawns alot and if your seeing these problems let me know i'll send the best ways to catch. Good extra money.

Soddog

Yep there is money in trapping.

I am listed on the FWC website as a Nuances Wildlife Trapper and have been for many years now. I also post on Trapping forums and listen to trapping Pro casts on Sunday night etc etc.

A good place for a beginner to start is u tube. There is a ton of videos about traps and trapping. You have to wade past the bad to get to the good but it is worth the effort.

While I am sure your traps are great, I have been trapping the same way with the same equipment that works great for me for years.



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bug-guy
04-05-2012, 08:44 AM
ric
i have heard it was illegal to release armadillo's, because they are a non-native species. is that true??

Ric
04-05-2012, 09:48 AM
ric
i have heard it was illegal to release armadillo's, because they are a non-native species. is that true??

Bug Guy

Good point and I had this discussion just yesterday about Feral Bees with a Bee Remover guy at Burger King where we were both having lunch.

He removes the African Bee Queen and replaces her with a European Queen Bee. He of course makes his real living from Honey production and does Bee removal on the side. Therefore he is relocating the Bees which is Legal as is relocating Armadillo.

The Big issue with armadillos is DISEASE Beside Leprosy they carry a number of diseases. 95% of the Human population is immune to leprosy, but do you want to take a change you are in the 5%? BTW Carville Louisiana has the only Leprosy hospital that I know of in the world.

It is not illegal to relocate nuisance wildlife however Dr Bill Kern of the U of F research center in Broward County is the leading expert on Nuisance wildlife. He recommend euthanizing all feral wild life for the following reasons.

1. The transmission of disease especially with Bees which are in decline because of unknown reasons. Or course Armadillos for disease reason stated above. But also all nuisance wildlife

2. Wildlife become habituated to Urban areas and relocating them doesn't keep them from seeking other urban areas. In other words relocating your problem becomes someone Else's problem.


PS this is the one place or time you want to Lie to the customer. THE LAST THING YOU TELL THE CUSTOMER IS YOU ARE GOING TO KILL THAT CUTE LITTLE ANIMAL. tell them any thing else but don't tell them that PITA animal is going to die.

I use live traps or Havaheart type traps. I use CO2 to euthanize. I place the trap in a large Plastic trash bag and inject CO2. This is humane and painless. BTW The Law demands humane euthanizing. Drowning is not exceptable no matter how easy it is. Shooting or discharging a gun is also not legal in certain areas. Freezing is acceptable and at one time I had a Freezer for just reason but that was when I did a lot of trapping


Wildlife Removal goes hand in hand with a Total Pest Control service. But it is a skills and takes some training to do correctly. LS doesn't have a forum on wildlife trapping, but there are Forums for exchange of trapping tricks which I go to almost daily. There is a lot more to trapping than meets eye.


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Landscape Poet
04-05-2012, 04:57 PM
BTW The Law demands humane euthanizing. Drowning is not exceptable no matter how easy it is. Shooting or discharging a gun is also not legal in certain areas. Freezing is acceptable and at one time I had a Freezer for just reason but that was when I did a lot of trapping


Wildlife Removal goes hand in hand with a Total Pest Control service. But it is a skills and takes some training to do correctly. LS doesn't have a forum on wildlife trapping, but there are Forums for exchange of trapping tricks which I go to almost daily. There is a lot more to trapping than meets eye.


. So you can not drown the little critters because the law says that is inhuman but freezing them is acceptable? Not sure but I do not think freezing is a way I would prefer to go if I had to.

Ric
04-05-2012, 10:06 PM
So you can not drown the little critters because the law says that is inhuman but freezing them is acceptable? Not sure but I do not think freezing is a way I would prefer to go if I had to.

Mikey

CO2 and a plastic trash bag works and is what I normally use for Warm blooded animals.

Freezing is what I use many years ago when I had a county contract to Trap Iguanas. They are cold blooded reptiles and don't feel the cold.



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soddog#1
04-06-2012, 09:58 PM
I built a wood box with seals around the top that fit the whole trap in. Connect co2 hose and in no time done. And if you want to throw them in regular trash you must freeze them till morning of garbage pick-up. BTW nqmed the box the Armadillo Auschwitz think its appropriate, and I find my customers really could care less what I do with them. Cause they usually call after they plant annuals and armadillo tears them all up.



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Ric
04-06-2012, 10:54 PM
I built a wood box with seals around the top that fit the whole trap in. Connect co2 hose and in no time done. And if you want to throw them in regular trash you must freeze them till morning of garbage pick-up. BTW nqmed the box the Armadillo Auschwitz think its appropriate, and I find my customers really could care less what I do with them. Cause they usually call after they plant annuals and armadillo tears them all up.



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Soddog

By all rights you are suppose to use a Bio Hazardous waste disposal. But the Freezer to the morning of pick up works great unless you are a fisherman.

Like the old Cajun Fisherman once told me. You hang them Dillos or Road Kill in them tree over that there water. A week later you goes to the up wind side and start hualing in them fish with every cast. He also uses a Twice Barrel Shoot Gun for getting them there armadillios.


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PremierPest
04-30-2012, 10:20 PM
We have a wildlife trapping division of our pest control company. In Florida, you have to have a state pest control license to trap rodents, bats, and birds. Most trappers also are pco's. We offer rat control (http://www.premierwildlife.com/orlando-rat-trapper.html), squirrel control (http://www.premierwildlife.com/orlando-squirrel-control.html), raccoon control (http://www.premierwildlife.com/orlando-raccoon-control.html), and wildlife control (http://www.premierwildlife.com/orlando-wildlife-control.html).

Ric
04-30-2012, 11:02 PM
We have a wildlife trapping division of our pest control company. In Florida, you have to have a state pest control license to trap rodents, bats, and birds. Most trappers also are pco's. We offer rat control (http://www.premierwildlife.com/orlando-rat-trapper.html), squirrel control (http://www.premierwildlife.com/orlando-squirrel-control.html), raccoon control (http://www.premierwildlife.com/orlando-raccoon-control.html), and wildlife control (http://www.premierwildlife.com/orlando-wildlife-control.html).

Premier

I am not sure where you are getting your INCORRECT information from. But PLEASE DON"T POST FALSE FACTS. There are already to many ***** in the industry


Fact is most Trapper are not PCO and the only animal that requires a General Household Pest license are Bats. Bat can only be relocated because they eat enough Mosquitoes to be considered beneficial.

To poison rodent does require a GHP License. However Trapping Nuisance Wildlife including rodents doesn't require a License. Wildlife trapping is regulated by the FWC, check out their website for the real truth if you don't believe me.


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Ric
04-30-2012, 11:25 PM
We have a wildlife trapping division of our pest control company. In Florida, you have to have a state pest control license to trap rodents, bats, and birds. Most trappers also are pco's. We offer rat control (http://www.premierwildlife.com/orlando-rat-trapper.html), squirrel control (http://www.premierwildlife.com/orlando-squirrel-control.html), raccoon control (http://www.premierwildlife.com/orlando-raccoon-control.html), and wildlife control (http://www.premierwildlife.com/orlando-wildlife-control.html).

Premier Pest

Your Misinformation really threw up some red flags. Therefore I checked out Orlando Pest Control on the State Website. It is not listed as a Licensed Pest Control company. Nor is Premier Pest management listed as a licensed pest control company. BTW when I click on the Orlando pest control it takes me to Premier Pest Management website.

http://app1.flaes.org/ceu/




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bugsNbows
05-01-2012, 03:53 PM
Ric, I'm not sure the State does a very good job keeping current on the website. We have people listed that have not been employed for a long time. I expect budget cuts put a crimp in site updating. Just my $.02.

Ric
05-01-2012, 04:38 PM
Ric, I'm not sure the State does a very good job keeping current on the website. We have people listed that have not been employed for a long time. I expect budget cuts put a crimp in site updating. Just my $.02.

Ric

I have the same thing on my state website listing. I am told the state parks that person on the last company they were associated with. Once they go to work with an other company, they come off our companies listing. With all the Budget cuts I am well aware of the reliability or lack of reliability of the the State websites in general.

As for checking out Orlando Pest Control, The Greater Orlando area Phone book doesn't list a company called "Orlando Pest Control" EITHER. There actually is a "Premier Pest Management" but they are in Naples Fla half a State away from Orlando.

To me there are certain steps in training a New applicator. First order of business is understanding the Laws and how it applies to you and your job. That means knowing what licenses are required. Next comes Pesticide safety and then finally the chemicals and how to use them. IMHO this isn't rocket science and most people can learn it. BUT IT TAKES TIME AND EXPERIENCE. You and I are lucky in the fact we both have something from U of F called a degree in horticulture. Still I have had a Hispanic people with a 3rd grade education from a foreign country teach me several things about horticulture.


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Landscape Poet
05-01-2012, 06:14 PM
Just out of curiosity I googled Premier Pest as google is really good about pulling local stuff that is relevant to your local area and I found these guys. Not sure if this is the poster or not but I was able to find them. The guy on the right used to work in the Winter Park Lesco I think and if it is him then his business is really really new as he was working there until recently.


http://premierpestcontrolfl.com/id19.htm

Landscape Poet
05-01-2012, 06:51 PM
Just out of curiosity I googled Premier Pest as google is really good about pulling local stuff that is relevant to your local area and I found these guys. Not sure if this is the poster or not but I was able to find them. The guy on the right used to work in the Winter Park Lesco I think and if it is him then his business is really really new as he was working there until recently.


http://premierpestcontrolfl.com/id19.htm

And according to the information for that company on the website they did in fact just have their original license issued to them in March of this year.

Ric
05-02-2012, 08:17 AM
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Premier pest CONTROL and Premier Pest MANAGEMENT are in fact two different companies.


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PremierPest
05-20-2012, 10:48 PM
Ric,

Educate yourself before you post YOUR FALSE FACTS!

the only animal that requires a General Household Pest license are Bats. To poison rodent does require a GHP License.

If you click here (http://www.flaes.org/pdf/CHAPTER%20482_07_01_2011.pdf), read Chapter 482.021, section 21-22c, You will see that FDACS enforces the control of vermin (mice, rats, & squirrels) bats, & pest birds (i.e. pigeons), not just bats, and not just poisoning them!

However Trapping Nuisance Wildlife including rodents doesn't require a License. Wildlife trapping is regulated by the FWC, check out their website for the real truth if you don't believe me.

If you click here (http://myfwc.com/license/wildlife/nuisance-wildlife/trapper-registration/), you will read that anyone wanting to remove mice, rats, squirrels, bats or pest birds should contact the Florida Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services (FDACS) before doing that type of work. Why? Because those are regulated by FDACS! If you want to trap raccoons, opossums, or armadillos, you don't need a license!

Thank God you know all those laws so accurately! Just wondering, how long have you been a licensed CPO? I know lots of guys with a UF Horticulture degree that don't know anything about lawn care, indoor pest, or wildlife control. You preach about knowing the laws and how important that is, but you don't even know the basics! I'm embarrassed for you!