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South Florida Lawns
05-06-2012, 01:57 PM
I have this one employee that's been with me the longest out of everybody on the truck, a great worker and educated in this industry, but lately he's had this attitude about working and him slacking off and getting away with it. He will make the other guys pick up his slack and these past two weeks its just pizzed me off. I have pulled him aside and talked to him and he just laughs like I'm making a big deal of it, and this last week it really got to me. I think tomorrow (Monday) I will sit him down and tell him enough is enough. Have you guys ever had this problem? What did you do? It all started when I gave him a raise last month.

easy-lift guy
05-06-2012, 02:14 PM
Do you have a formal written policy in place for your employees?, if yes is there a provision for his actions and consequences if said actions continue after a verbal warning??. It sounds like he has perhaps had enough, IMO. If you don't have anything in writing create something for the future. When you have a chat with him tomorrow make sure you give him a written warning, and have him sign off on it and date it.
Do not let him drag you or your company down.
easy-lift guy

Duekster
05-06-2012, 03:11 PM
Some times it is better to let employees know they are appreciated.

DEPENDABLE LANDSCAPING
05-06-2012, 04:02 PM
Have the sit down. Point oit the positives, the negatives and give him the direction you need him to move in so that he can become more succesful in your company. If he is not on board make sure he knows you may have t o hire someone who can fill that role.
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Patriot Services
05-06-2012, 04:19 PM
A weeks unpaid vacation may correct his attitude.:usflag:

gregory
05-06-2012, 05:04 PM
i agree with easy lift guy.. make him sign a write up paper.. i dont care who you are everybody is replaceable...sit him down and expalin why you gave him this raise and what you've seen so far.. tell him if it contuies you'll have to find someone who wants to work and make his paycheck...

jvanvliet
05-06-2012, 06:40 PM
I have this one employee that's been with me the longest out of everybody on the truck, a great worker and educated in this industry, but lately he's had this attitude about working and him slacking off and getting away with it. He will make the other guys pick up his slack and these past two weeks its just pizzed me off. I have pulled him aside and talked to him and he just laughs like I'm making a big deal of it, and this last week it really got to me. I think tomorrow (Monday) I will sit him down and tell him enough is enough. Have you guys ever had this problem? What did you do? It all started when I gave him a raise last month.

Just had that problem. I was prepared for a sitdown on Monday but the guy calls me Saturday and hands me an ultimatum.

He's going to be working somewhere else.

Florida Gardener
05-06-2012, 07:03 PM
Just had that problem. I was prepared for a sitdown on Monday but the guy calls me Saturday and hands me an ultimatum.

He's going to be working somewhere else.

what was the ultimatum?

easy-lift guy
05-06-2012, 07:21 PM
Problem solved.
easy-lift guy
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Duekster
05-06-2012, 08:14 PM
Problem solved.
easy-lift guy
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Agreed!

Ultimatums never work in your favor.

Still, I would want to know why it came to that.

Money is rarely the top motivator.

It should not get to that level with a "key" man by surprise ;)

Patriot Services
05-06-2012, 09:25 PM
We have two story lines here guys. Jvan's problem is solved. The OP's is continuing.
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jvanvliet
05-07-2012, 07:09 AM
what was the ultimatum?

We had some down time last Monday as a result of the rain storms. He told me I needed to guarantee him five days work, and that he already had somebody that would guarantee him work.

I told him I won't guarantee work, and to go ahead and take the job with the other firm.

jvanvliet
05-07-2012, 07:12 AM
Agreed!

Ultimatums never work in your favor.

Still, I would want to know why it came to that.

Money is rarely the top motivator.

It should not get to that level with a "key" man by surprise ;)

He got the sense that he was indispensable. It's not the first time I had that problem. Now that he's gone, the rest of the crews will tighten up; until the next time.

Florida Gardener
05-07-2012, 07:30 AM
We had some down time last Monday as a result of the rain storms. He told me I needed to guarantee him five days work, and that he already had somebody that would guarantee him work.

I told him I won't guarantee work, and to go ahead and take the job with the other firm.

Gotchya. Are your guys paid hourly or salary? If hourly, I can see where he's coming from, but don't agree with the ultimatum.
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bugsNbows
05-07-2012, 09:51 AM
Sometimes, "it's my way or the highway" is necessary. Nobody is indispensable.

Ric
05-07-2012, 10:55 AM
Sometimes, "it's my way or the highway" is necessary. Nobody is indispensable.

Sometimes it can cost you in the short run. I have had customers quit because I fired their tech. But it is your business and your policy that the Employee must perform to. In this economy, bad attitudes can sit home. There are way to many People looking for a job right now.



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jvanvliet
05-07-2012, 12:17 PM
They get paid day rate.
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Ric
05-07-2012, 02:11 PM
Sometimes, "it's my way or the highway" is necessary. Nobody is indispensable.

"Shape up or ship out" while it can hurt in the short run A bad attitude can be contagious. You are running your company and don't forget who is in charge. I give them one chance to straighten out. I can't afford to give them any more. It is the old screw me once shame on you, screw me twice shame on me. I really don't care who likes me, But I darn sure want to be respected as a man.


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jvanvliet
05-07-2012, 04:10 PM
I set high standards. Those that meet them get paid a little more than they can get elsewhere, those that don't; don't work for me. I treat all my employees like family, remember birthdays, anniversaries, kids, etc. Help out in financial troubles, have them over for dinners and Bar-B-Ques, etc.

I demand loyalty and refuse to be threatened. If he had a problem he should have come to me. It turns out he was trying to get a couple of the other guys to walk out at the same time (I smell UNION). They told him no because I am fair and good to them (even if I can be an a$$hole and a perfectionist). If they had all walked, they'd be sitting on the curb and they know it.

They call me Papy J... among other things :laugh:

This guy was like a son to me, too bad he got too big for his trousers.