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landscapetastic
05-07-2012, 07:35 AM
Last Year Brand New to the business I charged $250 for a 1/2 acre of
fall cleanup. There was about 8 trailer loads of leaves to haul away.
Dump fee now (was free last year) is now $15 each load. How much should I really be charging for fall cleanup on a 1/2 acre property. Last year with 3 guys
on the 1/2 acre property it took a day and a half to fully cleanup.

Kelly's Landscaping
05-07-2012, 08:21 PM
Tough to say since I do not know how inefficiently you were working and by the sound of it you were no where near my companies output. For starters loading leaves by hand into a trailer is a lot slower then say sucking them up with a truck loader into a 16 yard box. In fact that would likely not have filled up a truck once. Since they get shredded they break down at a ratio of 11-1 or 10-1 so 16 yards is 160 yards of loose leaves.

Then comes what types of blowers you had and what skill levels your guys have. And what capabilities you had to move bulk leaves like a leaf plow on a ZTR. All these things need to be considered and then of course there is the property itself. Is flat with a few trees and some small beds around the house. Or is it hilly or swampy and every step pushes the leaves into the mud. Is there ivy or pachysandra that covers 10000 plus square feet (don't laugh iv done a yard before that had a full acre of ground cover not including the lawn and beds) A typical half acre lawn with some trees and normal beds is 200-400 for the clean up. I run a 5 man crew we charge 60 per man hour so 300 dollars an hour and we normally knock out lawns that size in just over an hour. So my question for you is why so long what was it that ate up all that time?

jrs.landscaping
05-08-2012, 09:52 PM
Last Year Brand New to the business I charged $250 for a 1/2 acre of
fall cleanup. There was about 8 trailer loads of leaves to haul away.
Dump fee now (was free last year) is now $15 each load. How much should I really be charging for fall cleanup on a 1/2 acre property. Last year with 3 guys
on the 1/2 acre property it took a day and a half to fully cleanup.

Figuring a M/H rate of $30 you would be at $1080 for that cleanup based on 12 hours. You might want to either reconsider your pricing or how you do your cleanups. A 1/2 acre lawn with three guys should take NO more than 2 hours.

32vld
05-08-2012, 10:46 PM
How big is your trailer?

How are you picking up leaves?

Got to find away to get clean up from 1.5 days down to 1 day.

Lawn132012
05-09-2012, 01:56 PM
You need to mulch those leaves. Even a leaf blower / spreader is cheap enough to get one. If you were raking the leaves in a pile and then had one guy mulching them it still not take that long to do that entire proprty. I remember my father and I several years ago do a job (I was mid 20's and my father in early 60's and we did a property where they had a three foot wide flower bed around entire house along with a completely fenced year which also had 2-3 feet of flower beds around it and we took ONE DAY. 8 hours. Granted nothing to write home about but for two people and no real MODERN equipment except for a rake and a hand held blower / mulcher I think we did pretty good comparing to what you had 3 guys doing.
How hard are they working would be my question.

Even back then we got $400 for the yard. We were far from a real LCO company at that time. People asked us to start one because we did what we said we would do and we showed up to complete the work on time.

Darryl G
05-24-2012, 09:48 AM
Wow...3 guys and a day and a half for one 1/2 acre property. What are you doing, picking the leaves up one by one by hand? I have a leave loader but don't use it anymore. I find it more efficient to grind the leaves up and bag them.

roberthathaway7
05-26-2012, 12:46 AM
250/(three guys x12 hours)= 6.94/hr. Then there's gas and equipment expense... I'd say personally you might have cleared two dollars an hour, that is if you payed your men their 6.94 divvy, and that's if it's straight cash and you all just split it. You need to be charging at least 1 dollar per mile there and back for hauling a trailer full of anything, plus charging for the hours driving and unloading. 250 may not be bad if you widdle the process down. Look for efficiency. Just to get the ball rolling for you, explain to us exactly what the job was like, what all tools, equipment and methods you used, then let us know what all you have at your disposal to use, and we can discuss a plan on how to become more efficient and effective. I'm looking forward to hearing back, I'd really like to help you out. All you need is an ear from some experienced folk and this is the right place to be

kendavisbiz
05-27-2012, 09:43 PM
Last Year Brand New to the business I charged $250 for a 1/2 acre of
fall cleanup. There was about 8 trailer loads of leaves to haul away.
Dump fee now (was free last year) is now $15 each load. How much should I really be charging for fall cleanup on a 1/2 acre property. Last year with 3 guys
on the 1/2 acre property it took a day and a half to fully cleanup.

your selling time....we charge $50 per man hour plus the cost of hauling debris.3 men 150 per hour. charge for all time including dump time plus fees. if they dont take your set rates move on. you dont want to fail and u will if you dont sell time at a set rate.

kendavisbiz
05-27-2012, 09:56 PM
Figuring a M/H rate of $30 you would be at $1080 for that cleanup based on 12 hours. You might want to either reconsider your pricing or how you do your cleanups. A 1/2 acre lawn with three guys should take NO more than 2 hours.

u cant say how long without seeing the job

Get Some...
05-27-2012, 11:08 PM
At least $20.00..maybe more..

Darryl G
05-27-2012, 11:15 PM
I don't think I've ever had a 1/2 acre leaf cleanup that's taken more than 6 hours...sure it's possible but I think that's a pretty good figure.

My cleanup rate is $60/hr and I'm worth every penny of that...something about fall leaf cleanups....I work with a real sense of urgency...pretty much double-timing it the whole time.

kendavisbiz
05-27-2012, 11:22 PM
Do you have a team
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Darryl G
05-27-2012, 11:31 PM
Me...I'm solo in the fall. My rate includes me, my Lazer and bagger, dump trailer (not dump fees) big backpack blower and 10hp wheel blower if needed along with barrels, rakes, tarps and all that stuff. If I'm running the leaf loader, which I haven't in years, it's $75/hr.

kendavisbiz
05-28-2012, 12:47 AM
Yea.ive been at it 24 years. Spray services n all. We run eight men. Big cleanups r a bear. We do about 75k in fall cleanups. I like a big team on cleanups cuz they r ass kickin.. Nice talkin n good luck
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Orrdc
05-28-2012, 05:53 PM
Does anyone just put on the G6 blades and go to town?

Darryl G
05-28-2012, 06:44 PM
I put standard Gators on in the fall and grind most of the first leaves down. After they start to get heavy I either blow them off to the woods or grind them up with the mower and bag them. I haul my Lazer with rear bagger in the dump trailer and can usually fit a whole days worth of ground up leaves in the front with the mower in the back. So yeah I mulch, but only to a degree. I keep cutting every 2 to 3 weeks in the fall, so each property usually gets 2 to 3 visits. After October 15th I go from flat rate mowing to straight hourly on all of my accounts with a 1 hour minimum, but I will wave the minimum and charge the relgular price if the cleanup was quick and routine....plus hauling/disposal of course.

Orrdc
05-28-2012, 10:20 PM
I guess a lot of it is going to be trial by fire for me to see what I can and cant do. Thanks for the reply

TurfsUpLawns
05-29-2012, 09:56 PM
Does anyone just put on the G6 blades and go to town?
gator blades go on when the leaves start falling.

chris brauch
05-31-2012, 08:53 PM
what is this M/H rate everyone is talking about? i want to know more about equating prices for my business. I am just starting out

jrs.landscaping
05-31-2012, 09:11 PM
what is this M/H rate everyone is talking about? i want to know more about equating prices for my business. I am just starting out

M/H = Man hours. What rate you get per man hour for a service.

C Jovingo Landscaping
05-31-2012, 09:29 PM
what is this M/H rate everyone is talking about? i want to know more about equating prices for my business. I am just starting out

M/H rate is man hour rate. U set a rate per hour & that's what u charge per man hour. If u pay help $10hr u don't use that rate in ur estimate. Say ur M/H rate is $50 & u estimate a job is gonna take 16 hrs u charge 16hrs X $50=$800. U can do it urself in 2 days or u & 1 helper at $10hr do it in one 8hr day. Your help makes $80 for the day & u make $720 ($90/hour) cuz u have the expenses of running a company
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kendavisbiz
02-07-2013, 04:28 PM
Try an hourly rate plus expansés..How much r u Worth....If u bill 35 hrs a week At $50 an hour u make $1750..Remeber your business has expenses so plan on a Third of That Should be set aside to run your business.Sell Time always
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