PDA

View Full Version : St. Augustine, edging and cutting it high


williams lcm
05-20-2012, 09:34 AM
I have been cutting my St. Augustine at a healthy 4.5 inches. I have to put a brand new edger blade on and feather the edger up and down to cut a clean edge. It looks like a thick carpet and when I blow out the edge I make sure it is a nice deep groove. It makes the grass look so deep and thick from the roadway. I think next week I might try cutting it a little higher. Maybe 4 3/4 or 5 inches. Or even cut it in transport mode. It gives it a unique look and all the neighbors want to know how to get that look. I can get some stripes out of it. Anyone want to share some pictures of your St.augustine lawns cut 4.5 or higher? I know some people think it is just crazy to cut it that high but it give a different looking lawn than cutting 4 inches or below. Please share your pictures. Thanks

Duekster
05-20-2012, 10:26 AM
I think it looks good here too but most people want it around 3.5

Florida Gardener
05-20-2012, 10:39 AM
Depends on cultivar. Floratam needs to be cut high, but I don't think I've ever cut it at 5". Seville can get cut shorter and looks great that way. The thing I don't like about floratam is it never gets thick enough to choke out weeds so cutting high is a must. Seville on the other hand gets nice and tight.
Posted via Mobile Device

Duekster
05-20-2012, 10:45 AM
Our turf Guru in Texas recommends 2~3 inches in full sun and 3~4 in shade. We typically mow at 3" every 7 days.

Florida Gardener
05-20-2012, 12:57 PM
Our turf Guru in Texas recommends 2~3 inches in full sun and 3~4 in shade. We typically mow at 3" every 7 days.

3" is way too short for floratam. That needs to be cut at 4" minimum. Seville can be cut at 3", but I like 3.25"
Posted via Mobile Device

Duekster
05-20-2012, 01:05 PM
3" is way too short for floratam. That needs to be cut at 4" minimum. Seville can be cut at 3", but I like 3.25"
Posted via Mobile Device


I am ignorant about St Augustine varities. Over the years there have been many installed. Palmetto seems to be one of the popular ones from the farms these days.

Florida Gardener
05-20-2012, 01:27 PM
I am ignorant about St Augustine varities. Over the years there have been many installed. Palmetto seems to be one of the popular ones from the farms these days.

It's the most common turf in Florida. It's not my fave tho
Posted via Mobile Device

Duekster
05-20-2012, 01:36 PM
It's the most common turf in Florida. It's not my fave tho
Posted via Mobile Device

It is the second most common here behind bermuda.

mjlcare2
05-20-2012, 02:02 PM
I have been cutting my St. Augustine at a healthy 4.5 inches. I have to put a brand new edger blade on and feather the edger up and down to cut a clean edge. It looks like a thick carpet and when I blow out the edge I make sure it is a nice deep groove. It makes the grass look so deep and thick from the roadway. I think next week I might try cutting it a little higher. Maybe 4 3/4 or 5 inches. Or even cut it in transport mode. It gives it a unique look and all the neighbors want to know how to get that look. I can get some stripes out of it. Anyone want to share some pictures of your St.augustine lawns cut 4.5 or higher? I know some people think it is just crazy to cut it that high but it give a different looking lawn than cutting 4 inches or below. Please share your pictures. Thanks

Can you post some pics? We cut Floratam at 3.75-4 .. usually nothing over unless needed.. our yards seem to thrive at that height. As thick and tight as their fert/pest budget will allow.

Patriot Services
05-20-2012, 02:33 PM
4" I don't think any mower is going to stand grass up to cut at transport height. I have a hard enough time convincing people short is bad.:usflag:

Landscape Poet
05-20-2012, 02:33 PM
We NEVER cut below 4 inches on St. Augustine under normal maint. conditions. The reason is simple, you can figure as a rule of thumb that every 1/4 of inch you can give it on top growth can equate to 1/2 inch root growth possibility. The turf does not seem to use its resources to struggle to put on that growth again and therefor IMHO seem to retain a deeper green than a lawn facing similar conditons being cut shorter. This all my not be accurate in terms of color retention etc but it sure seems to be the case in neighborhoods were neighbors share the same fert company and have dwellings face the same exposure yet our lawns appear deeper green than the homeowners who cut there own lawn (of course at lower heights with residential push mowers).
Currently we are mowing most of the healthy thick looking lawns at 4 3/4 and some at 5. The highest the mowers will go without being in transport mode is 5 1/4 and we were mowing many at that height last year in August as I recall when the heat was on. If you are doing the best you can to assist your pest control company you are or should be cutting high as possible to follow the "1/3 rule" as closely as possible. This is known to also help lower the chance of the lawn becoming too thatchy. I know it is never possible to follow it 100% but generally speaking if you are cutting at 4.75 or higher during the hot rainy season...you are cutting the least of the leaf structure off because you know darn well in the heat of the season if you come in and are mowing at 4 inches or lower you are just saying the hell with that rule because the rapid growth rate during that period of time.

We have no issue with Palmetto or Seville being cut at this height either and looking good. Especially Seville as unless installed incorrectly (in full sun) then you are most likely using it on a partially shaded or shaded lawn and leaving it long of course allows for more of the leave structure for root depth as well as photosynthesis. For those of you planting Seville in full sun you had better be ready to have a extra spongy lawn in a couple of years especially if the home owner is a active waterier and also it seems to be much more spongy in full sun if the fert company is using a quick release fertilizer.

In many lawns that have patchy growth patterns cutting tall allows all the turf to catch up and eventually a lawn that once looked patchy because of irregular growth now look like carpet.

My only reservation about cutting this tall during rainy season is if the lawn has a history of severe GLS fungus. A good sections of lawns will start showing signs of this disease during the rainy season and I have never gotten a confirmed answer from anyone as if cutting too high during this period may lend conditions that favor this disease as by cutting this high you are also potentially limiting air movement through the leave structure. I would appreciate hearing from any PCO that would want to give their thoughts on this possiblity.

unkownfl
05-20-2012, 09:59 PM
I cut about 4 inches unless it's soft soil. I don't cut much higher than that maybe 4.5 inches. This is measured on concrete to blades cutting face. On the GLS I will usually make passes to blow all the clippings onto the sidewalk and then rake it into a bag and compose it at home.
William how wide is your mower? If you have a wider mower you can usually get a nicer edge because the tires don't flatten out the grass edges.

Landscape Poet
05-20-2012, 10:15 PM
I know some people think it is just crazy to cut it that high but it give a different looking lawn than cutting 4 inches or below. Please share your pictures. Thanks

William here is the only picture I have on the PC that I KNOW for sure was cut at 5 inches. Like I said we are currently cutting many at 4.75 and I will snap a few shots for you this week and post on here.

jvanvliet
05-21-2012, 06:56 AM
Mike, how does it look after 6 days?

We cut @ 4" year round. I suspect cutting much higher will trap excesive moisture and impede air flow creating excellent conditions for fungi.

Landscape Poet
05-21-2012, 07:56 PM
Mike, how does it look after 6 days?

We cut @ 4" year round. I suspect cutting much higher will trap excesive moisture and impede air flow creating excellent conditions for fungi.

Generally it looks decent most of the year even at these heights really no different than the difference than you would notice if you cut at 4 inches. I will post some before photos too for you jvan to see what the properties look like when we arrive.

Tri-City Outdoors
05-21-2012, 08:50 PM
We generally cut higher than most We never cut SA lower than 4" most of the year we cut at 4.5". As the season and rain progresses we will cut up 5.25". The highest our mower will cut.

Landscape Poet
05-21-2012, 09:15 PM
We generally cut higher than most We never cut SA lower than 4" most of the year we cut at 4.5". As the season and rain progresses we will cut up 5.25". The highest our mower will cut.

Would you say your lawns experience any more issues with GLS than other lawns.

Are you using Hustlers since you are cutting at 5.25?

joel29m
05-21-2012, 09:49 PM
Spring, 2.0 2.5-2.75, summer 3.0, 3.5 and 3.75. Customers down here rather yards low, I explained so many times, now I'm like eff it, cut it low till its white lol. But seriously they like st Aug low by it growing so fast.
Posted via Mobile Device

rob7233
05-21-2012, 10:56 PM
3" is way too short for floratam. That needs to be cut at 4" minimum. Seville can be cut at 3", but I like 3.25"
Posted via Mobile Device

I agree. Remember the growing points with Floratam are above grade and not below.

jvanvliet
05-22-2012, 07:29 AM
Spring, 2.0 2.5-2.75, summer 3.0, 3.5 and 3.75. Customers down here rather yards low, I explained so many times, now I'm like eff it, cut it low till its white lol. But seriously they like st Aug low by it growing so fast.
Posted via Mobile Device

For St. Augustine? That sounds way low even for the dwarf cultivars.

How's your cinch bug problem out there?

Landscape Poet
05-22-2012, 06:38 PM
William and Jvan - here are a couple of photos from today I took some when I remembered but am having trouble getting some to upload.

Before

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/460061_468955239786034_100000146856528_1979200_1785139078_o.jpg

After

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/464085_468956093119282_100000146856528_1979202_1033934763_o.jpg

Before

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/468320_468958789785679_100000146856528_1979218_2015361253_o.jpg

After

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/476127_468956639785894_100000146856528_1979206_1739111803_o.jpg

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/465609_468958173119074_100000146856528_1979217_749107855_o.jpg

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/457435_468974653117426_100000146856528_1979245_290871902_o.jpg

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/461336_468981923116699_100000146856528_1979258_1826435613_o.jpg

In Progress
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/475244_468957489785809_100000146856528_1979211_2136610862_o.jpg

Before ( one swipe done)

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/470935_468975246450700_100000146856528_1979247_747676047_o.jpg

Density of turf - also note the blades have clean cuts and not rips.

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/462690_468977769783781_100000146856528_1979251_252525678_o.jpg


The rest simply will not upload ....will get more tomorrow

joel29m
05-22-2012, 08:08 PM
For St. Augustine? That sounds way low even for the dwarf cultivars.

How's your cinch bug problem out there? well down here is how they like it, you know there's more than one type of st Aug and there is a few yards I cut that has the type that I can't cut no lower than 3.5. the bug problem isn't as bad to me, I'm used to it I guess. In my old house I sold it had st Aug that looked better at a cut height of 3 in the spring and the summer 3.5, the neighbor across the street is cut at 3.5 in spring and 4 in summer.
Posted via Mobile Device

Landscape Poet
05-22-2012, 08:15 PM
well down here is how they like it,
Posted via Mobile Device Remember you are in the Florida forum now and down here is really up there! Up there or not that is not a suggested cutting height for most St. Augustine cultivators unless you are mowing a lot of dwarf varieties such as Seville etc.

Here is something you maybe can share with your customers when you suggest a higher cut? http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/lh028

Patriot Services
05-22-2012, 08:25 PM
Saw a neighbor do a first cut on his freshly resodded Floratam. Yep 2.5 inches with a dull blade. Went from vibrant green to varying shades of yellow/green with a few scalps thrown in for good measure. Then he started his irrigation. They never learn.
Posted via Mobile Device

Florida Gardener
05-22-2012, 08:36 PM
Saw a neighbor do a first cut on his freshly resodded Floratam. Yep 2.5 inches with a dull blade. Went from vibrant green to varying shades of yellow/green with a few scalps thrown in for good measure. Then he started his irrigation. They never learn.
Posted via Mobile Device
I never got that with homeowners that do their own lawns(watering after they cut it).
Posted via Mobile Device

joel29m
05-22-2012, 08:36 PM
Remember you are in the Florida forum now and down here is really up there! Up there or not that is not a suggested cutting height for most St. Augustine cultivators unless you are mowing a lot of dwarf varieties such as Seville etc.

Here is something you maybe can share with your customers when you suggest a higher cut? http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/lh028 my bad I didn't know It was a Florida forum can't tell from my phone. to be honest, I tried to explain it once to the few that rather it low but hey its their lawn, and that is a good link, thanks for the info.
Posted via Mobile Device

Patriot Services
05-22-2012, 08:45 PM
my bad I didn't know It was a Florida forum can't tell from my phone. to be honest, I tried to explain it once to the few that rather it low but hey its their lawn, and that is a good link, thanks for the info.
Posted via Mobile Device

Look at the banner at very top of this page. Tells you what forum your in. All are welcome with relevant info to share. You won't find any stripe threads in here.
Posted via Mobile Device

Patriot Services
05-22-2012, 08:47 PM
I never got that with homeowners that do their own lawns(watering after they cut it).
Posted via Mobile Device

This was at 1pm today too. Full hot sun. I'm sure he will blame the sod guy.
Posted via Mobile Device

Landscape Poet
05-22-2012, 08:49 PM
. All are welcome with relevant info to share. You won't find any stripe threads in here.
Posted via Mobile Device

For sure all are welcome and he will most likely find following our threads more useful in his work than the blue grass monkeys with the stripe threads. Beside we are a small group here and for some strange reason others do not seem to like to play with us here! :rolleyes:

Duekster
05-22-2012, 08:51 PM
I live in Texas and we have STA too so I like to listen for expert advice from FL. Still waiting. :laugh:

J/K But honestly you guys could grow twiggs into trees.

joel29m
05-22-2012, 08:53 PM
Look at the banner at very top of this page. Tells you what forum your in. All are welcome with relevant info to share. You won't find any stripe threads in here.
Posted via Mobile Device hell I never saw a stripe in a yard of louisiana unless its the tracks from the ztr!!!
Posted via Mobile Device

Patriot Services
05-22-2012, 08:54 PM
I live in Texas and we have STA too so I like to listen for expert advice from FL. Still waiting. :laugh:

J/K But honestly you guys could grow twiggs into trees.

Thanks. I think.
Posted via Mobile Device

joel29m
05-22-2012, 08:55 PM
For sure all are welcome and he will most likely find following our threads more useful in his work than the blue grass monkeys with the stripe threads. Beside we are a small group here and for some strange reason others do not seem to like to play with us here! :rolleyes: our LA forum is the same, don't feel bad....
Posted via Mobile Device

Landscape Poet
05-22-2012, 09:40 PM
But honestly you guys could grow twiggs into trees.

And Here I thought EVERYTHING grew bigger in Texas?

Duekster
05-22-2012, 09:50 PM
And Here I thought EVERYTHING grew bigger in Texas?

I hear the same thing and often very true.

williams lcm
05-23-2012, 04:27 PM
Thanks for the pictures. Those lawns look great

Landscape Poet
05-23-2012, 07:00 PM
Thanks for the pictures. Those lawns look great

Thank you and here are some more from today again I am having a problem getting some to load but I hope to get as many up as I can for you.

All of these lawns are currently being cut at 5 inches


http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash2/156269_469710173043874_100000146856528_1982115_1693253187_n.jpg

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash2/150727_469711026377122_100000146856528_1982121_210284082_n.jpg

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/292643_469711616377063_100000146856528_1982128_1404691326_n.jpg

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/562274_469712119710346_100000146856528_1982135_957236568_n.jpg

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/550604_469712529710305_100000146856528_1982138_1208309585_n.jpg

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/539890_469712859710272_100000146856528_1982139_837793856_n.jpg

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/292653_469713186376906_100000146856528_1982141_1706093121_n.jpg

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/579555_469721166376108_100000146856528_1982258_1163223879_n.jpg

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/149369_469723039709254_100000146856528_1982260_148395780_n.jpg

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/539905_469723409709217_100000146856528_1982261_1752752327_n.jpg

This is what it looks like upon our arrival.

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/521533_469723703042521_100000146856528_1982262_2029627984_n.jpg

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/562585_469724016375823_100000146856528_1982264_1681051374_n.jpg

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/547646_469724383042453_100000146856528_1982265_275923185_n.jpg

Again another one I think that is already been shown upon our arrival.

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/317978_469724619709096_100000146856528_1982266_1940960573_n.jpg

and after
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/149369_469723039709254_100000146856528_1982260_148395780_n.jpg


there might be more to follow if I can get them to load.

Duekster
05-23-2012, 07:58 PM
I was told we mow over 5" too so what do I know.

CTPTURF
05-23-2012, 09:21 PM
I only do chemical apps and its a constant battle to persuade homeowners to raise their mowing decks or to get them to tell their maintenance company to raise their decks. I have had to take a hard line approach on mowing heights and irrigation/cultural practices. Half of my leave behind paperwork has homeowner responsibilities that puts any failure on their part squarely in their lap.

One of the things that bothers me the most( and does the most damage), is using the mower as a leaf vacuum/shredder in the fall. The grass slows down in growth so the homeowner or landscaper lowers the deck a little bit every two weeks to suck up the leaves or just run the mower over it so the landscaper can bill the homeowner for a cut. Then the frost comes, turns it brown at 1.5-2 inches , then a hard freeze kills large patches. Come spring, the homeowner is busting my chops, "Why is my lawn dead?". Then I refer back to the paperwork ive been leaving after each application. What's amazing is some people go through this every year. The sod installers love them!

Todd
Posted via Mobile Device

mjlcare2
05-23-2012, 10:18 PM
And Here I thought EVERYTHING grew bigger in Texas?

Yards look good.. I deff couldn't get away with that on many of my yards, uneducated herd of customers that don't want to listen to the advice of the "pro's" .. Like I was saying. I have the guys run 4" on most st. aug. some down to 3.75 .. another problem is mixed yards, st aug and bahia/bermuda mix, never looks right above 4" so the St. aug. gets cut short the match the rest. O well.. until they care, I will only care so much. If they want to go on the fert and pest program, usually no problems at those heights..

I saw a fence in one of the pics, whats the smallest mower you have/ or whats the smallest gate you have to go thru?

Florida Gardener
05-23-2012, 11:01 PM
Yards look good.. I deff couldn't get away with that on many of my yards, uneducated herd of customers that don't want to listen to the advice of the "pro's" .. Like I was saying. I have the guys run 4" on most st. aug. some down to 3.75 .. another problem is mixed yards, st aug and bahia/bermuda mix, never looks right above 4" so the St. aug. gets cut short the match the rest. O well.. until they care, I will only care so much. If they want to go on the fert and pest program, usually no problems at those heights..

I saw a fence in one of the pics, whats the smallest mower you have/ or whats the smallest gate you have to go thru?

Solid looking turf...I've never had a problem with a customer questioning my HOC. When they see the result of a highly mowed Floratam lawn, well, res ipsa loquiter(sp?).

mjlcare2
05-23-2012, 11:27 PM
Solid looking turf...I've never had a problem with a customer questioning my HOC. When they see the result of a highly mowed Floratam lawn, well, res ipsa loquiter(sp?).

It's not the homeowner questioning the HOC, its their inability to care about their yard to stick to a proper watering/ fert/pest control schedule that the yards are only as top notch as I can make them. I can't mow at 4" plus because the turf will not allow for it and maintain a good look. If I ran over a couple of them at 4" it wouldn't look like we mowed at all and obviously the "newer" customers will question the service as they didn't see my guys there in person. I've never been questioned other than by the cust.'s who do care, asking us to not "mow it to the ground" as the last lawn boy did.

Florida Gardener
05-23-2012, 11:32 PM
It's not the homeowner questioning the HOC, its their inability to care about their yard to stick to a proper watering/ fert/pest control schedule that the yards are only as top notch as I can make them. I can't mow at 4" plus because the turf will not allow for it and maintain a good look. If I ran over a couple of them at 4" it wouldn't look like we mowed at all and obviously the "newer" customers will question the service as they didn't see my guys there in person. I've never been questioned other than by the cust.'s who do care, asking us to not "mow it to the ground" as the last lawn boy did.

sorry, my post was for mike i accidentally quoted your post....i hear ya man...some people are just well....you cant fix stupid.

mjlcare2
05-24-2012, 11:26 AM
http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/lh028

here is U of F's recommendation on mowing height.. they recommend 2.5-4" on St. Aug, ONLY dwarf varieties at 2.5 all others 3.5-4'

Landscape Poet
05-24-2012, 04:28 PM
I saw a fence in one of the pics, whats the smallest mower you have/ or whats the smallest gate you have to go thru?

The fence you are referring to actually allows me to get through with the 48 inch Hustler which is the largest of the two mowers I carry. The 36 inch Mini Z is my smallest and there are not too many gates out there that it can not fit through. There is one lawn that we have that the opening is exactly big enough for the Mini Z to get through....but we have to remove the wooden door in order to do so....which sucks but the guy is a decent little customer paying a premium for mow and go service essentially so I have kept him.

The little mini Z has been a good little money producer for me as on the smaller lawns which do not allow a 48 through the fence I let the customer know that I have a machine that will fit through but charge a small premium because I have to unload another mower. Many customers have not accepted by proposal at first because I demand more but many times after they have called back I ask why they choose us and the answer has been that no one had a machine that would fit back there. This is when the noobies on here ask what Z should be there first I always answer a 36 inch or smaller as when you are first starting out you have to be able to take on every client, you can not afford to turn customers away because you do not have the correct equipment. Sure it may take a little longer to mow the lawn, but when you are starting out you are not working on a full schedule so why not take the time.

The 36 inch also allows me to not create ruts from where in tear on lawns where changing patterns is not always truly possible in some spots. Some times I mow with the 48 and sometimes with the 36 allowing for the ruts to not form as much in those areas.

Tri-City Outdoors
05-26-2012, 05:35 PM
We have always cut on the high side we feel over time all of the grass will end up at the final cut height. we measure are cut height from the shop floor to the mower blade. We find with z-turn the height number dose not always equal the cut height. example 4" could be 3.75" but the 4.5" setting may be accurate. Also cut height also can be changed by the blade or tire air pressure. I feel the wavy mulching blades lower the cut height a 1/4". We will air down our tires when we mow retention ponds and large fields. A little trick for the Bahia seed pods is to lower the blade inside the mower deck.
Cutting turf high has generated a lot of business. We also try to do as little weed whacking as possible. We edge the hell out of everything. We feel our good lawns are very healthy because of the high cutting. We do not have any lawns that are all dwarf S.A. However some have dwarfs mixed in and we mow the same height.

jvanvliet
06-13-2012, 07:29 AM
See you are cross cutting Mike, good for you!

We cut @ 4". Recently we have raised our decks to 4.25" and in some cases 4.5 to allow for the mowers sinking into the wet ground. We don't have any Bermuda, Zoyesa, Bahia or other cheap inferior Northern fescues and Blue grasses ( :p ) to cut, and I'm grateful.

Still not so sure about 5" though, the grass looks a little shaggy to me, but it could be poor picture resolution.

jvanvliet
06-13-2012, 07:55 AM
We have always cut on the high side we feel over time all of the grass will end up at the final cut height. we measure are cut height from the shop floor to the mower blade. We find with z-turn the height number dose not always equal the cut height. example 4" could be 3.75" but the 4.5" setting may be accurate. Also cut height also can be changed by the blade or tire air pressure. I feel the wavy mulching blades lower the cut height a 1/4". We will air down our tires when we mow retention ponds and large fields. A little trick for the Bahia seed pods is to lower the blade inside the mower deck.
Cutting turf high has generated a lot of business. We also try to do as little weed whacking as possible. We edge the hell out of everything. We feel our good lawns are very healthy because of the high cutting. We do not have any lawns that are all dwarf S.A. However some have dwarfs mixed in and we mow the same height.

Our 52" mulching decks (Exmark) measure to 4" when set @3.75... go figure :dizzy:; one of the 60" decks measures to 4" when set to 4.25" the other 4"= 4".

The only other variable is the tire pressure, we maintain it at about 13 lbs. The Metro decks are fixed @ 4" with 15 lbs in the tires.

I hate messing with tire pressure in the field. Before I do that, I'd rather raise the deck. We only carry 5 glns of air on a truck.

Landscape Poet
06-13-2012, 07:33 PM
See you are cross cutting Mike, good for you!

We cut @ 4". Recently we have raised our decks to 4.25" and in some cases 4.5 to allow for the mowers sinking into the wet ground. We don't have any Bermuda, Zoyesa, Bahia or other cheap inferior Northern fescues and Blue grasses ( :p ) to cut, and I'm grateful.

Still not so sure about 5" though, the grass looks a little shaggy to me, but it could be poor picture resolution.

I cross cut as much as possible to avoid any ruts and honestly do my best to ensure that they do not occur. Some properties have areas where there is simply not a option to avoid running over the same area week after week and it is frustrating to say the least but I have learned to accept it.

5 inch is not that much over 4.5 - you will not notice the difference at first I would guess except that you might have some peaks and vally's in the turf where some leaves have not caught up. They will though so do though so just be patient. IMHO I think allowing it get this high allows for the leaf/stolon to grow up and lay over and keep running, creating a denser turf in the long run.

This picture was already in this thread ( and yes I am sure the resolution does not do justice as they are from the camera on my phone) but look at the density on this lawn...the Home Owner is the HOA president and hired us because I promised I would never cut it below 5 inches, a request that he had put in a number times with the previous LCO and he simply would not comply, we have had this lawn a little over a year now and this is Floritam, tell me if you think this looks shaggy for Floritam.

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/462690_468977769783781_100000146856528_1979251_252525678_o.jpg

Burnie
06-13-2012, 08:53 PM
http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/lh028

here is U of F's recommendation on mowing height.. they recommend 2.5-4" on St. Aug, ONLY dwarf varieties at 2.5 all others 3.5-4'

This is printed on the back of all my business cards

From the University of Florida Website

Mowing: http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/lh028

Irrigation: http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/lh025
http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/ep054
http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/lh026


That way I can SHOW customers where the information comes from on Mowing Height and Irrigation. They still don't seem to listen. :cry:

Day off?
06-13-2012, 11:51 PM
I cut St. Augustine at 5" for most of the year. Transport height when it's hot and dry in the spring. 4.5" in shaded areas if wet. 3.5"- 4" for Bahia and Bermuda.

jvanvliet
06-14-2012, 06:26 AM
tell me if you think this looks shaggy for Floritam.

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/462690_468977769783781_100000146856528_1979251_252525678_o.jpg

Not at all, looks healthy.