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Wet_Boots
05-20-2012, 09:02 PM
Old-time popup spray body machined from brass, no castings. The green rubber top was a selling point. They used coarse-thread nozzles, like Buckner. I thought the 3/4-inch male thrads on the body were cool, but they were almost never used.

http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/1810/nelsongreenshieldbox.jpg
http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/6864/nelsongreenshieldside.jpg
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/4545/nelsongreenshieldbottom.jpg
http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/503/nelsongreenshieldtop.jpg

FIMCO-MEISTER
05-20-2012, 11:49 PM
Cool boots. One I never came across. I'll send that pic to Henry. Reminds me of the Goodyear popups.

Wet_Boots
05-21-2012, 08:36 AM
there are some other heads out there with the green rubber ring, with the name Silver Rain on the ring

FIMCO-MEISTER
05-21-2012, 09:32 AM
I notice it has the double threads. 3/4"F and 1/2"M. Seems there was a pl popup that did that but in 3/4"M and 1/2"M. I think it was the hydrorain. I know the maxi paw does it as well.

Wet_Boots
05-21-2012, 09:48 AM
There was a truly weird sort of sprinkler head with that ring. No popup, and no nozzle. The central area was a dome of brass, with tiny holes drilled in it, to throw water upward, to fall in a circular pattern. In still air, it actually worked, more or less. I'm thinking that particular spray head is where the Silver Rain name came from.

xnelson salesman
05-23-2012, 05:08 PM
I was doing a google search for these sprinklers to see what their watering area might be and I was very surprised to see the photos I had posted on ebay on your site, did you also pick up on the old (new) 6 zone timer I had listed.

Wet_Boots
05-23-2012, 05:56 PM
since Nelson professional turf products show up so rarely on eBay, I archived the images so other people in the trade can see them, especially since very few will have ever seen them at their distributors or in systems they work on.

the most important information about those heads is not what spray distance they have - that depends entirely on what nozzles are used with them - what matters is that they take a "coarse thread" brass nozzle, which is a variety no longer manufactured

depending on eBay fees, there may be more money to be had by auctioning them one at a time, as collectibles - even the box might have collector value

Mike Leary
05-23-2012, 07:36 PM
I archived the images .

Gee, what a suprise! :laugh:

Wet_Boots
05-23-2012, 07:41 PM
With all the lousy auction photos out there, I definitely would want to snag clear shots like these.

Mike Leary
05-23-2012, 07:56 PM
With all the lousy auction photos out there, I definitely would want to snag clear shots like these.

Those were great pics. Are there "buffs" that get together in Lenexa every year, set up tables, drink too much and sell old sprinkler stuff? I wonder what my "Imperial" hat is worth? :dizzy:

FIMCO-MEISTER
05-23-2012, 11:24 PM
I was doing a google search for these sprinklers to see what their watering area might be and I was very surprised to see the photos I had posted on ebay on your site, did you also pick up on the old (new) 6 zone timer I had listed.

What years were you with Nelson and what territory?

xnelson salesman
05-24-2012, 09:54 AM
I was actually with R.L. Gould in St. Paul, MN.. We were wholesale distributors for Husavarna, Jacobsen, Ryan, SmithCo, Nelson, Rain Train, Ames Tools and many other major lines. I called on Park Depts, Golf Courses and commercial a/c's in the 1970's and early 80's, I covered Minnesota West Wisconsin and some Iowa & N & S. Dakota, before that I was doing outside sales for a large John Deere Dealer in Afton, MN.

Wet_Boots
05-24-2012, 10:09 AM
So, are you clearing out some shelves? Old brass stuff always intrigues people in the trade, and Nelson did make some attractive-looking products, before they went modern and plastic.

There is one trade application for these today, and that is as replacements for other brass popup spray bodies that accept coarse-thread nozzles. I snagged a carton of heads on eBay a few years back for replacing the old ones I installed years ago.

sprinklerchris
05-24-2012, 12:34 PM
there are some other heads out there with the green rubber ring, with the name Silver Rain on the ring

Nelson made a surface spray head with interchangeable nozzle with a blue/silver rubber ring called a "silver spray". Popular in the Midwest.

Mike Leary
05-24-2012, 12:37 PM
Nelson made a surface spray head with interchangeable nozzle with a blue/silver rubber ring called a "silver spray". Popular in the Midwest.

Interesting thread, Nelson was not popular in the PNW. Even before the big box days, it was considered a "also ran".

DanaMac
05-24-2012, 12:44 PM
Interesting thread, Nelson was not popular in the PNW. Even before the big box days, it was considered a "also ran".

Same here. I see some occasional rotors, but haven't liked them.
A few years ago I bought a fully stocked work van, and it had 5-6 Nelson valves. I had never seen a Nelson valve here, until this spring. I was finally able to utilize two of them for the solenoids and diaphragms. Really helped out so I didn't need to dig up the entire manifold.

Wet_Boots
05-24-2012, 12:54 PM
That green rubber ring, or one a bit larger, was also used on another Nelson brass rotor head, their final version of the Buckner 1300 'cam drive' sprinkler. It had enough brass to be insanely expensive in today's world, and it was held together by a threaded brass cover ring you needed a special split-ring wrench to remove.

sprinklerchris
05-24-2012, 02:57 PM
I would date the Green Shield branding to the mid 1970's. They also made a brass "bird in a bucket" head that also had the Green Shield name on the lid.

Nelson came out with a plastic impact in a bucket, called the Minirotor in the early 1980's to chase the MiniPAW market.

Many of the Nelson products were handled by small distributors and dealers, including hardware stores.

The Silver Spray was earlier, mid 1960's.

Wet_Boots
05-24-2012, 04:01 PM
Nelson plastic stuff was a little weird at first, because they used a different variety of plastic, that I guess was chosen for being "self-lubricating" and maybe for ease of molding. Definitely not chosen for strength, because their parts were definitely thicker and heavier than what followed later on, with conventional materials.

Wet_Boots
06-24-2012, 08:20 AM
I was actually with R.L. Gould in St. Paul, MN.. We were wholesale distributors for Husavarna, Jacobsen, Ryan, SmithCo, Nelson, Rain Train, Ames Tools and many other major lines. I called on Park Depts, Golf Courses and commercial a/c's in the 1970's and early 80's, I covered Minnesota West Wisconsin and some Iowa & N & S. Dakota, before that I was doing outside sales for a large John Deere Dealer in Afton, MN.I see you listed them singly, and sold one already - good luck with the rest of your sales payup

FIMCO-MEISTER
06-24-2012, 08:56 AM
Link? Thanks boots.
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Wet_Boots
06-24-2012, 09:24 AM
Link? Thanks boots.
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FIMCO-MEISTER
06-24-2012, 10:00 AM
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Wet_Boots
06-24-2012, 10:05 AM
http://badgerbadgerbadger.com/ copy and paste saved the dayShhhhh. We know you get the C&P idea, but we still want to have a bit of fun with the unwary. :dancing:

Kiril
06-24-2012, 12:24 PM
Here you go booty boy, I'll contribute an image to your ripped off image archive. You can pretend it is yours if you want.

Wet_Boots
06-24-2012, 01:11 PM
I had a customer with a few of those. Horrible system to work on, with hydraulic controller and valves, and a medley of ancient rotor heads like a Toro flat-top 602

irrig8r
06-24-2012, 02:37 PM
Brass pop-up heads around here were mostly Buckner or hampion, followed by Rain Bird. Thompsons in pot metal or zinc or whatever in the fixed style were also common. Manual brass valves usually Champion or Gee.
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Wet_Boots
06-25-2012, 08:58 AM
Hmmm, almost half gone, on those shiny Nelson popups :)