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BCS430
05-21-2012, 09:01 PM
I know this has been asked many times but out of all the sites I have searched this seems to be the most knowledgeable when it comes to whether or not I need a CDL.

I've called DMV multiple times and each time I get a different answer! It's ridiculous.

The NJ CLASS A CDL States: Any truck and trailer combination with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds – provided that the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is more than 10,000 pounds.

I have a GMC C5500 with a GVWR of 19500 and a GCWR of 26000. My trailer has a GVWR of 9500. Do I need a CDL? The CGVWR of my truck and trailer exceeds 26001 lbs but b/c my trailer is NOT more than 10K per the Class A CDL, am I EXEMPT from having to get a CDL? Also, I also believe that GCWR is NOT the same as CGVWR, so I should also be CDL exempt on the fact that my GCWR of my truck is 26000.


Secondly, I plan to register the Truck non-commerical and the Trailer commercial. The truck I will use when not pulling the trailer for normal personal use, but I will also use it to pull my trailer which will be set up for commercial as I will have it logo'd etc. The truck will be plain jane. No logos, address, phone number, etc.

Thanks!

93Chevy
05-21-2012, 09:07 PM
If your truck is under CDL and your trailer is less than 10k, you don't need a CDL no matter the GCWR.

You can actually run a 26k truck and a 10k trailer, be at 36k, and not need a CDL.

Dountman
05-21-2012, 09:47 PM
2nd Chevy.

salopez
05-22-2012, 01:11 PM
not true.

the combination of truck and trailer must be 26k or less. so you would need either your class B or class C.

C allows any truck up to 26k plus a 10k trailer
b allows any truck and trailer up to 10k

93Chevy
05-22-2012, 06:38 PM
not true.

the combination of truck and trailer must be 26k or less. so you would need either your class B or class C.

C allows any truck up to 26k plus a 10k trailer
b allows any truck and trailer up to 10k

You'd better read the rules again.

The highlighted red part is true.

Read the rules again...you can be over 26k GCWR if your truck is less than 26k and your trailer is less than `10k.

hosejockey2002
05-23-2012, 12:44 AM
I have a GMC C5500 with a GVWR of 19500 and a GCWR of 26000. My trailer has a GVWR of 9500. Do I need a CDL? The CGVWR of my truck and trailer exceeds 26001 lbs but b/c my trailer is NOT more than 10K per the Class A CDL, am I EXEMPT from having to get a CDL? Also, I also believe that GCWR is NOT the same as CGVWR, so I should also be CDL exempt on the fact that my GCWR of my truck is 26000.

The regs really are not that confusing. Just read what they say. If your solo truck is over 26K you need a Class B. If your truck and trailer combined are over 26K AND your trailer is over 10K, you need a Class A. You can be 34K combined but if NEITHER of the two previous conditions apply, then you don't need a CDL. Your example of a 19K truck and a 9500 lb. trailer is a good example. Your factory rating of 26K combined is just a factory rating and really doesn't have much to do with CDL or not CDL. It does mean though, that if you are loaded to 19K then your truck is only rated to tow 7K.

Other examples-

40K truck and 8K trailer- Class B CDL
9K truck and 14K trailer- no CDL
10K truck and 18K trailer- Class A CDL

This has been hashed out so many times on this forum, and I'm not sure why. The regs are pretty clear, just do the math.:)

Duffster
06-18-2012, 04:35 PM
not true.

the combination of truck and trailer must be 26k or less. so you would need either your class B or class C.

C allows any truck up to 26k plus a 10k trailer
b allows any truck and trailer up to 10k

You contradict yourself here.

The OP falls under class C per your statement.