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cleancutsolutions
05-24-2012, 05:14 PM
We installed a residential 5 zone irrigation system and used a well pump as the water source. The owner has called to see what we can do because his sprayers are staining whatever they come into contact with a rust color.

We ran a 2" mainline and wonedering if anyone makes a good filter that would filter out iron deposits or whatever else may be causing the red rust stain color.

Thanks.

Wet_Boots
05-24-2012, 05:31 PM
test the water for iron content first

Mike Leary
05-24-2012, 06:21 PM
If you've got iron, you prolly have manganese, also. Have them test for that, too; both can play hell.

jvanvliet
05-25-2012, 06:34 AM
Not to mention lime and calcium; you can try a "rust" injection system. I've installed a number of these systems on residential, commercial and municipal properties. Properly maintained & the correct chemical concentrations will go a long way towards eliminating your problems.

Chemical injection systems are common here for rust & mineral control.

SEMINOL PRODUCTS (http://www.seminoleproducts.org/) is a local manufacturer of rust & mineral inhibitors. We use their products and have had excellent results. They are very helpful, call them for recommendations.

Mike Leary
05-25-2012, 11:04 AM
Chemical injection systems are common here for rust & mineral control.

SEMINOL PRODUCTS (http://www.seminoleproducts.org/) is a local manufacturer of rust & mineral inhibitors. We use their products and have had excellent results. They are very helpful, call them for recommendations.

Their website is useless. How does that work, timed injection?

Stuttering Stan
05-25-2012, 11:26 AM
http://www.ridorust.net/

I install dozens of siphon systems each year. Overall, I think it's the best product on the market. Your local irrigation supplier should carry this.

Mike Leary
05-25-2012, 12:15 PM
http://www.ridorust.net/

I install dozens of siphon systems each year. Overall, I think it's the best product on the market. Your local irrigation supplier should carry this.

So do you have the water tested for each site, or are you familiar enough in your market to know what the dosage/type of problem is?

ArTurf
05-25-2012, 01:24 PM
We installed a residential 5 zone irrigation system and used a well pump as the water source. The owner has called to see what we can do because his sprayers are staining whatever they come into contact with a rust color.

We ran a 2" mainline and wonedering if anyone makes a good filter that would filter out iron deposits or whatever else may be causing the red rust stain color.

Thanks.

What are they staining. House, sidewalk, driveway?

Stuttering Stan
05-25-2012, 03:24 PM
So do you have the water tested for each site, or are you familiar enough in your market to know what the dosage/type of problem is?

Each well gets tested. Iron levels vary from off the chart to miniscule amounts. I test wells every 2 years to to determine if levels have changed from the original sample. Also, I leave the client with a case of formula and write instructions on the container (and tell them) as to the mixing ratio.

Mike Leary
05-25-2012, 04:43 PM
Each well gets tested. Iron levels vary from off the chart to miniscule amounts. I test wells every 2 years to to determine if levels have changed from the original sample. Also, I leave the client with a case of formula and write instructions on the container (and tell them) as to the mixing ratio.

Are there spoils that need to go to a sump, or does the "mixture 69" dissolve all the contaminates and shoot it through the system.?

Stuttering Stan
05-25-2012, 05:08 PM
No spoils or dissolving. The formula simply neutralizes the rust color. Iron is still present in the water.

Stuttering Stan
05-25-2012, 05:15 PM
Here a pic of the tank connected to the suction side of a pump. The formula is siphoned into the well water.
http://www.plant-care.com/irrigation-water-treatment.html

jvanvliet
05-25-2012, 05:41 PM
Their website is useless. How does that work, timed injection?

I know the web site is useless, but call them. They have chemicals that will treat both iron and other mineral deposits.

There's two ways we do it; a pump or a siphon system. For larger installations (municipal or commercial centers) the chemicals are injected into the water @ measured quantities via a time activated pump (sort of like a small fountain pump); the chemicals are at much higher concentrations than for residential.

For most residential systems, the one Stuttering Stan posted is common. There are different types of check valves available, we use one with a control valve to help us adjust the quantity of chemical injected into the stream. Also, we don't use a saddle to attach the injector, we'll cut in a T fitting, too many problems with saddles for us.

Water is checked every two years (or more often like following a drought). Concentrations depend on where the wells are located. It is typical for one community to be tapped into one aquifer. We know that in the Village of Golf for example, the wells are 60ft (dirty) and the concentration of dissolved solids are common to all the wells installed at the time of construction.

There's a great deal of debate among the irrigation contractors regarding the use of these systems, bleeding air into the volute is one issue; but well serviced and maintained I haven't experienced any problems in the 12 years we've been installing and servicing them.

Mike Leary
05-25-2012, 05:48 PM
As long as Boots does not jump in, this thread has gotten some professional opinions from two guys I respect. :clapping:

Sprinkus
05-25-2012, 09:26 PM
Here's an interesting LINK (http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Pepare+for+the+New+Order%22&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=rcs).