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capecodlawns
05-29-2012, 04:26 PM
Was checking to see the average price for irrigation in Ma.My customer has 24,000 square foot yard, flat, average quote has 11 zones is around $ 900.00 zone , with all hunter heads , hunter timer and that includes the plumbing and backflow. Do this sound hi?

Mike Leary
05-29-2012, 04:34 PM
Nope. What's the warranty, does that include all adjustments the first season and winterize? Always many questions about the lowballers.

capecodlawns
05-29-2012, 04:38 PM
1 Year warrenty, startup, No winter blowout, I would have to do that.

FIMCO-MEISTER
05-29-2012, 04:50 PM
That sound you heard was texans banging their head on a table while crying. 900/zone? SWEEEET

capecodlawns
05-29-2012, 04:56 PM
That sound you heard was texans banging their head on a table while crying. 900/zone? SWEEEET

Does that seem hi or low??

Mike Leary
05-29-2012, 05:07 PM
Does that seem hi or low??

11 zones: Hunter I-20/ Rainbird 5000 rotors for turf. RB 1800 12" SAM heads for plantings with W*M brass nozzles, Netafim drip for trees. Full lifetime warranty on labor, 5 years on parts, winterize first year n/c. As-built, backflow (tested upon completion), remote pigtail, sch 40 pipe, Irritrol/Weather-Matic controller with weather station,Weather-Matic valves. Contractor will maintain system after warranty. $15,000.00.

capecodlawns
05-29-2012, 05:14 PM
11 zones: Hunter I-20/ Rainbird 5000 rotors, RB 1800 SAM heads with W*M brass nozzles, Netafim drip. Full lifetime warranty on labor, 5 years on parts, winterize first year n/c. As-built, backflow, remote pigtail, sch 40 pipe, Irritrol/Weather-Matic controller,Weather-Matic valves. Contractor will maintain system after warranty. $15,000.00.

Thanks for the info. I am gonna get some more estimates.

Wet_Boots
05-29-2012, 05:19 PM
Sometimes, a better ballpark number comes from knowing the actual property size, and assuming it gets sprinkled from corner to corner.

Mike Leary
05-29-2012, 05:19 PM
Thanks for the info. I am gonna get some more estimates.

Do that, and get "boiler plate" specifications. Who designed the system? How do you know 11 zones will work? :dizzy:

jvanvliet
05-29-2012, 05:31 PM
11 zones: Hunter I-20/ Rainbird 5000 rotors for turf. RB 1800 12" SAM heads for plantings with W*M brass nozzles, Netafim drip for trees. Full lifetime warranty on labor, 5 years on parts, winterize first year n/c. As-built, backflow (tested upon completion), remote pigtail, sch 40 pipe, Irritrol/Weather-Matic controller with weather station,Weather-Matic valves. Contractor will maintain system after warranty. $15,000.00.

Warranty even after he touches the system? Not here... Warranties are null and void should anybody other than me or my assigns touch the system for any reason.

jvanvliet
05-29-2012, 05:32 PM
Sometimes, a better ballpark number comes from knowing the actual property size, and assuming it gets sprinkled from corner to corner.

And the middle too:D

Mike Leary
05-29-2012, 05:56 PM
Warranty even after he touches the system? Not here... Warranties are null and void should anybody other than me or my assigns touch the system for any reason.

I agree, I was talking about fresh systems, and the original contractor, winterize included.

Without A Drought
05-29-2012, 07:56 PM
number of heads is more relevant to me than zone count.

Mike Leary
05-29-2012, 08:04 PM
My tongue was firmly in my cheek, not knowing anything about the site, but if it was a regular residential, and some lowballer figured 9k and 11 zones with the psi/gpm checked, I'd be on the money with my price, 'cause I'd prolly add more zones! :cool2:

FIMCO-MEISTER
05-29-2012, 08:21 PM
Does that seem hi or low??

I'm assuming 1" valves and 12-15gpm. That is a fair price that is hard to get in Texas. Plus we don't pull our pipe so putting a system in is a lot more work. 900 a zone would get you brass nozzles in my book. Imperial controller as well.

Mike Leary
05-29-2012, 08:23 PM
Imperial controller as well.

Whoa! With a clock like that, you're sure you don't want to raise the price? :rolleyes:

CAPT Stream Rotar
05-29-2012, 08:43 PM
I, Living on cape would love to know who was bidding these numbers....

If you are looking for a reasonable bid, proper water management, and a great system send me a private message..

Mike Leary
05-29-2012, 08:59 PM
I, Living on cape would love to know who was bidding these numbers....

If you are looking for a reasonable bid, proper water management, and a great system send me a private message..

Are you licensed? :rolleyes:

CAPT Stream Rotar
05-29-2012, 09:08 PM
to do what?

Wet_Boots
05-29-2012, 09:28 PM
to do what?kill stink bugs

CAPT Stream Rotar
05-29-2012, 09:30 PM
I actually took a pesticide test...

just don't need the license as bad as others.

capecodlawns
05-30-2012, 10:29 AM
Do that, and get "boiler plate" specifications. Who designed the system? How do you know 11 zones will work? :dizzy:

I have had 4 irrigation people out there for estimates. They all come in at 11 zones. Yard is 24,000 of grass area.

Mike Leary
05-30-2012, 12:22 PM
I have had 4 irrigation people out there for estimates. They all come in at 11 zones. Yard is 24,000 of grass area.

What were the price differences?

capecodlawns
05-30-2012, 12:48 PM
What were the price differences?

High side $13500.00 to $8800.00

Mike Leary
05-30-2012, 12:59 PM
High side $13500.00

If you've checked references at least three years old, I'd take the above.
That's right where I'd be (prolly a couple grand higher), using the finest quality materials available.

SoCalLandscapeMgmt
05-30-2012, 12:59 PM
I actually took a pesticide test...

just don't need the license as bad as others.

I took the test and got my QAL.... not as hard a test as you would think it should be given the nature of what a QAL allows you to do.

muddywater
05-30-2012, 10:46 PM
11 zones: Hunter I-20/ Rainbird 5000 rotors for turf. RB 1800 12" SAM heads for plantings with W*M brass nozzles, Netafim drip for trees. Full lifetime warranty on labor, 5 years on parts, winterize first year n/c. As-built, backflow (tested upon completion), remote pigtail, sch 40 pipe, Irritrol/Weather-Matic controller with weather station,Weather-Matic valves. Contractor will maintain system after warranty. $15,000.00.

How long would it take you to install that and what crew size?

muddywater
05-30-2012, 10:50 PM
Was checking to see the average price for irrigation in Ma.My customer has 24,000 square foot yard, flat, average quote has 11 zones is around $ 900.00 zone , with all hunter heads , hunter timer and that includes the plumbing and backflow. Do this sound hi?


How many heads? Pricing by the zone is a little ambiguous to me, because it could be 2-3 head difference per zone x 11 zones.

How long is warranty on the 13,500?

Have you checked their angies list rating? Boy the ugly truth can come out on that site.

txirrigation
05-30-2012, 10:56 PM
Was checking to see the average price for irrigation in Ma.My customer has 24,000 square foot yard, flat, average quote has 11 zones is around $ 900.00 zone , with all hunter heads , hunter timer and that includes the plumbing and backflow. Do this sound hi?

Holy crap. $900 a zone? Do they use gold plated pop-ups? I will install for half that and still have a smile on my face.

country kid
05-30-2012, 10:58 PM
i guess using pvc instead of poly really makes the costs a lot higher

Sprinkus
05-30-2012, 11:31 PM
Seven grand a zone. Includes travel expenses.

Mike Leary
05-31-2012, 09:17 PM
Seven grand a zone. Includes travel expenses.

I'm in at $6999.00 and on the way.

CAPT Stream Rotar
05-31-2012, 09:38 PM
Pike Leary on the prowl.

BCboy
06-01-2012, 04:21 AM
We get around $300-400/zone here in Canada.
At $900/zone I could retire.

Duekster
06-01-2012, 04:44 AM
Whoever started the price per zone thing should be shot. That is like how much for dinner?

If I was a serious homeowner, I would find a trusted designer to design and review product specs with me before I even went out to bid.

Mike Leary
06-01-2012, 12:06 PM
Whoever started the price per zone thing should be shot. That is like how much for dinner?

If I was a serious homeowner, I would find a trusted designer to design and review product specs with me before I even went out to bid.

All true. The "per zone" numbers I used were a result of years of installing. It's better (for me) to first give an educated "ballpark" rather than go through the whole design and review process, only to have the client kack. :dizzy:

Mike Leary
06-01-2012, 12:35 PM
Just so no one gets the wrong idea, my "per zone" price is divided up so it's a percentage of the whole system: the zones themselves are not "$xxxx", they are divided into the mainline, wire, clock, backflow, etc. My parts never varied, the pinheads got the same materials, mostly, as the megas.

Duekster
06-01-2012, 02:07 PM
All true. The "per zone" numbers I used were a result of years of installing. It's better (for me) to first give an educated "ballpark" rather than go through the whole design and review process, only to have the client kack. :dizzy:

Nothing wrong with ball parking someone to get a feel for their budget but I qualify that based on the quality of materials. Builder grade pop-ups vs PRS and MPRs controller quality can have a huge impact on material cost. So can actually running the laterials in H or T configurations versus straight lines. Or how about actually installing some extra stations to account for mircro-climates. Nothing burns me up or even the home owner to over water the shady side of the house in to a mud bog because the station extends out into a full sun exposure.

Mdirrigation
06-01-2012, 10:52 PM
pricing by the zone has worked well for us the past 20 years . I go out on an estimate check the property, supply line , place flags and give an price and contract on the spot . Going under a drive , hand digging , difficult tie ins are extra . 85% of the time my regular price per zone covers the whole system . I have a minimum price of $ XX00 for an install up to 5 zones . A zone is 3 rotors or 5 spray heads , additional heads on a zone is more money , less heads is the same price . My pricing is consistant and logical , since most of my work is referal , they get the same price as their friend that refered us .