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Randy G.
06-09-2012, 03:56 PM
Looks sort of like St augustine to me but, dont really know. It started growing on the drain field mound of my septic system. Its starting to pop up all over the yard in patches. Which is good because everything else is just weeds. This stuff is thick and looks great.

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r248/280ss/grass2.jpg

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r248/280ss/grass1.jpg

Randy G.
06-09-2012, 03:59 PM
Another shot of a singlr stem of it.

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r248/280ss/grass3.jpg

Florida Gardener
06-09-2012, 04:06 PM
Torpedo grass
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Randy G.
06-09-2012, 04:20 PM
Torpedo grass huh. Well, is that a bad thing? Seems to be making a real nice turf to me.

Florida Gardener
06-09-2012, 04:26 PM
Torpedo grass huh. Well, is that a bad thing? Seems to be making a real nice turf to me.

Wellif your looking to fill in areas of an already weedy lawn, I guess not. It's a pita if it gets in st. Augustine or zoysia as far as eradicating it. Having said that, it blends in quite well with empire zoysia and doesn't look that bad in st Augustine. It's not invasive like crabgrass.
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Randy G.
06-09-2012, 04:41 PM
So far its the only thing out in my back yard that even looks like grass. My back yard is about an acre in size. It was woods until about a year ago, cut all the pines off. Took a dozer pushed up all the stumps, the gall berrys and palmettos.

easy-lift guy
06-09-2012, 05:59 PM
Defo torpedo grass and I suspect you will get use to it pretty quick since you will never be able to get rid of it.
easy-lift guy

Randy G.
06-09-2012, 08:55 PM
I dont want to get rid of it. It looks nice. Am I crazy?

easy-lift guy
06-09-2012, 09:10 PM
No, if you happy that is fine by me. It will be there long after you and I are gone. If you ever decide on anything else that will be another story.
easy-lift guy

jvanvliet
06-10-2012, 08:59 AM
I dont want to get rid of it. It looks nice. Am I crazy?

Don't know, have you been smoking it? :cool:

It won't look that nice when it dominates the lawn.

Randy G.
06-10-2012, 09:19 AM
Why wont it? I have been keeping it cut and it looks like a good turf grass. Maybe I am asking the wrong question. Why is it not a good turf grass?

Duekster
06-10-2012, 09:23 AM
Why wont it? I have been keeping it cut and it looks like a good turf grass. Maybe I am asking the wrong question. Why is it not a good turf grass?

I am not sure what it is. Dig some up and let us get a good look at the roots / rhizome.

The leaf stucture looks too tight to me to be torpedo grass but I am not an expert in this area.

Florida Gardener
06-10-2012, 09:27 AM
I am not sure what it is. Dig some up and let us get a good look at the roots / rhizome.

The leaf stucture looks too tight to me to be torpedo grass but I am not an expert in this area.

It is 100% torpedo grass. Randy, if it's filling in areas in your weedy lawn and you are happy with that, that's great. It's a weed that literally grows in water. If you ever decide to put sod in it will be very hard to eradicate it. I would think a few apps of gly mixed with fusilade would help, but don't know if it would come back. Ric would need to chime in on that.
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dtelawn
06-10-2012, 03:34 PM
That is torpedo grass and my back yard of centipede is being destroyed by it. It grows about 5 times as fast as centipede. I have been told to move if I don't want it.

jvanvliet
06-10-2012, 03:43 PM
Why wont it? I have been keeping it cut and it looks like a good turf grass. Maybe I am asking the wrong question. Why is it not a good turf grass?


If you are happy with it, go for it.:cool:

Keith
06-10-2012, 04:21 PM
Is this the same stuff that gets wiry and just tears when you try to cut it when it gets thick and takes over? Or is that something else altogether? The stuff I am talking about grows like crazy once the rain comes and nighttime temps stay up in the 70's. I don't think it would cut clean with scissors. A nastier grassy weed I have never seen. With a mulching kit on it sounds like you are mulching rocks.

Ric
06-10-2012, 04:22 PM
It is 100% torpedo grass. Randy, if it's filling in areas in your weedy lawn and you are happy with that, that's great. It's a weed that literally grows in water. If you ever decide to put sod in it will be very hard to eradicate it. I would think a few apps of gly mixed with fusilade would help, but don't know if it would come back. Ric would need to chime in on that.
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Torpedo grass is an exotic grass from South America. It is a very common weed in Aquatic areas where it grows quite well due to a lot of Mositure. Glyphosate alone with control Torpedo grass.

Torpedo Grass appears to be resistant to insects and fungus. It is also resistant to most but not all Selective Herbicide. It can be kept weed free as a lawn. (BTW I can selectively Kill Torpedo Grass in St Augustine) Torpedo Grass also grows well with little or no fertilizer.

So Why Isn't Torpedo Grass an Ideal Lawn Turf??? Torpedo Grass is extremely Fiberous and does not mulch very well. In the rainy season it will ball up and lay on top of good grass and kill it. Even side discharge leaves piles of Grass. Bag Torpedo Grass and it is as nice a lawn without much care.


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Keith
06-10-2012, 04:48 PM
If this is the stuff I am thinking it is, I rented a house back in the mid-90's that had it in about 200 sq ft section of otherwise nice SA. I mowed the lawn myself and started fertilizing it. The guy who owned the house asked if I ever had some spare sod to go ahead and kill that area and replace it and he would pay me. Instead I bought a bottle of Image and sprayed it. Once did next to nothing. A second dose two weeks later made a significant change. A third spraying two weeks after that finished it off. It never came back while I was living there. When I moved out the owner thanked me for resodding it and tried to pay for the grass. He had lived in the house up until he rented it to me and said it had been there for 5+ years and could never get rid of it.

Maybe this isn't the same thing, but from what Ric describes it sounds like it might be. I run across it from time to time now and no one seems concerned with trying to eradicate it.

AllBrad
06-10-2012, 05:02 PM
Sethoxydim. Make sure torpedo stays clear of plant beds.

Ric
06-10-2012, 05:33 PM
Sethoxydim. Make sure torpedo stays clear of plant beds.

Yep selective control of Torpedo grass is easy in Bermuda and most Cool Season turfs. But Sethoxydim will smoke St Augustine.


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easy-lift guy
06-10-2012, 06:07 PM
If this is the stuff I am thinking it is, I rented a house back in the mid-90's that had it in about 200 sq ft section of otherwise nice SA. I mowed the lawn myself and started fertilizing it. The guy who owned the house asked if I ever had some spare sod to go ahead and kill that area and replace it and he would pay me. Instead I bought a bottle of Image and sprayed it. Once did next to nothing. A second dose two weeks later made a significant change. A third spraying two weeks after that finished it off. It never came back while I was living there. When I moved out the owner thanked me for resodding it and tried to pay for the grass. He had lived in the house up until he rented it to me and said it had been there for 5+ years and could never get rid of it.

Maybe this isn't the same thing, but from what Ric describes it sounds like it might be. I run across it from time to time now and no one seems concerned with trying to eradicate it.

As stated earlier, it is next to impossible to control and impossible to eradicate it completely. You could have been dealing with Pensacola Bahia I the past and that is a really terrible turf to maintain much less be stuck with. I had one account in my life time with that type turf and it was always like cutting burlap cord after every mowing.
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Keith
06-10-2012, 10:43 PM
I am very aware of what bahia, both argentine and pensacola are. This is something I always called wire grass. But in the last three or four years came to believe it was probably torpedo grass. It may not be. But it's not bahia of any kind.