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duckworth
07-10-2012, 12:16 AM
Do all the above always plant tall plants in front of sprays in flower beds .l got 4 12" pop up sprays in all the corners and he plants tall plants in front of 3 of the sprays.he is very experienced gardener but tough to change his mind.anyone else have this problem and how to fix it?

Mike Leary
07-10-2012, 12:41 AM
Do all the above always plant tall plants in front of sprays in flower beds .l got 4 12" pop up sprays in all the corners and he plants tall plants in front of 3 of the sprays.he is very experienced gardener but tough to change his mind.anyone else have this problem and how to fix it?

The only way to beat the lag with LAs/Designers/Gardeners is to design for it. I learned many years ago that they (or the client) thought that changing plant material was no big deal; wrong, screwed us for application! After realizing this, in plantings, they got front-load 1812 heads, risers in the center and rear, all on separate zones. I told my people, "I can handle this area, but if you're going to stick trees in, I need to know."

muddywater
07-10-2012, 01:12 AM
Do all the above always plant tall plants in front of sprays in flower beds .l got 4 12" pop up sprays in all the corners and he plants tall plants in front of 3 of the sprays.he is very experienced gardener but tough to change his mind.anyone else have this problem and how to fix it?

Irrigation needs to be modified to plant material. Maybe the landscape demands taller plantings. Irrigation is designed to keep the desired plant material alive. Plant material is not designed to work around irrigation layout. I am with mike, 4" sprays dont really have any business in a flower bed, i only do 1812s. Its just a few bucks more, and the clients eyes really light up when they see those things pop up.

mitchgo
07-10-2012, 02:42 AM
He said he had 4- 1812's blocked from tall plants

Hedges, bigger bushes I don't have a problem with because I can raise the head into the bush still hidden but pop up enough.

When you start raising heads on a edge ( like a driveway or walkway) due to blocked perennials when the design Was completely fine then this is a landscape issue.

Sorry you can't expect the plants behind them to get watered

Az Gardener
07-10-2012, 02:44 AM
You're right sprinkler heads have no business in the flower beds. I prefer to see bubblers or subsurface drip like .DL 2000 or Netafim. The 1/2" size not the little spaghetti stuff.

And the gardeners off too. Typically you like to do a choir boy design with shorter plants in the front and taller ones to the back or the center.

cjohn2000
07-10-2012, 03:20 AM
I always like it when people use side and corner strips on a 4" in a 4' wide bed. 5' nozzles are my choice for beds usually triangular layout. Not always concerned about 12" popups when I have 5' not trying to water the leaves. 6 inchers at least though 4" popups have no business in a bed.

jvanvliet
07-10-2012, 08:06 AM
Do all the above always plant tall plants in front of sprays in flower beds .l got 4 12" pop up sprays in all the corners and he plants tall plants in front of 3 of the sprays.he is very experienced gardener but tough to change his mind.anyone else have this problem and how to fix it?

Those guys are nimrods... a pro will check the existing irrigation before making landscape changes and advise the owners some sprinkler modifications are required.

1idejim
07-10-2012, 08:12 AM
Those guys are nimrods... a pro will check the existing irrigation before making landscape changes and advise the owners some sprinkler modifications are required.

very well put.
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bcg
07-10-2012, 08:14 AM
Put drip in beds and you won't have this problem.

jvanvliet
07-10-2012, 08:38 AM
Put drip in beds and you won't have this problem.

Until they cut through the line...

bcg
07-10-2012, 09:53 AM
Until they cut through the line...

Easier to fix a drip line than to relocate or change out the heads and then make sure that the backflow protection is still compliant (if you're using AVB or PVB) and you never need to worry about the bed filling in too much.

Drip is the better answer for planting beds, with annuals being the only real exception.

DanaMac
07-10-2012, 10:02 AM
Drip is great in that situation, until everything becomes so overgrown and crowded. Then you have to repair a line in the middle of the bed, you get yelled at for digging up their flowers and trampling their ground cover. For large beds, with a ton of plantings, I prefer heads watering the entire bed, as a maintenance point of view.

duckworth
07-10-2012, 10:39 AM
Isn't common sense to plant smaller on the outside perimeter and bigger plants in the middle? . 20 x30 bed with lawn around all sides of bed

Kiril
07-10-2012, 10:59 AM
Do all the above always plant tall plants in front of sprays in flower beds .l got 4 12" pop up sprays in all the corners and he plants tall plants in front of 3 of the sprays.he is very experienced gardener but tough to change his mind.anyone else have this problem and how to fix it?

SDI in beds ..... problem solved.

Kiril
07-10-2012, 11:01 AM
Until they cut through the line...

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Those guys are nimrods... a pro will check the existing irrigation before making landscape changes and advise the owners some sprinkler modifications are required.

FIMCO-MEISTER
07-10-2012, 11:30 AM
Micro spray is my MO. Lot easier to manage and trouble shoot. Run the blank 1/2" netafim against the borders to keep them out of harms way the 1/4" tube to the sprayers. If a 1/4" tube gets whacked it still waters the bed without screwing up the rest. Regardless bed watering should be done from below not above. Azaleas are the one shrub I added top spray for.

jvanvliet
07-11-2012, 08:22 AM
Actually, I prefer the rainbird 1/4" landscape brown drip line; most irrigators here water over to top