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KrayzKajun
07-10-2012, 07:10 PM
looking for a reb cab long bed 3/4 ton for pulling my open landscape trailer for mowing(instead of always driving my dually w/ enclosed trailer)save on some fuel
and on occassion pull my gooseneck with the tractor/or skidsteer

found these two truck within a few blocks of my house.

truck one:
1996 Ford F250, white, reg cab/long bed
7.3L powerstroke diesel (285,000 miles:dizzy:)
auto tranny, new alternantor, starter
work truck, manual windows locks etc.
truck is in pretty good shape(needs a new tailgate, has some dings/scratches, front bumper is a lil bent) will prolly need tires.

truck two:
1999 Ford f250 XL, white, reg cab/long bed
5.4L V8 (190,000miles:dizzy:)
auto tranny, manual windows/locks
truck is immaculate, not a scratch or dent on it, interior is damn near perfect
brand new tires
both are priced the same $2k

here is a pic of the 96'.

cgaengineer
07-10-2012, 07:41 PM
Tough decision. The gas burner would likely cost you less if you ended up having to replace say...and engine. It's less CI but it's less costly to maintain. The diesel likely tows better but could at this point rip into your wallet...injector pump...engine. Who knows?

I think I'd go with the gasser.
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Deori
07-10-2012, 08:38 PM
I think with those mileages I'd go with the gasser too. Not only will it be cheaper to repair (and significant repairs in the not too distant future are likely in either truck), but a work truck with that kind of mileage in immaculate condition is a big plus in my book. A lot of work trucks are torn to shreds by 200K so one that's clean like that probably wasn't used for too rough of work and was obviously well cared for. Good luck!
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buttaluv
07-10-2012, 08:41 PM
they both could nickel & dime you...gasser would probably be lesser nickels at a time...

KrayzKajun
07-10-2012, 08:54 PM
i went and looked at the 99' again the owner came out and chatted with me. he lives about 1 1/2 from here, said all the miles are highway, truck was strictly used for driving to work, never pulled anything with it. he had a folder in the glove box, with all the reciepts for every service the truck has had since he bought it new in 99. i was shocked. ill try to take a pic of it 2morrow.

Marek
07-10-2012, 09:17 PM
Go with the 96 , that was a good year for the 7.3 , plenty of power and easy to fix

dieselss
07-10-2012, 09:40 PM
Id go with the 99. But sight unsean the records are nice to have and look at....are they rusted anywhere?
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KrayzKajun
07-10-2012, 10:06 PM
Id go with the 99. But sight unsean the records are nice to have and look at....are they rusted anywhere?
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No rust on the 99. the 96 has some in the rear hitch area from launching boats in saltwater. the 96 was used to haul crab traps and pull a boat.


ill run and snap a few pics of the 99 in the morning. my first truck was 99 F150, i pulled all types of trailers with it. had great power and it was just the small 4.6l v8. this 99 f250 has the 5.4l.

dieselss
07-10-2012, 10:11 PM
Ok. Nice engine. Fairly easy to get at and work on. Not super bad on gas...not as good as diesel tho. 99 parts are easy to get and can go all the way to 08.....some. 96 really can't swap out for newer bs parts
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jsslawncare
07-10-2012, 10:27 PM
96 for me.

Junior M
07-12-2012, 12:31 AM
I'd get a diesel, no matter what..

If I were you, I'd be looking for a diesel utility body..

PLS-Tx
07-12-2012, 03:09 PM
Gas, for sure.

KrayzKajun
07-12-2012, 03:24 PM
I've been really looking at the utility body trucks now.
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KrayzKajun
07-12-2012, 08:41 PM
I've been really looking at the utility body trucks now.
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I'm thinking about getting the 96' with the diesel and putting an 8ft utility body on it. Found a utility body for $500 on craigslist, and figure I can prolly get the truck for around $1500. So for $2k I could a pretty good landsacping/irrigation truck.
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lawnhoppers
07-12-2012, 10:46 PM
If it was me I would buy the gas engine.I have a 07 dually duramax,but always seem to be in my 99 2500.I even seem to pull my 27' gooseneck with the 99 way more often than with the newer diesel.

KrayzKajun
07-12-2012, 10:49 PM
Well the gas truck sold. So the search continues. I am going look at an 01' F250 reg cab w/ utility bed, 5.4L V8, 146k miles, for $3100.
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lawnhoppers
07-12-2012, 11:09 PM
If you are set on buying a f250 I would try and find a v10 because it gets the same mileage as 5.4 but with alot more power which will be appreciated if towing heavy loads.I personally have had better luck with Chevrolets in that year range.My 99 with 350 has 285,000 and only thing replaced is brakes in last 4 years but we all have different preferences.

KrayzKajun
07-14-2012, 09:43 AM
lawnhoppers, its funny you say that about the V10. i found this truck forsale yesterday on my way home.
F250, V10 gas motor, 140k miles guy wants $2400.

Ric
07-14-2012, 10:39 AM
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Reading between the lines I say Gas not Diesel and this is WHY. First Louisiana is Flat Land. Second Open Trailers are easier to pull. That means there is no advantage in paying the Extra maintenance cost of a Diesel. Add in you already have a Dually for any heavy hauling.

In Edit: I would love the find a 4.3 V 6 in a C2500. I need the weight carrying for spray tanks. But not the heavy pulling power here in Flat land.

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Deererunner
07-16-2012, 09:17 PM
Have you thought about a F-350 with a mason body? I know that you have your Walker mower and that would make it easy for hauling grass clippings along with other landscape jobs.

LibertyFarmLandscaping
07-28-2012, 12:02 AM
lawnhoppers, its funny you say that about the V10. i found this truck forsale yesterday on my way home.
F250, V10 gas motor, 140k miles guy wants $2400.

If everything checks out on the truck that sounds good. Looks like a recent paint job covering the yellow inside the bed. I would offer $2k.

You will definitely want your 2 man crew on the mowing route with that truck vs. your 40k Dodge..........:laugh:

KrayzKajun
09-13-2012, 12:45 PM
Plan to go make an offer on this 99 F250 w/ v10 today. http://i775.photobucket.com/albums/yy40/onekrayzeekajun/7B142CCB-C88A-4A6C-9DEC-6FD2D485AA1E-14478-000013B17B68A345.jpg
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Classic Cuts Lawn Service
09-15-2012, 07:48 PM
i went and looked at the 99' again the owner came out and chatted with me. he lives about 1 1/2 from here, said all the miles are highway, truck was strictly used for driving to work, never pulled anything with it. he had a folder in the glove box, with all the reciepts for every service the truck has had since he bought it new in 99. i was shocked. ill try to take a pic of it 2morrow.

If he has been that particular with every service, I wouldnt see the problem with the 99...I would go for it...less problems in the long run

RSK Property Maintenance
09-16-2012, 02:23 AM
i would go with the 96 f250 diesel, as long as it looks maintained. those 7.3's are work horses, just like the 94-98 12v cummins they are 500,000 mile if not million mile motors, if taken care of. 285k is nothing. especially if its flat where you are. 7.3 diesel can't kill it, i work my truck like no other and its always comes back for more, i've had 2 full pallets of sod in the bed, no issues. I tow 10-12,000lbs on a weekly basis no issues, my dads skid steer is mustang 2060, and with the equipment trailer is over 10k, then his mini x is a takeuchi tb125 which is heavier then the skid steer. my truck was also used for towing a 35' fishing boat to the ocean and loaded to the top of the cab with crab cages with the previous owner, so i had to replace the hitch but that was no big deal. before him the original owner bought the truck and used it for landscaping and plowing, and it had a sander in the bed....for the first 110,000 miles. so even having 238,000 hard working miles on my truck, it was used as a main source of income for both previous owners so it was well maintained, and the same goes with me. I do the oil every 3-4000 miles and whatever else it needs. its my only truck and i rely on it a lot especially in the winter when it snows.

Mtnmn
09-16-2012, 03:10 AM
On the 96 7.3 power stroke check the oil pan all over! They are known for having the oil pans rust thru.I know, I have a 96 7.3 and have had this problem. Its a very expensive repair bill. About $2500.00 in my area. The engine has to be pulled to replace the pan. The neighbor across the street had his go from the inside out. Check the power stoke forums out and you'll see all of the guys bitchin about this problem.

PlantscapeSolutions
09-16-2012, 03:59 AM
I have no patience for older trucks since repairs will be more frequent then my patience can handle. You also never know how much life they have left which makes buying them a gamble. Look for an 03' or newer Ram 2500 quad cab so if you grow you company you have a truck that can hold a crew and not just two guys.

I had a 97 F250 extended cab back around 03-06. It had 125K on it and it was an OK truck for 50K until it crapped out. The 5.9's are way stronger engines then the 7.3's and are less apt to give you high millage issues. I would look for something in the low 2000's if it fits in the budget.

I'm spoiled on new trucks and waiting for low to 0% interest spread out over 5-6 years with zero down. You know my daily driver is an 09' 3500 but my work truck is an 06' 2500 with 100K on it that I bought new. Good luck on buying your truck but be leery of any spark plugs since the toeing millage will suck. The 5.4 is not a strong engine.

LibertyFarmLandscaping
09-16-2012, 11:04 AM
I have no patience for older trucks since repairs will be more frequent then my patience can handle. You also never know how much life they have left which makes buying them a gamble. Look for an 03' or newer Ram 2500 quad cab so if you grow you company you have a truck that can hold a crew and not just two guys.

I had a 97 F250 extended cab back around 03-06. It had 125K on it and it was an OK truck for 50K until it crapped out. The 5.9's are way stronger engines then the 7.3's and are less apt to give you high millage issues. I would look for something in the low 2000's if it fits in the budget.

I'm spoiled on new trucks and waiting for low to 0% interest spread out over 5-6 years with zero down. You know my daily driver is an 09' 3500 but my work truck is an 06' 2500 with 100K on it that I bought new. Good luck on buying your truck but be leery of any spark plugs since the toeing millage will suck. The 5.4 is not a strong engine.

My 2011 Dodge I bought last Oct I got for 2.95% for 72 mos zero down through Sun Trust bank so still able to get all of the rebates they take away when you do 0% interest option through the manufactures credit co.
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PlantscapeSolutions
09-16-2012, 11:43 AM
My 2011 Dodge I bought last Oct I got for 2.95% for 72 mos zero down through Sun Trust bank so still able to get all of the rebates they take away when you do 0% interest option through the manufactures credit co.
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How much of a rebate did you keep? On a 45K loan at 2.95 you would pay about $4100 over 72 months. When I bought in December 2009 I think I gave up $3000 to get zero for 72.

The finance guy was a crook at Boerne Dodge outside San Antonio and tried to hard sell me on not using the 0%. When I pressed him on the issue and did some math he admitted paying my truck off early was the only way his rate would be better. He only said that because he was going to bet a kickback for selling the loan. He also outright lied about what the warranty covered and tried to shove an extended warranty down my throat.

They had the truck washed, plates on it and ready to go and I walked the hell out. The look on their face was priceless!

LibertyFarmLandscaping
09-16-2012, 01:02 PM
Gotta love those dealers! I've luckily bought all my Dodges from the same guy who was a salesman back when I bought my 90' and is now the Gen Mgr. I just call him on the phone to tell him what I want and they bring it to me. I shop for a loan on the Internet.

My truck is an ST 2wd cc g56 plain work truck with no chrome. I did put some alum takeoff wheels on it. Sticker was 41900. With all rebates and discounts it was 32k, otd was 34.5k. I've always paid extra through the season and min payment in winter. Usually paying off in about 48 to 54 mos.
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PlantscapeSolutions
09-16-2012, 01:24 PM
Gotta love those dealers! I've luckily bought all my Dodges from the same guy who was a salesman back when I bought my 90' and is now the Gen Mgr. I just call him on the phone to tell him what I want and they bring it to me. I shop for a loan on the Internet.

My truck is an ST 2wd cc g56 plain work truck with no chrome. I did put some alum takeoff wheels on it. Sticker was 41900. With all rebates and discounts it was 32k, otd was 34.5k. I've always paid extra through the season and min payment in winter. Usually paying off in about 48 to 54 mos.
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My 02' & 06' were ST models with vinyl floors and seats. Power nothing. You don't see very many ST models anymore. The SXT tends to be the base model most of the time now. The truck I walked out on was an ST and I ended up with an SXT at Benny Boyd.

I really like the power windows, power mirrors (heated), and cruise control. Dealers pay very little for the extras and the markup is huge. I didn't pay any extra for the SXT and it will have better resale value. I threw on some $500 Coverking seat covers over the cloth seats (cloth sucks), console, and all the headrests that look very factory. The floor got the Husky mats so everything cleans up well.

LibertyFarmLandscaping
09-16-2012, 03:55 PM
Mine has pw, pl, and pm. You can't get manual windows and locks on a cc anymore. Just the reg cab.
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Mowingman
09-16-2012, 09:42 PM
I am a little late to this discussion. however, I have owned 18 Ford F250/F350 pickups, 1996 - 2000 models. all diesels. I have also owned a 2010 F250 with the V10. I had a partime business buying and selling these used Powerstrokes, and used them in my business.
GET THE DIESEL!!!!!
The V10 will eat you alive on gas cost. Average MPG will be 9mpg, at the best. Mine cost me $130/week to fill up, and I was only putting a few miles/week on it pulling my trailer. This was last spring, before gas went up again.
The mileage means nothing on the diesel truck, if it has had routine maint. and care. All my Powerstrokes had between 125,000 and 135,000 miles when I bought them. I sold many of them to friends who still have them. Miles on several are now around 500,000, and the trucks are still running strong.
Over here, I could easily sell the diesel you are looking at for close to $5000.00 in no time, on Craigslist.