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greenmonster304
08-03-2012, 08:41 PM
installed this on a 1 hp sub today. the owner didnt want to see any of the controls or tank so I stuffed it all in this box. There is enough room to unscrew the tank and remove the cycle stop if need be.

Mike Leary
08-03-2012, 08:48 PM
Geez, a double boot shot! Not a bad install, tight, but not bad.

DEPENDABLE LANDSCAPING
08-03-2012, 08:50 PM
Looks nice and neat.
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Mike Leary
08-03-2012, 09:01 PM
I had so many problems with 60-40 switches and cycle-stops that I went over to "on-demand" and never looked back. :clapping:

1idejim
08-03-2012, 09:16 PM
Clean as always. nice to see pride in craftsmanship.
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greenmonster304
08-03-2012, 09:22 PM
I had so many problems with 60-40 switches and cycle-stops that I went over to "on-demand" and never looked back. :clapping:

There will be hose bibs and a pool fill on this system so it has to be pressurized.

I was thinking if I consulted boots first I could have fit a few 2400ts in there too.
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Mike Leary
08-03-2012, 09:25 PM
There will be hose bibs and a pool fill on this system so it has to be pressurized.

Not ranking your install at all. But on-demand has a baby pressure tank, as well.

greenmonster304
08-03-2012, 09:27 PM
I had so many problems with 60-40 switches and cycle-stops that I went over to "on-demand" and never looked back. :clapping:

There will be hose bibs and a pool fill on this system so it has to be pressurized.

I was thinking if I consulted boots first I could have fit a few 2400ts in there too.
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greenmonster304
08-03-2012, 09:30 PM
Sorry about the repeat
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Mike Leary
08-03-2012, 09:33 PM
I was thinking if I consulted boots first I could have fit a few 2400ts in there too.

Cripes, Boots could have stuffed ten valves in there. :rolleyes:

bcg
08-04-2012, 03:07 PM
I'm not criticizing but, I think in a year or so when you have to service this, you're going to really wish you'd dug out some more and put some landscape fabric and pea gravel below that box, it's going to be a real ***** when it starts to fill up with dirt. Or doesn't drain and fills with water with the pressure switch and power connections in there. It's a tidy job otherwise, just thinking down the road a little.

CAPT Stream Rotar
08-04-2012, 06:49 PM
Down the road if it needs service just dig it up... I mean why fuss around in that small box..

Devon, man that looks fantastic..Your hands do real nice work.

Wet_Boots
08-04-2012, 07:35 PM
what in the world is a pressure switch doing below grade? :dizzy:

Mike Leary
08-04-2012, 07:54 PM
what in the world is a pressure switch doing below grade? :dizzy:

Waiting to fail, I would guess. Up north that is illegal to have 115 volts in a v.b with 24-volts.

Wet_Boots
08-04-2012, 08:09 PM
that pressure switch belongs above grade, even if everything else stays in the box

Mike Leary
08-04-2012, 08:15 PM
that pressure switch belongs above grade, even if everything else stays in the box

Gives you more room for valves, plus, are those things waterproof? :dizzy:

Duekster
08-04-2012, 08:32 PM
I think you should keep 120 in a seal tight connection and so deep or 12" above grade. I would have to ask my electrican friend to be sure.

Wet_Boots
08-04-2012, 08:35 PM
a pressure switch isn't even rain-proof - homeowners with bright ideas like this should be asked when was the last time they took a bath with a plugged-in toaster being thrown in the tub

Duekster
08-04-2012, 08:37 PM
a pressure switch isn't even rain-proof - homeowners with bright ideas like this should be asked when was the last time they took a bath with a plugged-in toaster being thrown in the tub

EP's and PE's a like.

greenmonster304
08-04-2012, 08:42 PM
There is no 24v in there. Buried tanks and swtitches are quite common here.
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CAPT Stream Rotar
08-05-2012, 11:04 AM
Mike who? :)

You all pick to much.. Even though you know its wrong you will still take someones money on their order to install what THEY want..


I see pressure switches in pits and boxes all the time...I don't see any major issues here except in time it will fail... but hey

Has anyone seen the carly rae jepson video?

Wet_Boots
08-05-2012, 11:10 AM
good luck sticking your fingers into a flooding valve box containing a pressure switch

CAPT Stream Rotar
08-05-2012, 11:12 AM
I've almost done it a few times....a few years ago I grabbed tech 1's hand as he was putting it in a large box filled with water, on a 220 switch.. that would of been ugly...

Wet_Boots
08-05-2012, 11:16 AM
my point is to work in a way that does not permit electrocution to happen, even if that temporarily bothers a homeowner (who will stop objecting once they realize the danger being averted)

CAPT Stream Rotar
08-05-2012, 11:18 AM
money talks brotha.

wet boots walks?

:)

Wet_Boots
08-05-2012, 11:29 AM
You have to be smarter. You convert homeowner priorities into work that is safe and profitable. A pressure switch is easy, because you can run tubing and wire to some other location where the pressure switch is above ground and unobtrusive.

mitchgo
08-05-2012, 11:37 AM
Even I tell the customer what's up.. Listen b!tches! This is what is happening here!

1idejim
08-05-2012, 03:31 PM
Listen b!tches! This is what is happening here!

You have political ambitions mitch?
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greenmonster304
08-18-2012, 08:49 AM
Well to make you guys happy I changed the set up. I took the high voltage off the pressure switch and spliced the ends together. Then ran an 18/2 from the presure switch into the house to a pump start relay. I wired a transformer to one leg of the 18/2 and the other to the relay 24v leads. So when the pressure drops 24v goes out of the house to the pressure switch and back to energize the psr and start the pump.

I hope I made everyone happy.
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Wet_Boots
08-18-2012, 09:07 AM
Well done, sirrah!

CAPT Stream Rotar
08-18-2012, 09:51 AM
im hammpy yi

Mike Leary
08-18-2012, 11:34 AM
Whew! I can sleep well tonight.

irritation
08-18-2012, 09:17 PM
Whew! I can sleep well tonight.

I won't. Hope I never have to take on a service nightmare like that.

Mike Leary
08-18-2012, 09:21 PM
I won't. Hope I never have to take on a service nightmare like that.

And no one should. :dizzy:

greenmonster304
08-18-2012, 09:30 PM
What is the nightmare it is quite straight forward.
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1idejim
08-18-2012, 09:52 PM
What is the nightmare it is quite straight forward.
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I thought it neat and clean. Little tight but you see OD and CSV installs like this in catalogs
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Mike Leary
08-18-2012, 09:52 PM
What is the nightmare it is quite straight forward.

One must remember, the original installer may have known what was going on, but I've always planned for the "next guy".

Wet_Boots
08-18-2012, 09:56 PM
I've had a few 'remote' pressure switch installs, given that the pressure tanks were buried somewhere in the yard. Indoors, next to a controller, a pressure switch could easily be adjusted for constant running, while you check operation on all the zones.

irritation
08-18-2012, 09:57 PM
One must remember, the original installer may have known what was going on, but the the "next guy" may not. :nono:

Exactly, it is neat and clean but off the wall and I don't see it lasting.

Wet_Boots
08-18-2012, 10:02 PM
It would have been easy enough to run some 5/16 copper tubing to the indoor location, and keep the pressure switch contacts dry at all times.

greenmonster304
08-18-2012, 10:34 PM
Exactly, it is neat and clean but off the wall and I don't see it lasting.

We will have to agree to disagree.
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Wet_Boots
08-18-2012, 10:44 PM
If the 18 gauge wire was replaced with tubing, the pressure switch is indoors, and dry and safe, for little more expense.

Duekster
08-19-2012, 08:31 AM
If the 18 gauge wire was replaced with tubing, the pressure switch is indoors, and dry and safe, for little more expense.

Exactly. :drinkup:

1idejim
08-19-2012, 01:45 PM
Down the road if it needs service just dig it up... I mean why fuss around in that small box..

Devon, man that looks fantastic..Your hands do real nice work.

the tank screws off to gain more working room eddie