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amicold
08-05-2012, 09:08 PM
I know this is the pesticide forum but I figured I would post here being that I am an applicator and looking for a way to control these. These appear to be some kind of fern, but they propagate amazingly quick, they also stink. The vegetation gives off a pungent odor, very disagreeable, kind of rotting/fecal like. Especially when the vegetation is cut when trimming/removing. I am assuming they are an invasive/weed species because of their speed of propagation and growing environments (foundation cracks, crevices, etc) Immature plants have green stems/stalks and they eventually grow woody. The images show young (5ft) plants and a fully mature "tree". I am located in WNY if it helps.

Thanks.
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/4324/img20120805160237.jpg
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redsox
08-05-2012, 09:18 PM
looks like a Walnut tree. I know mice and squirrels will move the nuts to cracks. Not sure though. What ever it is try cutting them and using some toradon RTU with sponge applicator on the fresh cut and that will work. Haven't found any tree toradon won't kill.

amicold
08-05-2012, 09:39 PM
Really? I didn't think it would be something that common and I suppose if they are I feel stupid. The "mature" plant in the picture doesn't have fruit of any sort on it. These are all over a couple of crap properties I cut in a low income part of Buffalo. I don't see these where I live in the burbs. They seem to have an affinity for buildings. I'll see if I can get some different pictures of the full grown trees. There are some that are forty feet tall or so alongside some abandoned buildings but they don't have the density and fullness that a mature walnut would have.

Edit: For reference, the smaller ones in the photo weren't present in the beginning of the season, They are maybe ten weeks old.

White Gardens
08-05-2012, 09:40 PM
HA!

I already knew what it was before I even seen the pic. Your description was enough.

Tree Of Paradise, or also Known as Tree Of Heaven.

I hate the things with a passion.


http://www.invasive.org/browse/subinfo.cfm?sub=3003




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White Gardens
08-05-2012, 09:47 PM
Best way to get rid of them is to cut them off close to the ground and apply stump killer.

Then make sure that you use Round-Up or any other weed killer to get any new sprouts every year. Generally though, I've found if you can eliminate them and ones in the surrounding area, they won't come back and seeds seem to not stay viable in the soil for too many seasons.

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cgaengineer
08-05-2012, 09:48 PM
Looks like sumac to me...
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cgaengineer
08-05-2012, 09:50 PM
http://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&source=mog&hl=en&gl=us&client=safari&tab=wi&q=sumac&sa=N&biw=320&bih=416#i=4

Break the main trunk and tell me is it hollow.
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agrostis
08-05-2012, 09:52 PM
That's either a poison sumac or ailanthus, they are hard to tell apart when young,(at least for me). The seedhead when mature is a good way to tell them apart. The description's i have read say ailathus has a strong burnt peanut butter smell from minimum contact and the mature wood has a brownish core. Poison sumac has the same active chemical (urishiol) as poison ivy on it's leave's. You decide what it is. A stump treatment of round up concentrate will kill either one.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ailanthus+

http://www.google.com/search?q=poison+sumac&rls=com.microsoft:en-us&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=&startPage=1&rlz=1I7GPCK_enUS320

White Gardens
08-05-2012, 10:09 PM
Looks like sumac to me...
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Agreed, Possibly a Sumac Too.


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93Chevy
08-05-2012, 10:18 PM
I was always under the impression that it was Sumac...easy to tell by the smell. I'd be interested to see if I was under the right impression or if I was misled.

RAlmaroad
08-06-2012, 04:49 AM
We have those in TN. They are horrible specimens of plant life. They spread from seeds and are easily cut with a bush hog. There were some that were nearly 70' high. Those were barked and let die. The smaller one were sprayed with Crossbow and a little diesel fuel. Keep mowing them. If you only have a few then cut and dig out the root. Their wood is really soft. And they do stink when leaves are on them. Yes they are "Tree of Paradise" and brought here towards the turn of the century from Asia so I've been told--but not sure.

cgaengineer
08-06-2012, 05:50 AM
Not all sumac is poison either and what the op posted is not poison from what I see.

http://www.poison-sumac.org/
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Mike NY
08-06-2012, 07:33 AM
Tree of paradise, or sumac? (note: There is no poison sumac in wny. only staghorn sumac)

RAlmaroad
08-06-2012, 08:14 AM
Could be Sumac, check for a grape cluster of berries in the fall. It can grow quite tall and very tree like.

Ric
08-06-2012, 10:23 AM
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Go to John Deer and buy a EMPTY Glue Can and Comb Application Brush/ Lid. Actually a plastic bottle the Lid/brush would fit is better. Now put your Tree/Brush Killer in the can and every time you see a sprout you are ready to treat it.

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cgaengineer
08-07-2012, 05:53 AM
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Go to John Deer and buy a EMPTY Glue Can and Comb Application Brush/ Lid. Actually a plastic bottle the Lid/brush would fit is better. Now put your Tree/Brush Killer in the can and every time you see a sprout you are ready to treat it.

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This is a great idea ric, thanks for sharing.
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