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LGL
08-17-2012, 08:49 PM
Hey everyone, need some direct advice, don't hold back. I have about 60 accounts, work is a wide variety of account style. I would like to start bringing on more of the quality accounts and dropping the lesser, also very interested in the medium sized commercial stuff. I have a few now, and its going well, like anyone, would just like more. I have solid equipment, trailer, truck, etc. My thought is a mailer to isolated areas every other month for say 6 months for the residential, not sure about the commercial. Thinking a porfolio and just cold call the places I like. Your thoughts? Thanks for any input.
Gary

Florida Gardener
08-17-2012, 09:01 PM
Hey everyone, need some direct advice, don't hold back. I have about 60 accounts, work is a wide variety of account style. I would like to start bringing on more of the quality accounts and dropping the lesser, also very interested in the medium sized commercial stuff. I have a few now, and its going well, like anyone, would just like more. I have solid equipment, trailer, truck, etc. My thought is a mailer to isolated areas every other month for say 6 months for the residential, not sure about the commercial. Thinking a porfolio and just cold call the places I like. Your thoughts? Thanks for any input.
Gary

I did direct mail and got bupkis. Huge waste of money. I would go to your current customers and ask for referrals. In my experience, the customers with nicer yards and that have some money tend to refer more,..just my experience.
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larryinalabama
08-17-2012, 09:07 PM
If your route is full why put any effort into new business, it will come on its own.

I havent spent a penny on advertising sinc Feburary, and I actually picked up 2 weekley irrageted accounts during our dry spell here in bamaland.

Florida Gardener
08-17-2012, 09:17 PM
If your route is full why put any effort into new business, it will come on its own.

I havent spent a penny on advertising sinc Feburary, and I actually picked up 2 weekley irrageted accounts during our dry spell here in bamaland.

Black Betty bamaland?
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larryinalabama
08-17-2012, 09:19 PM
Black Betty bamaland?
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Roll tide.

How u doing?

Florida Gardener
08-17-2012, 09:50 PM
Roll tide.

How u doing?

Gator bait! Doing well, long week. Got another long one next week. How bout urself?
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lawnguy001
08-18-2012, 08:50 PM
My friend , If you have 60 accts. in the Jax. area , You have nothing to worry about . With a 21" wb and a 34" Phazer, you must be working 20 hrs. a day, 7 days a wk. Good luck! Walt

Patriot Services
08-19-2012, 09:05 AM
I know everybody comes on here and says I want "better quality accounts". What's the difference if its makes you money? I have the gamut from biweekly ,non irrigated, Bahia nastys right up no lawn hand gardens and mini-estates. bottom line they all turn a profit. To me a quality account pays on time and doesn't pester me with chit chat.:usflag:

Florida Gardener
08-19-2012, 09:29 AM
I know everybody comes on here and says I want "better quality accounts". What's the difference if its makes you money? I have the gamut from biweekly ,non irrigated, Bahia nastys right up no lawn hand gardens and mini-estates. bottom line they all turn a profit. To me a quality account pays on time and doesn't pester me with chit chat.:usflag:
Just curious, how often do you cut those Bahia yards in winter?? The one I had way back when I only got 2 cut 2x from nov-April. It was EOW in summer.
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LGL
08-19-2012, 10:09 AM
I know everybody comes on here and says I want "better quality accounts". What's the difference if its makes you money? I have the gamut from biweekly ,non irrigated, Bahia nastys right up no lawn hand gardens and mini-estates. bottom line they all turn a profit. To me a quality account pays on time and doesn't pester me with chit chat.:usflag:

Ha! I hear you about everyone always wants more. I'm not complaining about the work I have, thats for sure. I just feel like its time to go in a different direction.

LGL
08-19-2012, 10:10 AM
My friend , If you have 60 accts. in the Jax. area , You have nothing to worry about . With a 21" wb and a 34" Phazer, you must be working 20 hrs. a day, 7 days a wk. Good luck! Walt

Profile hasn't been updated, I have since added a 60 inch Laser and a 7x14 enclosed. We work about 40hrs.

Patriot Services
08-19-2012, 03:07 PM
Just curious, how often do you cut those Bahia yards in winter?? The one I had way back when I only got 2 cut 2x from nov-April. It was EOW in summer.
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Every one of my 32 Bahia accounts are year round biweekly and non irrigated. Winter time may be one cut and light cleanup but still gets two visits per month. I have them split pretty even so two of those types actually add up to more money per month than I can get for a weekly, irrigated, mow only SA yard. Not ugly weed patches just not the nicest yards in town.:usflag:

Landscape Poet
08-20-2012, 09:57 PM
Every one of my 32 Bahia accounts are year round biweekly and non irrigated. Winter time may be one cut and light cleanup but still gets two visits per month. I have them split pretty even so two of those types actually add up to more money per month than I can get for a weekly, irrigated, mow only SA yard. Not ugly weed patches just not the nicest yards in town.:usflag:

I have a couple of nice Bahia lawns that are fine and look nice....like you said ...the money is better. The will start slowing down about the middle of next month but getting the hell beat out of me right now with the regular afternoon rains. I enjoy bahia that is well taken care of because of the profit % vs SA as I generally will not cut and if the PCO is doing his job...little weeds to grow up and make it appear that it needs cut during many of the winter months.

I have learned to love Bahia in many ways...from a profit stand point.

Florida Gardener
08-20-2012, 10:36 PM
I don't mind nice Bahia. BUT I have NEVER seen it. The ones I had in the past were weed patches.
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Keith
08-20-2012, 11:09 PM
I just got a request for a quote on 3 acres of it. I haven't mowed a single lawn that size in years. It's actually a 10 acre property, but around 6 1/2 are woodland. And the house and barns probably take up a 1/2 acre. They had horses at one time. But it's just a huge lawn now, kind of broken up.

I've probably haven't mowed 3 acres of the bahia total all of this year. I don't even have a mower that doesn't have a mulch kit installed right now :D I feel like a rookie with this one.

Florida Gardener
08-20-2012, 11:18 PM
I just got a request for a quote on 3 acres of it. I haven't mowed a single lawn that size in years. It's actually a 10 acre property, but around 6 1/2 are woodland. And the house and barns probably take up a 1/2 acre. They had horses at one time. But it's just a huge lawn now, kind of broken up.

I've probably haven't mowed 3 acres of the bahia total all of this year. I don't even have a mower that doesn't have a mulch kit installed right now :D I feel like a rookie with this one.
I wouldn't mind landing something like that around here...there's some homes here with acres of Bahia, and hybrid Bermuda or zoysia around the house cut with a reel and nice landscaping....they fetch a pretty penny. I would def not mulch Bahia. Throw a set of G6's on and go...do you bid properties like that by the acre?? Do they want weekly in summer and EOW in winter?
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Keith
08-20-2012, 11:31 PM
I believe I am going to price it year-round based on cutting weekly from about the 2nd week in May through Sept, bi-weekly March..April..Oct, monthly Nov-Feb. It's not an estate. It's just a former, non-irrigated pasture with a house and some barns. It is all Argentine though. Well, maybe a patch or two of Pensacola.The only other work there is about 45 minutes of trimming. It's got about a 1/4 mile of fence to trim.

Kind of tricky pricing this one out compared to my average 5-30k sf lawn.

Florida Gardener
08-20-2012, 11:41 PM
I believe I am going to price it year-round based on cutting weekly from about the 2nd week in May through Sept, bi-weekly March..April..Oct, monthly Nov-Feb. It's not an estate. It's just a former, non-irrigated pasture with a house and some barns. It is all Argentine though. Well, maybe a patch or two of Pensacola.The only other work there is about 45 minutes of trimming. It's got about a 1/4 mile of fence to trim.

Kind of tricky pricing this one out compared to my average 5-30k sf lawn.
That's funny...that's exactly the schedule I used to cut Bahia. If we had a freeze or near freeze, I could stretch out every 6-8 weeks or so. I would go bi-weekly starting oct 1, and start EOW in march again. You guys get colder than here, so I'm surprised your schedule is same as mine was.
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Keith
08-21-2012, 12:13 AM
Bahia generally just stalls after you have a couple nights in the 40's and the nighttime humidity fades in the fall. The time frame is probably closer for bahia between central and south Florida than other grasses. You might have a little more growth in April, but I bet it's not much different.