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FLCthes4:11-12
08-19-2012, 06:02 PM
Have beed looking at a bush hog attachment for my New Holland ls 180.b It has an open cab. Is it safe to run a cutter without a windshield. I have seen machines going up the road with similar set ups without a windshield. I wouldn't plan on raising it and cutting trees just for heavy grass and briars. What do you guys think?

Digdeep
08-19-2012, 07:37 PM
Definitely get a Lexan windshield. You will be amazed at what comes flying out from under the decks.

AWJ Services
08-19-2012, 07:45 PM
If you actually keep it on the ground you do not need one, however better safe than sorry.

Dirtman2007
08-19-2012, 08:49 PM
If you actually keep it on the ground you do not need one, however better safe than sorry.

Ive had some stuff wack the glass so hard I thought it was going to come through before.

Its easy to do if your raising the mower up to cut trees, the next thing you know your looking at the blades.

MesaVerdeLM
08-19-2012, 09:00 PM
Ive had stuff come flying at me with a conventional tractor mounted bush hog. Windshield is a must, cant work if you've got a piece of rebar or tree limb sticking through you.
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4 seasons lawn&land
08-19-2012, 09:22 PM
one thing Ive wondered is how those things are even safe with a windshield. Like he said, pieces of rebar or steel pipe or thos green landscape posts. I can see those going right through the window

bobcat_ron
08-19-2012, 09:30 PM
The way I see it, you wear eye protection when grinding or using other hand held power tools, you might want something bigger for your body. Crap can come flying out, hit the skid steer tub frame, bounce back off the loader cross member and wham-o blam-o, you got yourself a blinded eye.
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FLCthes4:11-12
08-20-2012, 06:35 AM
Yeah I definately think you have to be very careful while doing this work. Does anyone know of a source online for a door kit. The dealership was pretty high I thought. I came across one that was expaneded metal. I thought about making one like that and covering with plexi or lexan. I would just use it for cutting or maybe clearing with the grapple.

YellowDogSVC
08-20-2012, 08:15 PM
rocks, brush, METAL, etc., can ricochet off of trees, other obstacles, or depending on the type of brush mower, the mower housing. A front guard is recommended. Glass is only a temporary solution that will eventually get you hurt because it gives a false sense of security. If you have an open cab, you can still get a mesh door for mowing.

A good rule is to never lift the mower off the ground while the blades are spinning. I have seen blade housings come apart, blades come off from poor torquing or failing blade bolts, and other scary things but a door with lexan or expanded steel will offer some protection.

Good luck

Kepple Services
08-20-2012, 09:17 PM
I would never run a skid or track machine without a lean windshield. Ever. I have had so much material hit the front it's amazing. More than a few times hard enough to make my ears ring for a long time. I had 1/4" gouges in the lexan from material hitting it. Many times I thought about what would have happened to me without the windshield. And to be homes you will also stay a LOT cleaner in the end.

Bottom line is I wouldn't even think about running one without a windshield.
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YellowDogSVC
08-20-2012, 09:46 PM
I know it's different but I was running a mulcher today shredding brush piles with stumps. There was some lumber in there... a piece shot out like an arrow and went between the cab and the machine frame. Missed my knee by a few inches. Was sticking inside my cab by about 4 to 5 inches and sticking outside the cab about 8 inches. It was a piece of 2x4 or similar. Went through the foam "gasket" that seals the cab. Was wedged so tight that I had to undo cab bolts to get it out. Even with 12" water pipe pliers, I couldn't budge it. So, that is proof at how fast things can go from normal to dangerous.

FLCthes4:11-12
08-20-2012, 10:08 PM
so what do you guys think would be safer the an oem new holland door, or fabricate an expanded metal door with some plexi or lexan. Is it better to run them backwards?

YellowDogSVC
08-21-2012, 04:46 PM
run what backwards? Expanded metal will hold up to big blunt missiles (if it's built well) but will let a lot of dust and small stuff straight in. Will not be fun mowing things with small thorns if the wind is blowing in your face. Lexan is a good choice and even 1/4 is rated to something like 300 mph impact. Though your sides are open, the small stuff won't get you head on..

swanny
08-21-2012, 09:45 PM
For all my lexan needs I've been using ebay seller Popdisplays ...believe they are in OH...they give the best piece price and even a better price when you buy in bulk. Very fast shipping too.

You can fabricate the entire opening for a new holland skid out of 3/8" or 1/2" lexan. It'll make you feel very safe.

Digdeep
08-22-2012, 07:30 AM
For all my lexan needs I've been using ebay seller Popdisplays ...believe they are in OH...they give the best piece price and even a better price when you buy in bulk. Very fast shipping too.

You can fabricate the entire opening for a new holland skid out of 3/8" or 1/2" lexan. It'll make you feel very safe.

Good call on the 1/2". Its better to be safe than sorry. It only take one thrown object to ruin your day.

FLCthes4:11-12
08-22-2012, 08:51 AM
I have never ran one so i dont have the expirence as you guys, but if the cutter is on the ground mowing thick grass, briars etc does it throw out debris? I know accidents happen but what would be the difference between cutting with a tractor or a skid?. I do think that I am going with the "custom" expaned metal topped with lexan.

4 seasons lawn&land
08-22-2012, 06:00 PM
look at this big bad machine. I guess its like a hybrid mulcher / brush hog

http://www.machinerytrader.com/listingsdetail/detail.aspx?OHID=7663291&

swanny
08-22-2012, 08:00 PM
I have never ran one so i dont have the expirence as you guys, but if the cutter is on the ground mowing thick grass, briars etc does it throw out debris? I know accidents happen but what would be the difference between cutting with a tractor or a skid?. I do think that I am going with the "custom" expaned metal topped with lexan.

My mower is an open front type so it spits most of the stuff out in that direction, and it also has a rigid metal rear skirt so very little comes out the back when it's on the ground. Some have chains hanging down in the rear for a skirt and they aren't as effective in keeping flying debris contained.

The downside to the rigid skirt is that grasses will build up easier and become trapped, while the chains can float over top of the grass clumps.

While mowing taller grass I keep the rear of my mower a tad higher than the front to let the grass escape easier. Having the front close to grade also allows a bit more stabilization with less bobbing and pitching, especially since I like to cruise at 5 or 6 mph when cutting all the trails and fields I routinely maintain.