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Smallaxe
09-01-2012, 12:46 PM
I know this is kind of lame, but hear me out... :)

I am a full-service solo operator that doesn't do a lot of lawns, as much as I do a lot,,, on fewer lawns... I've been turning down new jobs for years, unless it is something interesting and a fun challenge to do...

So the need for a hardworking trimmer is unnecessary and the one I recently bought is already irritating me and costing me downtime and foolish trips to the mechanic...

I know its asking a lot for anyone to admit using one, but perhaps you've heard of those folks who've actually had one and would be willing to share whether it could be worthwhile to have, 3 charged batteries for a medium load 45 minute job...

I'm seriously considering this, so any information is appreciated... :)

BPS##
09-01-2012, 01:01 PM
I do not see it as feasible.


That said I have not tried one. But I cannot see the amount of wasted time going back to the truck for a new battery....... 3 times in 45 mins.


If your "new" trimmer is giving you that many fits then I'd suggest that the problem is in your wallet not with having a gas powered trimmer. Don't buy home owner grade equipment and it should serve you better.

I still have a 98 redmax bc2600 trimmer I bought new. This summer I put a new gas tank on it.
Prior to that its had new air filters and new spark plugs....... thats it.

Smallaxe
09-01-2012, 01:21 PM
I do not see it as feasible.


That said I have not tried one. But I cannot see the amount of wasted time going back to the truck for a new battery....... 3 times in 45 mins.


If your "new" trimmer is giving you that many fits then I'd suggest that the problem is in your wallet not with having a gas powered trimmer. Don't buy home owner grade equipment and it should serve you better.

I still have a 98 redmax bc2600 trimmer I bought new. This summer I put a new gas tank on it.
Prior to that its had new air filters and new spark plugs....... thats it.

Understood... :)

You're right about not getting the right equipment to begin with, in that I let a fellow I've done business with forever, talked me into buying something other than Echo, because he no longer had the Echo franchise...

So this question has more to do with: 1.) getting a new gas powered Echo, 2.) just finish up my career with the 2 piece Echo attachment system(as cumbersome as that is) or 3.) picking up a battery system that wastes less money than my last purchase did...

Further comments will be appreciated...

OakNut
09-01-2012, 03:59 PM
Do a search here for "CORE Gasless".

They make string trimmers and other items that are battery powered. They make anything battery powered that is sold in box stores look like toys in my opinion.

I handled one and "ran" it, but didn't get to use it to trim anything.

My 3 year old Stihl is annoying me (poor starts/stalling) to the point where I'm considering trying one.

For light use, I don't see a huge drawback as the battery is claimed to have a run time roughly equal to a tank of gas on a gas powered trimmer.

Have you seen the price of gas this week?

BPS##
09-01-2012, 04:28 PM
I might be persuaded to demo one...... but none of the close sales outlets are dealers. Just box stores that don't have demo units.


http://coreoutdoorpower.com/products-page/trimmers/cgt403-commercial-trimmer-package/

Smallaxe
09-01-2012, 04:55 PM
Do a search here for "CORE Gasless".

They make string trimmers and other items that are battery powered. They make anything battery powered that is sold in box stores look like toys in my opinion.

I handled one and "ran" it, but didn't get to use it to trim anything.

My 3 year old Stihl is annoying me (poor starts/stalling) to the point where I'm considering trying one.

For light use, I don't see a huge drawback as the battery is claimed to have a run time roughly equal to a tank of gas on a gas powered trimmer.

Have you seen the price of gas this week?

I came up with this webstie:

http://www.centralpower.com/Admin/AdminUploads/CPS0312CoreSellSheet.pdf

I wonder if they really have been able to produce a viable 'commercial' product???

OakNut
09-01-2012, 07:56 PM
Here. This is the thread I posted in before. Saves me from typing again.

http://www.lawnsite.com/showthread.php?t=376199&highlight=core+gasless



:)

Smallaxe
09-02-2012, 08:43 AM
Yes, interesting... I would definately go with h.o. machines rather than commercial grade for the number of hours I actually put on them for the summer...

If CORE believes they can get people to invest that kind of money in a battery trimmer than I suppose it is worth looking into... I was afraid I'd put it in the trash barrel before the first battery needed charge... :)

Think Green
09-03-2012, 09:20 AM
Axe,
I am interested in the stihl--FSA 85 battery powered trimmer....straight shaft.
I need two of them for the lawns that take us around 45 minutes to service all the way down to the 30 minute lawns. I am understanding that the sales side of these units tells you each battery performs for 45 minutes at full throttle. This would mean to have two of each battery on charge during the day. My larger lawn of 1/2, 3/4 and 1 acre will continue to use the 4 cycle trimmers.
The 36 volt 160 lithium ion battery with heat and cold technology is my concern. It is supposed to quick charge and run on demand..........but I am in a hot area. Will this battery perform during these peak heat days efficiently?

I would hope that improvements is made and field tested before I go spend 10 bills on a new technology and be disappointed.
I wonder if the money saved in fuel--mix is justified from drive time and frustration!

I even thought about the battery operated hedge trimmers.............after reading, i can't help but think that each of my jobs requires holding a trimmer for at least an hour before putting it down. My combi units both go for a couple hours each before putting them down.
Don't see the money saved in labor, etc. yet..............could be wrong though!

Maybe for big grounds that do not travel to work will profit from these units. We guys that travel and rely on mobile self contained units will find it hard to change over completely.

Duekster
09-03-2012, 09:27 AM
I think they could be good for some applications but a true commerical account would need several batteries and chargers.

We saw some guy with some hedge trimmers on this forum. He had a backpack full of batteries.

Smallaxe
09-03-2012, 09:34 AM
Axe,
I am interested in the stihl--FSA 85 battery powered trimmer....straight shaft.
I need two of them for the lawns that take us around 45 minutes to service all the way down to the 30 minute lawns. I am understanding that the sales side of these units tells you each battery performs for 45 minutes at full throttle. This would mean to have two of each battery on charge during the day. My larger lawn of 1/2, 3/4 and 1 acre will continue to use the 4 cycle trimmers.
The 36 volt 160 lithium ion battery with heat and cold technology is my concern. It is supposed to quick charge and run on demand..........but I am in a hot area. Will this battery perform during these peak heat days efficiently?

I would hope that improvements is made and field tested before I go spend 10 bills on a new technology and be disappointed.
I wonder if the money saved in fuel--mix is justified from drive time and frustration!

I even thought about the battery operated hedge trimmers.............after reading, i can't help but think that each of my jobs requires holding a trimmer for at least an hour before putting it down. My combi units both go for a couple hours each before putting them down.
Don't see the money saved in labor, etc. yet..............could be wrong though!

Maybe for big grounds that do not travel to work will profit from these units. We guys that travel and rely on mobile self contained units will find it hard to change over completely.

I agree that these machines wouldn't be used for major activity,,, but in my situation in which I've whittled down my need, for weed-eating, to only superficial weed-eating ,,, if these would be adequate... :)

Think Green
09-03-2012, 10:00 AM
Axe,
I guess i didn't answer your question because this is the same question i seek.
maybe the general consumer whom is wanting to ween away from the lightweight electric cord trimmers can have something remotely comparable to the pro's is better suited for these products. I just can't realize carrying two more trimmers on the truck for the piddle work and then switching over to the gasoline trimmers at will. There needs to be more usage and sustainable time allowed from these batteries to cure my satisfaction before it becomes an addiction.
If a lithium ion battery phone with a lot of apps only gets 1-3 hours life while in continual use, then why not these units. I can deal with a hour usage rate.....this could factor in to lower cost.......but the cold and hot peak usage is what is stumbling me!

BPS##
09-03-2012, 10:05 AM
On the charger side........... you'll have to either carry a days worth of batteries or have a charger on the truck.


Last year I saw a "green" lawn care company advertised for sale.
They listed a rather long list of ways they've gone green.
One of them was electric equipment as much as possible with solar chargers. The panels were on the roof of their enclosed trailer.

Duekster
09-03-2012, 04:28 PM
On the charger side........... you'll have to either carry a days worth of batteries or have a charger on the truck.


Last year I saw a "green" lawn care company advertised for sale.
They listed a rather long list of ways they've gone green.
One of them was electric equipment as much as possible with solar chargers. The panels were on the roof of their enclosed trailer.

Solar panels are a gimmick not way you could keep up a days worth of batteries on a solar panel on the roof of a van or trailer.

Smallaxe
09-03-2012, 04:54 PM
Axe,
I guess i didn't answer your question because this is the same question i seek.
maybe the general consumer whom is wanting to ween away from the lightweight electric cord trimmers can have something remotely comparable to the pro's is better suited for these products. I just can't realize carrying two more trimmers on the truck for the piddle work and then switching over to the gasoline trimmers at will. There needs to be more usage and sustainable time allowed from these batteries to cure my satisfaction before it becomes an addiction.
If a lithium ion battery phone with a lot of apps only gets 1-3 hours life while in continual use, then why not these units. I can deal with a hour usage rate.....this could factor in to lower cost.......but the cold and hot peak usage is what is stumbling me!

I bought a WORX battery trimmer today... I expect to use it on the one small job I've got left and make my report...

But you're correct,,, other than the CORE, that was discussed earlier, you've still got too much volume of usage to monkey with...
If this is an acceptable option for what little trimming I do nowdays,,, I'll buy an extra battery...

Semi-retired is good... :)

Smallaxe
09-13-2012, 06:55 PM
Well, I can say that I appreciate the ergonomics of the machine much better than the standard design... I can do the job w/out any muscles cramping up in my neck and no tingling in the hands and fingers... :)