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xclusive
09-09-2012, 01:04 PM
What kind of ratcheting binders do you guys use for securing a skidsteer to a trailer? Any brand recommendations?

AWJ Services
09-09-2012, 04:09 PM
You go either american or import.

Most do a 3/8-1/2 binder with 3/8 grade 70 chain.

http://www.1st-chainsupply.com/binders/ratchet.htm?gclid=COr7xqqmqbICFQqR7QodoCkAVA

Durabilt is a popular brand.

knox gsl
09-09-2012, 04:36 PM
A US made product rated for 1.5 times the weight of the chain used with it. I prefer snaps for anything under 10k personally, but ratchets are much safer.
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xclusive
09-09-2012, 06:00 PM
How about this one? http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200576801_200576801

AWJ Services
09-09-2012, 06:07 PM
Peerless is a good brand.

The bad thing about snaps is DOT can determine them non compliant with regulations. It states that the binder must be lockable so as not to release which a snap will need something to hold the handle down to be legal.

xclusive
09-09-2012, 06:22 PM
AWJ and Knox thank you for you input.

One more question how many of these do I need to secure a skidsteer and what length chain do you recommend to go along with it?

AWJ Services
09-09-2012, 07:58 PM
Dot says fasten in 4 points. Chain must be .5g load rating front and .8g rating back.

Danny Boy
09-09-2012, 08:35 PM
On mine when I got them, I took them apart and put never seize on the threads, it sure makes them easier to use....

xclusive
09-09-2012, 08:39 PM
Dot says fasten in 4 points. Chain must be .5g load rating front and .8g rating back.

Sorry if I sound dumb but does that mean I need 4 binders and 4 chains or 2 of them 1 for each chain securing the skidsteer?

knox gsl
09-09-2012, 09:41 PM
To properly secure per DOT rules you will need 2 chains for the body of the machine and then one more to secure the boom. I know alot of guys just run one on the back and one over the boom which would work and most DOT guys will be cool with it till you get in a wreck. I would also get one size larger than needed to hold it down. I've hauled alot of flatbed loads with steel and equipment and have always played it safe as a shifted load can cost alot of money. One last thing handles are not secure attachment points. I see alot of guys run a 2" strap through the handles on the front of the cab, they will bust if he gets in the brakes hard.

AWJ Services
09-10-2012, 06:41 AM
the g stands for G force or multiply the weight by the number in front of the g.

If machine weighs 10k pounds 10,000 x .5g = 5000 pounds. The chain will need to rated higher than that.


http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/truck/vehicle/cs-policy.htm

There are the rules.
Anything over 10k has to have a min of 4 tiedowns. Under 10k can go with 2 tiedowns if I read it right.LOL