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BROWNS LAWN CARE
09-12-2012, 02:08 PM
i just started in the business this year and just received an inquiry for fertilizing and weed control. they do their own mowing but are looking to me for the rest. i am not licensed to spray anything so that is out...

1. how should i bid the job? most of it will be done with a riding mower and a pull behind spreader. a small area around the pool in the back will be a push spreader. if i was gonna bid it for mowing, i would bid $50-$60...

2. how many times a year should i fertilize for them? i mentioned 2-4 times and year and they are good with my recommendation. in otherwords, give me the cliff notes version of fertilizing/weed control granular style.

3. what type/brand fertilizer should i be looking to get for a fall application...?

4. do you guys mark up supply costs also?

oh, most of the grass is St. Augustine...



i need all the help i can get on this one as i have never done this except as a homeowner and had no particular regiment or anything...


thanks in advance...

TriCountyLawn
09-12-2012, 03:28 PM
Thanks for reminding me to send in the payment for the applicators class next month!

BROWNS LAWN CARE
09-12-2012, 05:56 PM
Thanks for reminding me to send in the payment for the applicators class next month!

you're welcome... ;)

do you have any comments regarding my questions ?

Think Green
09-12-2012, 07:39 PM
Brown,
I am sure you are a great person and you mean well with your intentions. This forum will eat you alive with a question regarding pricing of services that requires a legal license from your State. Training on fertilization and proper knowledge of herbicides is learned first---then you will have yearly continuing educational courses to follow. Some states require working for a licensed company for a few years before sitting in on the exams. Kind of like for plumbing and electrical.
Members on this forum will not answer your question with direct answers, so please understand that members like myself cannot and will not advise you to apply anything that will result in revocation of your priviledge license......if you have one in your town, city or metro area.
First things first.!!

BROWNS LAWN CARE
09-12-2012, 07:59 PM
Brown,
I am sure you are a great person and you mean well with your intentions. This forum will eat you alive with a question regarding pricing of services that requires a legal license from your State. Training on fertilization and proper knowledge of herbicides is learned first---then you will have yearly continuing educational courses to follow. Some states require working for a licensed company for a few years before sitting in on the exams. Kind of like for plumbing and electrical.
Members on this forum will not answer your question with direct answers, so please understand that members like myself cannot and will not advise you to apply anything that will result in revocation of your priviledge license......if you have one in your town, city or metro area.
First things first.!!

i have no problem with getting legal...

but it was my understanding i can spread granulated fertilizer without any license.... is that not true in TX?

Think Green
09-12-2012, 08:44 PM
It may be true of Texas as It is here in Arkansas but the catch is the combination products.
You can do one but not both and be legal.
Some service providers will do it and keep getting away with the issue until the turf dies and then there is a call to the Agriculture department.

I wouldn't turn down the offer of fertilizing as you know that St. Auggie needs just as much feeding as bermuda grass.

when I was in my 20's and in training, I used to apply whatever the customer wanted to pay money for. I was illegal also...........my father ran this business and I was the peon!! I did what I had to do in order to gain knowledge in practices before I could even take the exams. Sometimes, it takes a good thief to be a CID officer.
The thing is when people start talking is when you get a visit from the State Ag. Inspector.

BROWNS LAWN CARE
09-12-2012, 08:56 PM
It may be true of Texas as It is here in Arkansas but the catch is the combination products.
You can do one but not both and be legal.
Some service providers will do it and keep getting away with the issue until the turf dies and then there is a call to the Agriculture department.

I wouldn't turn down the offer of fertilizing as you know that St. Auggie needs just as much feeding as bermuda grass.

when I was in my 20's and in training, I used to apply whatever the customer wanted to pay money for. I was illegal also...........my father ran this business and I was the peon!! I did what I had to do in order to gain knowledge in practices before I could even take the exams. Sometimes, it takes a good thief to be a CID officer.
The thing is when people start talking is when you get a visit from the State Ag. Inspector.

so are you saying just a fertilizer might be okay, but say a weed-n-feed would not be?

thanks for your time... i am just trying to understand the rules, follow them and make money.

btw, i have been googling and looking at the TDA website, but still haven't found a definitive answer...

any texans out there care to comment?

thanks

BROWNS LAWN CARE
09-12-2012, 10:38 PM
ok, i was able to find out that i can legally spread granulated fertilizer but that is it. no weed-n-feed...

TriCountyLawn
09-13-2012, 08:49 AM
you're welcome... ;)

do you have any comments regarding my questions ?


Lesco was helpful with getting me started on my own property as did picking the people I sub out my fert to brains non stop. Using a sub also pretty well painted a picture of the market as well. So look at the bill and know what it takes in materials and I kinda put 2 and 2 together.

BROWNS LAWN CARE
09-13-2012, 01:42 PM
thank you tricounty...

i guess i figured some markup would be in order due to me driving, spending money and time to buy the fertilizer, but as some others on another site said. i can mark up labor a bit for that, but you don't want the customer see you charged them more for fertilizing then they could have bought it for...

i guess the key is how you itemize your invoice ;)

TriCountyLawn
09-13-2012, 02:10 PM
I wouldn't itemize the invoice with separate labor and materials. Give them the per app price and they dont know which cost what.

LawnMan19
09-13-2012, 03:58 PM
I wouldn't itemize the invoice with separate labor and materials. Give them the per app price and they dont know which cost what.

I agree just a per app price would work best for you.

BROWNS LAWN CARE
09-14-2012, 10:14 AM
thanks guys, makes sense to me...

Premiumlawns
01-02-2014, 10:04 AM
I don't know if you have found where to get your texas applicators license yet. If you haven't the link is
http://agrilife.org/aes/
you click "What License do I need" and go from there. Hope this helps.