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MXHalofan
09-29-2012, 11:19 AM
Never used one but curious if they are better than a regular verticutter. I've seen a couple Lesco power seeders with Honda engines around that use hydro power to move. Really like some feedback about slit seeders and if they can replace a good verticutter. I vcut many 5-9k sq ft lawns and would love to upgrade.

How much slower than a 18" billygoat vcutter are they? (4.5hp robin)
How well do they turn on the smaller properties? Lots of turning involved for me.

I was mainly wanting to upgrade the verticutting action and not concerned about the seeding so much.

Here's one I'm looking at
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y281/popper357/lescoseeder.jpg

nickslawnltd
09-29-2012, 12:13 PM
I recently traded an old walk behind that we didn't use for a Ryan Mattaway seeder. It's a big machine, I haven't personally used it but a friend in the biz has used it for the past week. He said it seems to do a nice job but its a beast of a machine for smaller properties and tough on hills. I will be using it this week and be able to update you

MXHalofan
09-29-2012, 03:08 PM
Yea, let me know how it works out. I've called a local to test out a machine so maybe I'll find out for myself soon.

RABBITMAN11
09-29-2012, 03:11 PM
Buy the toro slit seeder. Youll never look back. Best seeder out there.
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RigglePLC
09-30-2012, 06:57 PM
The big question here is does a slit seeder produce better results than aeration? Or vertical mowing? Better than broadcast? If so, how much better?
Opinion? Does it matter what type of seed you are using? What condition should the old turf be? What is the best method in your part of the country?

ron mexico75
10-01-2012, 11:14 AM
Buy the toro slit seeder. Youll never look back. Best seeder out there.
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I haven't used either. But word is, this is the best one out there.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbNjnEQ-3uA

Smallaxe
10-02-2012, 10:20 AM
The big question here is does a slit seeder produce better results than aeration? Or vertical mowing? Better than broadcast? If so, how much better?
Opinion? Does it matter what type of seed you are using? What condition should the old turf be? What is the best method in your part of the country?

Slit-seeders on open ground works great, as many of us have seen, I'm sure... where the results are inconsistant is through existing turf... there are so many different conditions in which a seeder may work well in one existing lawn and completely fail in another...
The aerator is much more consistant in that, dollhair effect is all it can produce... :)

MXHalofan
10-02-2012, 10:56 AM
I haven't used either. But word is, this is the best one out there.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbNjnEQ-3uA

That's what I need. Thanks

TMlawncare
10-02-2012, 09:44 PM
Buy the toro slit seeder. Youll never look back. Best seeder out there.
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The toros and exmarks are not available as of yet. Better find a lawn solutions model. We tried to buy one last month.

MXHalofan
10-03-2012, 08:49 PM
Yea, called LS twice during business hours and left two messages LOL. Guess they are busy. I can't find pricing info. Anyone know what these things run? Prolly want the 9 or 13 HP unit.

turtle
10-08-2012, 01:35 AM
I think LawnSolutions sold out to Toro. Lesco was bought out by John Deere. The company I worked for had 2 Lesco s, the last time we ordered new blades for it the dealer wanted $200 a set. Don't believe me, check for yourself.

nickslawnltd
10-08-2012, 03:11 AM
Well used the Mattaway this week on quite a few properties. It's a brute of a machine. Seemed to do a nice job but not a machine you want to run all day in tight spots. We used to aerate and then broadcast spread the seed with decent results so I will have to see what kind of results I get now

EquityGreen
10-10-2012, 09:44 PM
If you can find a good lawn solution machine the 13hp models are the only way to go commercially speaking. I have 3 of them and put them to good use year after year. Lawn solutions sold out to toro and they are only making the 20 inch machines which are almost useless IMO the smaller 6.5hp machines are under powered and doesn't do as much area. I did a 8k fresh lawn today that had a ton of clumps from the sprinkler guys laying pipe and you cannot tell they were there. It's a bit late to seed but we will see how it turns out.
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MXHalofan
10-10-2012, 10:35 PM
Thanks Equity, I'll be looking for one!

corey4671
10-10-2012, 11:05 PM
I was set to buy one of the Exmark(LS) units, then my dealer suggested this..

http://www.billygoat.com/Product-Categories/Detail/os900-series-hydrostatic-sp-overseeder

Bought it...been impressed.

Snyder's Lawn Inc
10-10-2012, 11:38 PM
The big question here is does a slit seeder produce better results than aeration? Or vertical mowing? Better than broadcast? If so, how much better?
Opinion? Does it matter what type of seed you are using? What condition should the old turf be? What is the best method in your part of the country?

I found out the best way slit seed is
1- thatch lawn with power rake one way
2 slit seed with out seed different way
3 sweep thatch up
4 broadcast 1/2 of the seed Apply Lime and Fertilizer
5 slit seed with the other 1/2 of the seed amount

I found this works with better results vs just slit seeding
To me seems leaving thatch and rains on it, The thatch mats back down seals up

I get under bid on lot of jobs but in long run people learns you get what you pay for
Im only one around here that gives a warranty Slit seeding I give 90 day and New Lawns I give 1 year

MXHalofan
10-11-2012, 02:00 AM
Hey Corey, how does that overseeder maneuver? I've been looking for demo video but only found the Billygoat promo, which doesn't show much actual maneuvering. LOL

I do a bunch of 5k-7k properties and need something like the Lawn Solutions Revitalizer as far as maneuverability.

Also how come no on wants the 20in models? Too small to get work done fast? How does the Billygoat compare to the Lawn Solutions for speed? Sorry for all the questions, after this year of killing myself, hoping I can still have children.

corey4671
10-11-2012, 09:39 AM
I rented a lawn solutions unit a couple of years ago and honestly, the similarities are quite striking. It almost feels like the same machine. The seed box isn't quite as big as the ls. However, after two seasons of running a non self propelled unit, it was a huge relief. There is also a sulky option for larger yards
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varnerslawnservice
10-14-2012, 06:26 PM
After having my mind set on the Ryan Mattaway seeder then reading how much of a beast it is I purchased the billy goat hydro drive overseeder and it is a great machine, easy to maneuver in tight areas and big enough to get jobs done quick, i seeded 20+ yards ranging from 2500 to 12000 square ft and the germination and establishment has been awesome. Billy Goat gets my vote. I am able to 2 pass a 7500sq ft yard in a little bit over an hour.

MXHalofan
10-14-2012, 07:02 PM
After having my mind set on the Ryan Mattaway seeder then reading how much of a beast it is I purchased the billy goat hydro drive overseeder and it is a great machine, easy to maneuver in tight areas and big enough to get jobs done quick, i seeded 20+ yards ranging from 2500 to 12000 square ft and the germination and establishment has been awesome. Billy Goat gets my vote. I am able to 2 pass a 7500sq ft yard in a little bit over an hour.

Sound good, Thanks. Do you know how well it does with a single pass and how widely spaced the blades are? Also how much seed do these units need to seed a 7500 ft sq lawn with fescue? Thanks for the info. Glad to see the good feedback on the Billy Goat. They are manufactured locally in Kansas City, I like my BG verticutter, and these units are available on ebay. Seems like the LS ones aren't easy to get. Thanks

varnerslawnservice
10-14-2012, 07:17 PM
The blades are 2 inches apart, I seed here in ky at 6lbs/1000 with my machine then use my broadcast tho put a little more on over the top for perfect coverage. I single passed my yards with great turf and the machine still gave excellent results, for the low maint. yards with crabgrass the double pass pulled up much of the crabgrass and i swept it off. My routine for a double pass on a yard with alot of thatch is 1)slit seed with seed one direction 2)sweep with my pull behind sweeper 3)slit seed other direction with seed 4)sweep again 5)broadcast to ensure complete coverage. I get great results using LESCO/JD 3 way Tall Fescue blend in 10-12 days on about every yard which makes the customer very happy. I screened the first load of thatch we took off and only found <.5 lb of seed in the thatch so the double sweeping isnt taking much seed up at all.

MXHalofan
10-14-2012, 11:32 PM
Thanks varners! Sounds good. I bet those customers love you! I really need to upgrade my machine. It's too much work to vcut both ways with my vcutter.