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stevin
10-02-2012, 02:07 PM
i overseeded labor day weekend and overseeded a few areas that still looked thin last weekend. the lawn is coming in beautifully but the last 5 days have been raining on and off, no sun, very cool and even coolerat night. this morning i noticed a couple of spots of red thread which i recognized because i dealt with it in the spring. i aplied milorganite to the areas with red thread and that took care of it. could i do the same now even thou i just recently overseeded. or maybe even apply some starter fertilizer?

Smallaxe
10-03-2012, 03:37 AM
Does the soil drain OK???

humble1
10-03-2012, 05:46 AM
i overseeded labor day weekend and overseeded a few areas that still looked thin last weekend. the lawn is coming in beautifully but the last 5 days have been raining on and off, no sun, very cool and even coolerat night. this morning i noticed a couple of spots of red thread which i recognized because i dealt with it in the spring. i aplied milorganite to the areas with red thread and that took care of it. could i do the same now even thou i just recently overseeded. or maybe even apply some starter fertilizer?

Hit it w fert and it will push out, red threads not a root killer
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stevin
10-03-2012, 11:18 AM
Thank you.

Mark Oomkes
10-03-2012, 03:39 PM
Not sure what drainage has to do with red thread, but whatever.

humble1 has great advice.

Smallaxe
10-04-2012, 09:03 AM
Not sure what drainage has to do with red thread...

I'm positive you meant that sincerely... I'm sure that many Pros haven't a clue how one affests another... I understand that most 'pros' don't grasp the relationship between the environment, soil and plant disease...

Squirt&Fert Rules... :)

Smallaxe
10-04-2012, 09:17 AM
Treat the problem or treat the symptom... I found some good websites that discuss in a bit of detail some of the issues that cause the red thread to occur... It would be worth looking into if one wanted to understand why a particular lawn is more susceptible to the disease than another...

The band-aid approach, the window dressing approach, the superficial solution is what politicians repeat over and over to suckers and that seems to satisfy the problems, until the next time,,, but Professional LCOs need to have a better understanding of the real world of living things... botany is not learned about in the 30 second soundbites between commercials, the way gov't is learned about; botany requires thought... :)

Mark Oomkes
10-04-2012, 09:31 AM
O most wizened one, way to not answer the question.

If you want to solve red thread issues, don't use grass varieties that are susceptible to red thread.

Right plant, right place.

You don't plant a cattail in the middle of the desert or a cactus in a swamp.

Smallaxe
10-04-2012, 09:44 AM
The whole is greater than the sum of its parts... pick and choose which parts you want to address, sit down and watch Dancing on TV,,, your job is done... so am I... :)

turfmd101
10-04-2012, 02:01 PM
smallaxe is only hard to understand if your just a licensed applicator and not a licensed technician.

Most people get their license so they "can do" applications.
Few get their license because at some point, they're going to "have" to apply something requiring it.

What smallaxe is saying is. A licensed "technician" knows how "not to get" something like Large Patch, but also knows if it occurs there is something to apply that will help to "control" it.

Now a licensed "applicator" pretty much just knows how to apply products. Not how to apply horticulture.

If you don't have a horticultural understanding of the environment. Then you will only always be a licensed "applicator" always applying something other than knowledge and understanding...
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Mark Oomkes
10-04-2012, 02:41 PM
smallaxe has also made many statements that are less than accurate and that he can't back up. Just take a look at the number of other members who have taken him to task on his posts and he never answers them.

So, I ask, please inform us specifically how drainage issues result in red thread. And how turf in any type soil can have red thread? Because I love to learn, and if there's a new to me method of controlling red thread, I would love to hear it. I just haven't. Nor have any of the universities that I have checked.

And if you don't think that my post implies I don't have an understanding of the environment, then you can enlighten me as well. Because, there are many varieties of turf that are resistant to red thread, and some that are extremely susceptible to it.

So smallaxe, will you share your special knowledge?

turfmd101
10-04-2012, 07:40 PM
I think because a susceptible turf doesn't get it because its simply susceptible. Certain environmental conditions or certain cultural practices cause fungus. Its not the result of a certain plant species.

Since fungus never seems to form in dry conditions. Over wet conditions such as a poorly drained area are prime for fungus vs an area of good drainage. Poor drainage could be a area that hasn't gotten water in several days but still remains saturated. This will set the stage for fungus first and foremost.

It's pretty obvious that poor draining areas greatly increase the chance of all fungus varieties regardless of the plant variety in the same location. Areas that drain well and dry well most likely won't have fungus because it can't ignite in dry conditions.
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Smallaxe
10-05-2012, 05:48 PM
smallaxe has also made many statements that are less than accurate and that he can't back up. Just take a look at the number of other members who have taken him to task on his posts and he never answers them.

So, I ask, please inform us specifically how drainage issues result in red thread. And how turf in any type soil can have red thread? Because I love to learn, and if there's a new to me method of controlling red thread, I would love to hear it. I just haven't. Nor have any of the universities that I have checked.

And if you don't think that my post implies I don't have an understanding of the environment, then you can enlighten me as well. Because, there are many varieties of turf that are resistant to red thread, and some that are extremely susceptible to it.

So smallaxe, will you share your special knowledge?

I generally do a google search for specifics about some things to see what others are saying,,, and the second site I came across mentioned drainage as one of the things to investigate... I don't really care that you don't see the connection between,,, ground that doesn't dry out very well, and how it is more susceptible to fungal diseases...
Drainage is a problem for lots of issues, including root development... do some research of your own, because pretty soon you're not going to have seed resistant to something and you'll have to actually deal with soil texture and structure,,, oh my... let's attack the guy who talks about soil texture and structure... :laugh: