View Full Version : Whats my next step to a beautiful lawn

10-05-2012, 07:44 AM
Charlotte NC lawn

Ok so we bought our home in march and the lawn was kinda sorta ok
it has existing fescue was thin in some places and a million dandelions
or whatever those small white flowers that pop up

so I did some research on here tested my soil and put down the proper amount of lime per my local soil dept suggestion. I then "waited" for labor day

once labor day hit I core aerated my lawn, went over it almost 3 times
I broadcast about 8lbs of high quality John Deere Seed and Lesco starter fertilizer from John Deere landscapes as directed.

It has been 3-4 weeks now and I want to be prepared for my next step

When do I need to start spraying for broadleaves?
What other applications are coming due

thanks so much!

10-05-2012, 08:25 AM
From what I've read and what I've done in the past you aren't supposed to put out any herbicides until the new fescue is established and have mowed atleast twice and the correct height. (atleast 3"). When I seed fescue in the fall I just aerate, seed, starter fert, and maybe another fert app in nov. and then that's it until I put out dimension or barricade in Feb. and then a spring fert app in March or early April.

10-06-2012, 08:24 AM
OK I just kinda want a guideline to follow.
Spending too much money on this project to mess it up ;-0

10-06-2012, 12:34 PM
Don't put any pre-em until the grass has grown and the thickness of the fescue is full. Pre-em will fry tiny hair roots that are feeding the plants. Let it go weeds and all till Mid-May and then use a light application of weed control. Probably T-Zone will get rid of most weeds, but something stronger will probably be needed later. After grass is growing well, switch to a good balanced fertilize with a bit heavier on the potassium (3rd number) and potassium. We want the roots to be strong. A fertilize with micro nutrients should be a priority. Look for about two years to get that carpet look and of course you'll need to irrigate somehow/someway as you will never have a beautiful lawn without a proper watering cycle.

10-06-2012, 09:15 PM
Let me repeat this for you one more time. "No herbicide's until spring 2013" There are chemistry's that allow you to apply a pre-emergent closer to seeding but require more money, precise measuring and precise application.
If you want a nice lawn, have patience, your best defense against weed's is a healthy stand of grass.

10-07-2012, 11:18 AM
Next time around, if you got a million weeds, you might spray them out before you over seed.

10-07-2012, 01:08 PM
Next time around, if you got a million weeds, you might spray them out before you over seed.

I had considered that but I have a goooood amount of existing fescue and kinda already had a head start. its just laced with those stupid small white flowers

10-07-2012, 03:47 PM
Something with a small, white flower is not a dandelion. Can you post a picture ?

10-13-2012, 12:15 AM
I have identified it as white clover

sorry dont know why dandelion popped into my head

its DEF white clover and when they bloom there are a crapload in my grass

10-13-2012, 12:18 AM
If you have clover it's a pretty good indication of nitrogen deficiency
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10-14-2012, 10:30 AM
ok I have addresses the lime and I put down starter fertilizer 3-4 weeks ago when I seeded

It seems IM to fertilize again in mid november?

10-14-2012, 12:53 PM
You need to start thinking of fertilizer in term's of pound's of nitrogen applied per 1000 sq. ft. You put down what? 1/2 - 3/4 of a lb. of N per 1000. Shoot for adding 1 lb. of nitrogen per 1000 sq. ft. by mid-November. You can split those application's in two. If you don't have irrigation that's a good idea, fertilizer need's to be watered in. You don't need or want to fertilize again until next April.

10-14-2012, 02:45 PM
I had my soil tested before I started at all

here are the results

since then I put down Lesco Professional Starter fertilizer 18-24-12
at the rate the bag suggested it was a 4 1/2 setting on my scotts spreader

10-14-2012, 03:30 PM
sorry gave wrong numbers above it was 14-20-4 professional fertilizer by Lesco
thats what the guys recommended

12-05-2012, 08:54 PM
things going as scheduled today I applied a high nitrogen fertilizer as directed

when will I address the yellow spots

is that bermuda or dead fescue or what?

12-05-2012, 09:03 PM
The key to growing fescue in the South is cut it high and bag it after the last frost, never cut it when its wet. Keep the leaves off it.

Then every labor day you get to overseed it.

12-05-2012, 10:01 PM
I would imagine you are seeing patch's of dormant bermuda. Can you post a picture ?