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david bailey
10-10-2012, 01:19 AM
I'm thinking about a KX-121. with a hyd thumb and a angle blade. I'll probably buy used so I'll be looking for the best deal. I could get 0% on a new one but I might be inclined to overspend on other goodies for the machine.
I like this size and it has more pwer than a KX91.

I do swimming pool construction,trash and debris removal,grading and drainage.
I like the Kubota line. I own 3 other Kubota tractors-B-26,L-440,grand L 4240,plus a Takeuchi 140. I also have a pretty nice f-750 dump truck

Thoughts on this machine and what other accessories?
I'm in Raleigh NC,where we hardly have winter,hot as hell summers and this year a lot of rain.

AWJ Services
10-10-2012, 01:35 AM
I'm thinking about a KX-121. with a hyd thumb and a angle blade. I'll probably buy used so I'll be looking for the best deal. I could get 0% on a new one but I might be inclined to overspend on other goodies for the machine.
I like this size and it has more pwer than a KX91.

I do swimming pool construction,trash and debris removal,grading and drainage.
I like the Kubota line. I own 3 other Kubota tractors-B-26,L-440,grand L 4240,plus a Takeuchi 140. I also have a pretty nice f-750 dump truck

Thoughts on this machine and what other accessories?
I'm in Raleigh NC,where we hardly have winter,hot as hell summers and this year a lot of rain.

If your going used get a KX-161. The 121 has too much overhang and not enough reach.

david bailey
10-10-2012, 07:51 AM
what about lift? I've heard the reason they phased out the 161 was to increase its lift. doesn't the 161 have as much overhang?

AWJ Services
10-10-2012, 10:53 AM
what about lift? I've heard the reason they phased out the 161 was to increase its lift. doesn't the 161 have as much overhang?

No, The 161 has less over hang from the side. It's replacement the 057 has a too much overhang like the 121. The 161 was an in between machine and was phased out for the new U55 which is a true ZTS. On lift not really sure what a 6 ton machine should lift but I have moved a bunch of rocks in the 3k range when building water gardens. You need a machine with little or no over hang unless you only work out in the open 100% of the time. There was a post about the KX057 earlier in the year and pictures where posted about the overhang and difference between it and the 161.

AEL
10-10-2012, 01:15 PM
I own 3 kubota excavators (kx71,u55,and a u17) I wouldn't hesitate to buy another One whatsoever .
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4 seasons lawn&land
10-10-2012, 08:25 PM
I see a helluva lot of 121's around here. People seem to like the size but most have larger machines too. The 161 is a big jump in size/weight but I like mine. Its a perfect all around size.

david bailey
10-10-2012, 08:33 PM
I'm looking at using this as an all around machine. Thats why I have been interested in the 121. It's a 9k machine and might be easier to use in a tight enviroment compared to the 161 or a U 45. You might havea different opinion tho so I'm all ears,er eyes in this case.

I have a B 26 with a backhoe so a smaller machine I have. I like the idea of the strength of the 10k-12k units but worry about being able to get into the job. I have the equipment and CDL for moving bigger toys so should I consider the U 45 or 161 or even a U 55?

Is a 55,161 that much stronger than a 121,U45? I'll probably use it a lot for stumps,clearing yard waste and construction debris and doing drainage. I might try to do some mowing with it too if I can develop that line of work with it. If I'm buying one I want to make sure I have plenty of options as to the type of work I can do with it. The reason I've looked at used is primarily the fact I don't load any of my equipment up with hours and the intial costs altho 0% financing is attractive.

4 seasons lawn&land
10-10-2012, 10:05 PM
I cant see your jobs so its hard to say whats best. Knowing what the right size is, is all about experience. but I find the reach to make it so I have to move around alot less which makes less impact than a smaller machine would.

heres mine inside a pool area.

david bailey
10-10-2012, 10:39 PM
how do you like having a cab? My tak 140 has air/heat and so does my 4240 grand L. I lke the facrt it cuts down on the bugs and dust but does that apply to an excavator?

I'm gonna have to start uploading some pics of my jobsites

4 seasons lawn&land
10-10-2012, 10:49 PM
The cab is pretty important for different reasons than the skid. With the mini you sit right on top of the motor and pumps which throw some serious heat. Of course without the cab that heat dicipates quickly. The A/C/heat is nice for me doing clearing work when its cold but you dont have to worry about that as much

david bailey
10-10-2012, 10:55 PM
what buckets do you have and what do you use the most? do you have other options on your 161? I was watching the vids with the E50 and that angle head. that would be nice when doing a drainge ditch

4 seasons lawn&land
10-10-2012, 11:18 PM
just a 12" trenching and the 24. It has a hyd. thumb, aux hydraulics for attachments (never used one), and auto idle. I wouldnt buy an excavator any size without a hyd thumb.

Angle head? You mean a wrist bucket? You can get one of those for any machine.

AEL
10-10-2012, 11:27 PM
I have a wedge coupler, Hyd thumb, extra set of lines plumbed , cab and heat, 24 and 36 inch buckets.
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scagrider22
10-11-2012, 12:07 AM
I'm looking at using this as an all around machine. Thats why I have been interested in the 121. It's a 9k machine and might be easier to use in a tight enviroment compared to the 161 or a U 45. You might havea different opinion tho so I'm all ears,er eyes in this case.

I have a B 26 with a backhoe so a smaller machine I have. I like the idea of the strength of the 10k-12k units but worry about being able to get into the job. I have the equipment and CDL for moving bigger toys so should I consider the U 45 or 161 or even a U 55?

Is a 55,161 that much stronger than a 121,U45? I'll probably use it a lot for stumps,clearing yard waste and construction debris and doing drainage. I might try to do some mowing with it too if I can develop that line of work with it. If I'm buying one I want to make sure I have plenty of options as to the type of work I can do with it. The reason I've looked at used is primarily the fact I don't load any of my equipment up with hours and the intial costs altho 0% financing is attractive.

A couple months ago I was looking to buy a new 121, when I demoed the machine it was very nice and smooth but the cab seemed small and outdated. When I returned the machine they had a U55 come in so I demoed it and ended up buying it. The cab is much more comfortable and the 55 has a lot more power. I got use to the extra size of the machine in a day or two and am now glad I went bigger. The minimal tail swing is also nice.

david bailey
10-11-2012, 12:32 AM
yeah but how much more mula was the U55 vs the 121? of course you want the machine to pay for it self but I'd hate the payments when things are slow

Danny Boy
10-11-2012, 12:33 AM
I have a u 15 and the 161...
I would never ever trade the 161 for a 121, I work mostly in city lots and have not found a place that it made me want a slightly smaller machine, for sure the u15 fits that need but that is way smaller.
I have an 18" a 30" and a 48" bucket for my 161, the 48 is used lots, great for back filling and loading trucks..... dont buy a 121 till you have at least tried the 161:)

AWJ Services
10-11-2012, 07:48 AM
yeah but how much more mula was the U55 vs the 121? of course you want the machine to pay for it self but I'd hate the payments when things are slow

Of course it costs more however if a couple hunderd bucks a month extra is gonna make or break you then maybe this may not be a wise purchase?
Expect to spend about 60K on the U55 and about 45k on the 121 depending on options.

Justin
10-11-2012, 10:47 PM
I have two different friends that have the 121 and the other 161. I've never noticed a place where I couldn't get the 161 vs 121. For the size a 121 is not a bad machine. Not a whole lot (to me) in power difference. If I was going to buy a kubota it would be the U57/55

AEL
10-11-2012, 11:35 PM
No u57. It is a kx 57 and u55. Kx has a few inches more reach and more counterweight(over hang).
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scagrider22
10-11-2012, 11:41 PM
Also the U55 has more break out force.
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Justin
10-11-2012, 11:50 PM
No u57. It is a kx 57 and u55. Kx has a few inches more reach and more counterweight(over hang).
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You know what I meant TSS. Thats what happens when I type to fast. My county just bought a 57 and it is nice. Beat up already. :doh

david bailey
10-13-2012, 12:56 AM
A buddy of mine called me today and wanted to know if I'd be interested in digging footers for the company he works for and maybe doing some grading and trash removal.
the work is out of town but it would be a worth it.

AEL
10-13-2012, 12:32 PM
No I apologize I didn't know what you meant.
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ConstSvcs
10-13-2012, 06:34 PM
I'll sell you my 07 121 with 700 hours...........so I can buy the U55 :)

Another happy Kubota owner here!

david bailey
11-01-2012, 10:23 PM
I rented a 121 yesterday to do some cat tail removal and we cut down 30 or so small trees and popped the stumps. This might be one reason I look at getting a 121. it fits with my little dump truck!

david bailey
11-01-2012, 10:26 PM
they had one with a thumb that would have helped a lot and it had a cab` but it was brokedown. I still want to try a 161 or U 55. I've heard some good things about the bobcat E50 too. any thoughts here or do y'all like the bota more?

scagrider22
11-01-2012, 11:18 PM
I almost bought a Bobcat before I even looked at the Kubota, Im glad I didnt! The Bobcat was very nice but I think the Kubota has more power and it is def smoother. Also Kubota had better financing at the time.

david bailey
11-02-2012, 12:06 AM
what Bota do you have?

scagrider22
11-02-2012, 12:08 AM
U55
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david bailey
11-02-2012, 12:11 AM
did you buy it new and whsat did you get on it. I liked the 121 I rented but I'd prolly like the bigger machine in the long run,especaily if i can maneuver around with it like the 121

scagrider22
11-02-2012, 12:15 AM
Yeah I bought it new with cab, heat/air, stereo, thumb, quick coupler and a few buckets.
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david bailey
11-02-2012, 12:26 AM
I'm trying to weigh buying a new U55 or used or a 121. why do you like the U55 and what type of work do you do mostly with it. I have a small backhoe(B-26) The E 50 seems to get a lot of positive reviews but I'm not much of a bobcat guy. I've already got 3 bota tractors altho I'd prolly trade my turf tractor to lessen the effect of the whopping payment.
I might be looking at doing some footer work for a builder here that would help pay for the machine plus I do some work around pool construction and I do landscaping type work as well as debris and trash removal.

AWJ Services
11-02-2012, 05:15 PM
Reach is very important in an excavator. Get the most reach possible in a foot print you can use. Usually stepping up 1 class past the U55 results an a very large machine where as the U55 is not much bigger than a 121 yet gives more reach, more digging power, and less tail swing. The only advantage of a 10k machine over the U55 is being able too tow without a CDL.

david bailey
11-02-2012, 10:43 PM
I have a class A CDL anyway and I think I'd rather have the power and reach and push. did you buy yrs new or used. I've seen a 2009 with 383 hrs for $50k with a cab,angle blade and a hammer. I'd deff have to add the thumb tho. Pricing what i would want new would run up to about $75k according to Kubota's website.
I did see today why I want a bigger machine tho. we were delivering rebar to a pool jobsite and the excavation guys unloaded it with the bucket/thumb and lifted it over the fence. Thats the kind of stuff I need a machine to do.

scagrider22
11-02-2012, 10:51 PM
Are you in Canada? I paid around 60k for my 2012 with almost every option, 75k seems high.
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david bailey
11-02-2012, 10:56 PM
that was the Kubota website pricing under "build my Kubota" My local dealer said I could prolly take off 7% of that price. I'm wanting a U55 with cab,thumb,QC and a 24,36 and prolly a 12 and a 48 also angle blade.
It kinda makes the used one I saw appealing

scagrider22
11-02-2012, 10:59 PM
What state are you in?
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david bailey
11-02-2012, 11:29 PM
raleigh north carolina

scagrider22
11-02-2012, 11:45 PM
I would check some other dealers on pricing, If you were closer I would have you contact mine.
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AEL
11-03-2012, 01:34 AM
I paid less then that for my fully loaded machine with thumb, coupler and 2 buckets. And I am in Canada. I was around 60.
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AWJ Services
11-03-2012, 09:19 AM
Canadas money is better than ours now and has been for a little while. Here we will pay more due too the exchange rate.

Expect to pay in the high 60's.

Must haves are Cab, quick coupler, hyd thumb. Best too have are dual aux lines and angle blade. The New Kubotas have dual aux lines and adjustable flow control too them so if you do decide to use the aux lines a bunch that is a bonus. The angle blade helps because sometimes the dang blade gets in your way and just being ables to move it is a bonus.

If you go used the KX161 is an excellent choice.
I have 1600 plus hours of digging 36 and 30 inch trenches with it. Had too replace bucket bushings and thats it.

ConstSvcs
11-04-2012, 10:15 PM
I had the option to add a Hydraulic thumb when I purchased my 121 but again chose a manual thumb. Removable if I choose,much tighter clamping power, less weight and no need to split aux. hydraulics.