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ryan41
10-11-2012, 01:07 PM
This will be my first year doing fall cleanups. I do not have a vac system on my mower but i do have 2 nice backpack blowers
(Echo PB-770T & Echo PB-500T). I was thinking i would charge per hour not by job. ($35-$40 an hour). Most of my lawn accounts would not need dumping i would be able to blow them onto a tarp and drag them into the wood/compost pile. Let me know what you guys think? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!!

xstatikplus
10-11-2012, 09:23 PM
we never bag or vac with our mowers. all blowers and tarps. for the account you will have to dump I have 2 suggestions 1 factor in the cost of dumping in your price of course 2 if you are piling it in your truck or trailer to take away lay out your largest tarp at the bottom before any leaves go in fill it up so far then lay down another tarp more leaves another tarp.......makes for a fast easy off load at the dump. before we got a dump trailer we used this method most times 5 or 6 tarp layers in the trailer and its easier to roll 6 tarps off the trailer rather then pitch forking the whole thing. hope the season goes well for you, good luck

xstatikplus
10-11-2012, 09:26 PM
oh and what kind of a mower do you have? if it's big enough I have a good method for moving tarps if interested

Smallaxe
10-12-2012, 10:53 AM
Don't reveal your hourly charge... I estimate in my mind the time it will take to do the job... add 50% to it that and say it shouldn't cost more than X, but most likely be closer to 'x'...
I've got those same 2 blowers... the little one was paid for in 80 hours, and the big one paid for in 50... :)

Darryl G
10-12-2012, 11:11 AM
I grind them up and bag them with my mower a lot when I have to haul them. Some get blown in bulk to the woods. Often I blow off the bulk of the leaves and then use the mowers to pick up what remains. I rarely use a tarp. It really depends on the particular property and conditions at the time....wet leaves don't mulch very well. If you need to get them to the curb for municipal pickup it's hard to beat the tarp method. Use your judgement and experiment with what works for you. I bill my regular customers hourly. One time cleanups are often done on a lump-sum basis.

recycledsole
10-12-2012, 09:47 PM
hey guys im glad this thread is here i wanted to make a similar one.
most my accounts will be small residential. how do you control the leaves with the blower? i mean the blower makes them fly all around.
what about shredder vacs? like this one http://www.stihlusa.com/products/blowers-and-shredder-vacs/shredder-vacs/sh86ce/ thanks

Darryl G
10-12-2012, 10:19 PM
If it's a small property you have to be very mindful of the wind direction and how much throttle you give the blower. I try to avoid doing really small properties when it's windy. It helps if the leaves are damp, but I wouldn't go so far as to wet them or anything. It can help to grind the leaves up a bit before blowing them...reduces the surface area and their tendency to blow into neighbors yards.

As far as the shredder vac goes, I have the Echo equivalent, the ES-2500. I only use the vac part for final detail work such as corners, window wells and getting stubborn leaves out of shrubbery and ground cover. I would not recommend one as a primary cleanup tool...just too slow. The hand blower portion can be useful for small jobs too though.

MOW ED
10-13-2012, 04:58 PM
Ryan get a set of gator blades for your machine and a chute blocker and mulch the crap out of the leaves you have. Tarping and blowing are effective but time consuming. You can also tarp and drag with the mower but once again it takes time and effort. Grinding moderate amounts of leaves is good for the lawns also and if you do have thicker accumulations you can use your backpack blower to disperse them. You will have to spend a little for the blades and blocker but you will reduce the volume of leaves by 80 to 90%. If you are handy you can fab your own blocker out of steel and save the cost. It just has to flop in front of your discharge. You will feel better at the end of the day and you will make more money for time spent which is the name of the game.

THIESSENS TLC
10-14-2012, 10:02 AM
Im also interested in this thread, I just picked up a new BR600 for leaves this year, as this is also my first year doing leaves. I plan on blowing them onto a tarp and dragging to my truck, but my question is...do you guys wait until all the leaves drop or continue with the weekly service? I will also be charging an hourly rate (with 1hr minimum) for X amount plus dump fees etc.

Darryl G
10-14-2012, 10:16 AM
Hauling leaves in bulk in a pickup truck doesn't work that well in my opinion. They just fill up the truck too fast = multiple trips. Yeah you can stomp them down but that takes time too.

THIESSENS TLC
10-14-2012, 01:40 PM
Hauling leaves in bulk in a pickup truck doesn't work that well in my opinion. They just fill up the truck too fast = multiple trips. Yeah you can stomp them down but that takes time too.

unfortunately, thats all i have is my pickup. i wish i had a brimar dump trailer, but even then i would need a 2500 to pull it without killin my truck! i think if i get them every week, it shouldnt be too bad.

H & M Yard Improvements
10-21-2012, 04:22 PM
hey guys im glad this thread is here i wanted to make a similar one.
most my accounts will be small residential. how do you control the leaves with the blower? i mean the blower makes them fly all around.
what about shredder vacs? like this one http://www.stihlusa.com/products/blowers-and-shredder-vacs/shredder-vacs/sh86ce/ thanks

Good for a homeowner that has nothing to do all day on a Saturday or Sunday. If you're trying to make money, no way!

xstatikplus
10-22-2012, 03:38 PM
Agreed with tossing leaves in the dump of a truck but a regular open trailer say 7x12 foot you'd be surprised how much leaves you can fit in if you build the walls and front up level with the tailgate when it's up......layer about 7 tarps, tarp on bottom leaves, tarp, leaves, tarp, leaves.....for easy and fast off loads at the dump. We used this method until we got a hydraulic dump trailer.
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Darryl G
10-22-2012, 08:33 PM
I built a 4 foot tall leaf box on the front of my open trailer my first year, when all I had was my 48 inch walk behind. I used the tarp layer method too.