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Boaz
10-13-2012, 10:20 PM
As I scour craigslist for a work truck, I see some good deals on the older Ford 300 inline six cylinder trucks and the work truck trimmed out newer 4.2L V-6 F150's. I am going to run a 10 foot enclosed trailer as a solo outfit with one Zturn, a push and trimmer/blower and tools etc. I WANT a diesel truck even thought I KNOW I don't NEED one at this stage in the game. I know I will probably upgrade in the future, so I keep going back and forth on this... $1500-$3K gets a nice used 6 banger F150, or spend $5k-$9k on a higher mileage 7.3L Powerstroke or a Cummins. Either way, I need a long bed and 2WD for the area I am in.

So how many folks are happy campers running 6 cylinder trucks for the towing rig? Any regrets? Did you install bigger transmission coolers to help out with longevity? Thanks for any input. I apologize if this has been covered, I didn't see much when I searched.

knox gsl
10-13-2012, 10:27 PM
Get the 6 cylinder and save some cash. I'm running an 85 dodge d150 with a 318 (V6 Power level) and it pulls my 16' trailer easily as long as I keep it under 7K. To many big ego guys out there getting a 1ton to do a 1/2 tons job just to get a big truck.

Boaz
10-13-2012, 10:30 PM
Ok. I found a 300 inline 6 local in decent shape for $1500. I might go look at it tomorrow.

knox gsl
10-13-2012, 10:39 PM
That ford 300 has more pulling torque than the 302 v8.

S&M Landscapes
10-13-2012, 10:43 PM
I have an 89'hour f150 with the i6, and i absolutely love it. Has great torque and is a tuff truck.
I added some 250trades leaf springs and i pull a 14' enclosed or a 16' utility daily with 2 scag ztrs.

With a 10' you will love it.

Get a trailer with brakes if possible.
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Boaz
10-13-2012, 10:44 PM
I have an 89'hour f150 with the i6, and i absolutely love it. Has great torque and is a tuff truck.
I added some 250trades leaf springs and i pull a 14' enclosed or a 16' utility daily with 2 scag ztrs.

With a 10' you will love it.

Get a trailer with brakes if possible.
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Auto or manual? The one in question has a manual..

C Jovingo Landscaping
10-13-2012, 10:48 PM
I started with '94 F-150 300 inline 6 short bed with almost 200,000 miles. I put 2X10" side boards on it & 1500LB helper springs & hauled 3 yards of mulch all the time with no problem! Great truck, still have as backup!
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S&M Landscapes
10-13-2012, 10:53 PM
Boaz, mine is an auto, but i would prefer a manual.

You wont be dissapointed!
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Boaz
10-13-2012, 11:08 PM
This is motivating. I am bootstrapping this business and its good to hear 6 cylinders can get the job done!
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S&M Landscapes
10-13-2012, 11:32 PM
There is a whole heap a' difference between a v-6, and a inline6.

I plan on buying another one.
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Shawn S
10-14-2012, 12:16 AM
Our "usual" mowing truck is a 05 Silverado with a 4.3L v6 and auto trans. It pulls a 10x6 open trailer that weighs 1,050 lbs. On the trailer is a JD 647A that weighs 1,014 lbs, a Honda commercial push, two Stihl Kombi's, a Stihl blower, 5 gallon gas can, 2.5 gallon gas can, and racks for everything. We haven't had any problems. I wouldn't go 80 mph with this combination, but it gets us around town and to the next town over which is 5 miles of highway.

Our leaf cleanup truck is a 67 Chevy C30 with a 292 inline 6 and a 4-speed, but that isn't even in the same realm. That truck could pull a barn over.

Deori
10-14-2012, 03:29 AM
I've been running a 2001 with the 4.2 the last ten years. Bought it with 15K miles on it, it's now at 188K. It's been a VERY reliable truck. I did replace the transmission at 150K which I don't think is too bad for a work truck and that's pretty much the only repair it's ever had. I pull a semi-open 5X10 which loaded up weighs about 2500#. It wouldn't be able to hang too well in the mountains but its pretty flat out here. It feels a little under powered here and there but really, it gets the job done just fine. It is an auto trans. I've also heard those older Ford inline 6s are tough as nails. Starting out I don't think you'll go wrong with a 6 banger.
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Boaz
10-14-2012, 10:43 AM
I have an 89'hour f150 with the i6, and i absolutely love it. Has great torque and is a tuff truck.
I added some 250trades leaf springs and i pull a 14' enclosed or a 16' utility daily with 2 scag ztrs.

With a 10' you will love it.

Get a trailer with brakes if possible.
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Would 320,000 miles be a concern? The engine was rebuilt at 220,000 and new clutch was installed...

CLARK LAWN
10-14-2012, 11:11 AM
If it runs good and still has decent money compression then for $1500 I would take it.

BTW semi trucks run 6 cylinders
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MR-G
10-14-2012, 11:17 AM
91-94 chevy s-10s....4.3 v-6....tow rating is just under that of the f150 v8...we have been pulling 14 ft trailers with 2 ztrs for many many years with the 6 cyl...no issures except better fuel mileage...we do also have a ford f 350...250..150...for the larger trailers. the problem with the small trucks is stopping...make sure the trailer has brakes if you use a light truck.

Boaz
10-14-2012, 11:22 AM
If it runs good and still has decent money compression then for $1500 I would take it.

BTW semi trucks run 6 cylinders
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Huh? Cylinder compression?

slowleak1
10-14-2012, 11:56 AM
If it runs good and still has decent money compression then for $1500 I would take it.

BTW semi trucks run 6 cylinders
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Comparing a 6 cylinder 8.3 litre diesel to a 6 cylinder gasser is like comparing apples and oranges. 450 hp and 900 ft lbs of torque compared to maybe 150 hp/tq.

And what is money compression?

Boaz
10-14-2012, 11:58 AM
And what is money compression?


The relationship of $$ in your wallet to money going into your diesel engine...I think...lol...

I kid I kid!

CLARK LAWN
10-14-2012, 12:25 PM
Oopps auto spell on the phone added that. Cylinder compression.


8.3 is a small diesel most trucks running 11&13 liters
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knox gsl
10-14-2012, 01:10 PM
Oopps auto spell on the phone added that. Cylinder compression.


8.3 is a small diesel most trucks running 11&13 liters
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My first truck had a 14.7 liter with 525 hp and 1650 lbs of torque. The second one had a 15.2 liter 475 hp and 1800 lbs of torque. But talking about that inline 300, it will pull similar to a diesel and will not like being reved high.

CLARK LAWN
10-14-2012, 02:43 PM
My first truck had a 14.7 liter with 525 hp and 1650 lbs of torque. The second one had a 15.2 liter 475 hp and 1800 lbs of torque. But talking about that inline 300, it will pull similar to a diesel and will not like being reved high.
Must have been Cats, think they the only one making a 15L.
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Pressedun
10-14-2012, 03:04 PM
My back up truck (which I used for 2 years pulling a trailer) is a 2005 Silverado with 4.3L manual and it'll pull a 6x10 trailer with 2 walk behinds without much trouble. Sure it feels it going up hill but it does the trick when I need it to.

Kelly's Landscaping
10-14-2012, 04:02 PM
Yea I was gona say big trucks have 6 cylinders too my ram 4500s are 6 cylinders. And they tow 7000-10000 pound trailers with ease.

knox gsl
10-14-2012, 04:33 PM
Must have been Cats, think they the only one making a 15L.
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14.7 was a DD series 60 the other was a C15 cat, I like the series 60 better for the big hills out west, it had a wider power band but the cat is better on the east coast driving.

Boaz
10-14-2012, 05:18 PM
6 cylinder gas engines.... I did not specify earlier.
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tnmtn
10-14-2012, 09:19 PM
the 300 six has been around for a long time. it could be one of the best engines they built.

Hawkshot99
10-14-2012, 11:37 PM
I drive a Honda Ridgeline with a six cylinder. Tows my 10 ft enclosed with a 48" walk behind and push mower plus accessoies easily.
I just hate driveing full sizes.
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PLS-Tx
10-15-2012, 12:42 AM
I had a 95 F-150 with the inline 6. It was a great truck, pulled a 16' open trailer for several years with it.

With one Ztr it did great, with two it struggled a bit. Very dependable truck!!
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smitty's lawncare
10-16-2012, 08:26 PM
i roll solo with a 2005 gmc sierra with the 4.3 v6 5 speed. i love my truck to death. i work out of it and it is also my daily driver. it pulls my 10ft trailer with a scag 36'' wb, velky, toro push mower, husquvarna blower and shindaiwa weeeater with absolutely no problem. i believe a v6 makes for a perfect work truck because it is easy on gas and matinence is very easy. i do all my own mechanic work on my equipment as well as on my truck and im sure others can agree with me when i say a 4.3 v6 is about the easiest engine to work on as well as one of the most reliable engines out there. i also would suggest a manual transmission because it pulls the best and it helps out with gas mileage. hope this comes in handy! take care!

tbambersvc
10-17-2012, 08:49 AM
I'm towing with an '11 F150 with the Ecoboost 3.5l engine. While the engine has a ton of power and tows the trailer (8x10 aluminum) with the mowers or 2 utility quads on it with ease, the gas mileage sucks, like 10mpg sucks. I think that has to do with the 3.31 gearing out back, but not sure. Great truck, hell of a lot nicer inside than my Dodge was.

BaxtersEssentialLawnCare
10-17-2012, 09:42 AM
For your size trailer a 6 will be fine. I would say stay with a fullsize don't go midsize, just b/c of breaking. I run a 1500 silvy 5.3 v8 and with a 16 open one ztrone wb plus handhelds & the rest it is matched up well. When I had a 5X12 single with a ztr didn't know it was there so you will be ok. Where in GA are you? If your upstate with more mountians then your gonna want some more hp, down on the coast not so much. I will say there may not be much trade off on gas 8 to a 6. I get 15mpg no trailer with the 5x12 loaded I got 15mpg the truck had enough power to not loose mpg with the load. A 6 might not be that way, just food for thought. As a point of intrest in my current set-up I get 10 mpg.

thecuttingedgelawn
10-17-2012, 04:55 PM
Depending on your circumstances, I would try to get a diesel if you could find one reasonable enough. The late 90's Fords are good, still are able to get the Turbo 7.3L after 1994 1/2 I believe and they are good trucks as my bro in law had one. Diesels go forever and they will never starve for power. One that has 100,000-130,000 miles on it used is just getting broken in and if you take care of it will go for another 200,000, your V6 wont do that especially if your pulling things. I have a 2000 F250 7.3L with a 6 spd manual and I pull lots of things including my landscape trailer, haul farm equipment, and whatnot, and it pulls anything I put behind it. Of course I started out with an 88 Dodge Dakota Sport with the 3.9 High Output V6. That worked for the time being, however if I had to do it over again I would've tried to get a F250 Diesel if I could. Mine just turned over 200,000 and runs just like it did when I bought it with 120,000 on it and the only thing I've replaced is the water pump and I did that myself. Plus if your concerned about mileage, Diesel is also the way to go. A V6 can get good mileage without towing anything, but soon as you starting towing things your mileage takes a huge hit...with a Diesel it pretty much stays the same unless your pulling ALOT, maybe only loose 2-4 mpg. I have done a few modifications to my truck so when I'm not pulling anything I get 22 mpg ( helps to have 373 gears instead of 410s and the 6 spd.) But when I start hauling stuff I still get 19 or so. I would say one of the only drawbacks to having a diesel is when it comes to repairs like major stuff, it is a fair amount more and they are a bit more to buy initially. However, my thought is by the time you make repairs and or account for possible overworking it, or spending money to upgrade things so that you don't overwork it, you could afford a diesel. I wouldn't constantly like the worry of when something is going to go on your V6 either...Diesel is kindof peace of mind for me. That's my 2 cents worth, not telling you what to do, just what I've experienced, hope that helps a bit.

32vld
10-17-2012, 07:56 PM
A diesel costs more to maintain, most people can't repair them themselves, and diesel fuel costs a lot.

Most LCO's I see are not pulling that much weight to need a SPC (diesel).

I started with a wrangler TJ unlimited (long wheel base) I run it with the side curtains off all season. So the extra length makes the rear of the jeep as a short PU bed.

It has a 4.0 straight 6 with a 6 spd manual. I have pulled 2,500 lbs with no problem. The jeep is rated to tow 3,500 lbs. A large and small mower and hand helds are not going to weigh more then 2,500 lbs.

thecuttingedgelawn
10-17-2012, 11:17 PM
Depending on what Brand and models of equipment he's pulling, He's probably got at least 2500lbs or so in the equipment he listed including trailer. Too much more equipment, I would recommend a gas V8. For what he's pulling he probably will be alright with a V6, but if he expands much, a gas V8 or maybe even a Diesel later on....I would figure out what everything your hauling weighs and check the payload of your pulling vehicle and make sure everything adds up before making a decision.

Boaz
10-17-2012, 11:34 PM
That is kinda the problem. I have a 2012 Toyota 4 Runner that is rated for towing 5000 lbs. I might just get my trailer and start acquiring equipment. As of now I just have trimmer and edger and blower. I looked at two more V-6 trucks today, but didnt think they would cut the mustard. Since I am buying the equipment used, price really dictates what I get. I will probably at least get some sort of 36" walk behind, or possibly a used Zturn. I might possilbly get a used walker. There is one for sale in my area, and if Its still available when I finally pull the trigger I might just have it. I looked at the Exmark metro 26 today, and wondered how many residential yards I could knock out with just that Metro and hand tools. As in start out with that 26'er and just mow till I NEED something bigger. I dunno.. A frustrating day of looking at junker trucks that are over priced. The family depends on the 4 runner too much for me to trade it in. I am trying to strech my truck budget to $10k for a F25O 7.3 or Cummins... Those are getting harder and harder to find in that price range. They are either beat to hell and back or low miles and the owners want a million bucks for em. Just venting fellas. I want this to start so damn bad, I might just skip the truck and go get me a trailer tomorrow and start with my 4 runner as a tow vehicle. I would be sick if it got tore up , but I guess I could be super careful. Its just me as I intend to be a solo operator.

thecuttingedgelawn
10-18-2012, 12:31 AM
If its just you flyin solo, you could probably get by with your Yoda for a bit until you are able to purchase something else to fit your needs. As for a mower, I've seen several used nice 48" walk behinds around my area for around $1500 or maybe a bit more. I have a 2007 Exmark Turf Tracer HP 48" and love it, only think I don't like about it is, most of my jobs are commercial clients with huge areas to mow and even with my other 52" ZTR running, I wish my walk behind was bigger, but I deal with what I've got for now...a 36" is a nice size for residentials(esp with gates) with not too big of yard, but soon as you might get into smaller commercial sized or larger residential's your going to wish you had a bigger deck...Just what I've learned from experience, even though you may not currently need a little bigger mower or whatever, if you can swallow the price some, get a bit bigger than you need at the and you'll be happy about it now and later when you might expand some. I made the mistake of buying a 6X12 trailer which sufficed for the time, but soon as I got the walk behind, its very crowded. Wish I would've gotten at least a 7x14 if not a 7x16. Just somethings to think about. "Just listen to your heart, that's what I do" - Napolean Dynamite

birddseedd
10-22-2012, 11:59 PM
for a while i was towing my equipment with my honda vfr motorcycle. i need to find thsoe pics

birddseedd
10-23-2012, 12:07 AM
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u92/aquagirl900/bike%20and%20trailer/DSC_0133.jpg

found it

PROPERTYLAWNSERVICELLC
10-23-2012, 08:13 PM
MY v6 Dakota GVW at the scales was 12k does that count?

birddseedd
10-24-2012, 01:39 AM
MY v6 Dakota GVW at the scales was 12k does that count?

that just sound dangerous.

gcbailey
10-24-2012, 09:12 AM
I see a lot of stuff about engines on a 1/2 ton and pulling it, but nothing about transmissions and braking systems.

Even pulling a 10ft trailer with a 1/2 ton, you can get a lot of weight pushing you and experience some heavy brake fade, especially on older drum style brakes.

macgyver_GA
10-24-2012, 10:12 AM
Currently, I'm solo & part-time. I run a little 5x8 utility trailer behind my '07 Tacoma v6 6spd. It holds my 36" WB and handhelds just fine. I can't even tell I'm towing it. I went with a 5x8 because it fits in my garage and I can still park my truck or my fiance's jeep in the garage beside it.

I plan on buying a 50 gallon skid sprayer over the winter and I'm gonna run it out of the Tacoma. It'll be roughly 800 lbs in the bed (full) w/ the factory payload of 1295. I'll be upgrading the rear leaf springs to set of Old Man Emu Dakars before I do to help with the sag. Right now I have the factory springs with an Add A Leaf and it's starting to sag a little now that the springs are 2 years old and I run with some sort of weight in there all the time.

http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/n489/brad_macgyver/2012-06-13163402.jpg

birddseedd
10-24-2012, 10:46 AM
I see a lot of stuff about engines on a 1/2 ton and pulling it, but nothing about transmissions and braking systems.

Even pulling a 10ft trailer with a 1/2 ton, you can get a lot of weight pushing you and experience some heavy brake fade, especially on older drum style brakes.

the transmission will be built to handle what the engine is built to handle.

but the breaks are a good point. in fact even if you have a bigger truck you still should have trailer brakes if pulling a heavy enough trailer. one thing i was looking forward to having till my trailer broke

gcbailey
10-24-2012, 03:19 PM
the transmission will be built to handle what the engine is built to handle.



have to disagree with you there... ever talked to many owners older model Dodge Dakotas with the V6 and the smaller tranny. Same thing about some of the early Ford V-10s... more engine than the tranny could handle.

PROPERTYLAWNSERVICELLC
10-24-2012, 03:40 PM
have to disagree with you there... ever talked to many owners older model Dodge Dakotas with the V6 and the smaller tranny. Same thing about some of the early Ford V-10s... more engine than the tranny could handle.

42RLE

The 42LE was modified in 2003 as the 42RLE, originally for the then-new Jeep Liberty. It is a 42LE transaxle, modified for RWD use by removing the integral differential and transfer chain. Power flow exits the rear of the transmission. The case has also been modified. This transmission is still in production for several models.

Applications:

42RLE
2005–2010 Chrysler 300
2006–2010 Dodge Charger
2004–2011 Dodge Dakota
2004-2009 Dodge Durango
2005-2008 Dodge Magnum
2007–2011 Dodge Nitro
2003–2013 Jeep Liberty
2003–2011 Jeep Wrangler
2009 Dodge Challenger V6
2003-2012 Dodge Ram


I think a small V6 truck is quite suited to this trans with the above vehicle it was used in.

gcbailey
10-24-2012, 03:45 PM
right.... like I said, older.... Dakotas.... which granted in most peoples opinions 2003 is old. I had in mind from '91 to 2000.... had one of each and replaced the transmission in each one. 3.9 V6

birddseedd
10-24-2012, 06:58 PM
I am by no means an expert.

but if the issue is with older trucks. i would suspect they thought they were putting good enough tranies in and have learned in fact they were wrong. frankly if im wrong i have no problem believing it the way most car manufactuers build vehicles.

dareo
10-25-2012, 06:23 PM
I tow with a 6 cylinder...Cummins... If you can find a 94-98 12 valve cummins it is just about indestructable. You get around all the injector/injector pump problems of newer diesels. The 12 valve cummins from 94-98 has an engine oil lubricated injector pump, all other diesels rely on diesel fuel alone to lubricate. I have a 94 2wd, all mechanical, manual trans, and towing a 5x10 ramp gate in city driving i average 16-17 mpg per tank all towing all city, with A/C and an aftermarket stereo loading the engine.

It may be hard to find a decent 12 valve dodge but the efficiency and durability are second to none. I also get to skip emissions testing in my area. The 7.3 ford diesel is fairly reliable but gives up a few MPG to a cummins 12 valve.

birddseedd
10-25-2012, 08:12 PM
I tow with a 6 cylinder...Cummins... If you can find a 94-98 12 valve cummins it is just about indestructable. You get around all the injector/injector pump problems of newer diesels. The 12 valve cummins from 94-98 has an engine oil lubricated injector pump, all other diesels rely on diesel fuel alone to lubricate. I have a 94 2wd, all mechanical, manual trans, and towing a 5x10 ramp gate in city driving i average 16-17 mpg per tank all towing all city, with A/C and an aftermarket stereo loading the engine.

It may be hard to find a decent 12 valve dodge but the efficiency and durability are second to none. I also get to skip emissions testing in my area. The 7.3 ford diesel is fairly reliable but gives up a few MPG to a cummins 12 valve.

Its funny watching people who do not have a technical background claim a radio takes gas.

:laugh:

dareo
10-25-2012, 08:41 PM
Any significant electrical load takes more fuel. My stereo ccan consume up to 800 watts at full crank. That is over 1/2 hp of electricity. An alternator is lucky to be 50% efficient at best. So making 800 watts can take a full horsepower or more of engine power.

If you have a regular radio with no other equipment it is not significant.

birddseedd
10-25-2012, 08:55 PM
Any significant electrical load takes more fuel. My stereo ccan consume up to 800 watts at full crank. That is over 1/2 hp of electricity. An alternator is lucky to be 50% efficient at best. So making 800 watts can take a full horsepower or more of engine power.

If you have a regular radio with no other equipment it is not significant.

that is not how amperage works. iv studied electrical theory. your alternator is able to put out a ceratin amerage, the engery losses of doing this are due from friction within the bearings and electro motor inside the alternator. this friction does not magicialy dissapier if you are not using the amps.

dang my spelling sucks.

oh. hehe. also turnign on a light does not take more electricity than running a light. :rolleyes:

32vld
10-26-2012, 12:07 AM
that is not how amperage works. iv studied electrical theory. your alternator is able to put out a ceratin amerage, the engery losses of doing this are due from friction within the bearings and electro motor inside the alternator. this friction does not magicialy dissapier if you are not using the amps.

dang my spelling sucks.

oh. hehe. also turnign on a light does not take more electricity than running a light. :rolleyes:

Then why is there always a peak surge when a circuit is energized?

dareo
10-26-2012, 01:05 AM
Here is an interesting read about alternators and mpg. http://www.metrompg.com/posts/alternator-optional.htm

I messed up my calculation earlier. For some reason i was thinking 1 hp was 1500 watts. So if my stereo draws a full 800 watts that is really over 1hp of energy required, at a cost of about 2 hp engine mechanical power. That is nothing to sneeze at. You might need 20 hp to keep your truck going 60 mph, tire size tread and psi, ride height, aerodynamics, and all engine accesories make this number vary a lot. I would guess an automotive AC compressor's mechanical load is another 3-5 hp. If your typical cruising speed is 45 mph or less, the HP needed to maintain speed is quite low and the percentage of fuel used for A/C and alternator loads is much higher.

If i am wrong, HHO generators would work. But they don't, since they take a lot of direct current and the alternator load cancels any benefits of burning the HHO. Another gimmick that would work if i was wrong: Electric superchargers.

Sorry to see this thread go off topic. However, a 6 cylinder truck is about MPG and any way to increase it = more money in your pocket.

dareo
10-26-2012, 01:48 AM
I just found the page with specific speeds and horsepower data for a second gen ram diesel truck: http://articles.mopar1973man.com/general-cummins/36-fuel-system/77-how-to-improve-mpgs

It was 27.7 hp at 45 mph, 50 hp at 55 mph, 74.6hp at 65 mph, your truck will vary. but you can see the effects of speed vs hp required.

A V6 truck is more than enough to do the job, and if you can keep throttle inputs moderate, you will get better MPG than a V8.

birddseedd
10-26-2012, 10:53 AM
I just found the page with specific speeds and horsepower data for a second gen ram diesel truck: http://articles.mopar1973man.com/general-cummins/36-fuel-system/77-how-to-improve-mpgs

It was 27.7 hp at 45 mph, 50 hp at 55 mph, 74.6hp at 65 mph, your truck will vary. but you can see the effects of speed vs hp required.

A V6 truck is more than enough to do the job, and if you can keep throttle inputs moderate, you will get better MPG than a V8.

when i had my 4cyl i could barley even get on the highway with a trailer. think 60 max.

Boaz
10-26-2012, 05:13 PM
Well, I gave in and bought a nicely maintained used 7.3 Powerstroke Diesel. I think it will pull mowers just fine!

birddseedd
10-26-2012, 08:14 PM
Well, I gave in and bought a nicely maintained used 7.3 Powerstroke Diesel. I think it will pull mowers just fine!

Itl pull more than my truck.

dareo
10-26-2012, 10:53 PM
Way to go man, those [non GM] 90s diesels are the best. Trucks newer than the 7.3 were only made to satisfy emissions and cost a fortune to fix.

Groomer
11-01-2012, 11:47 AM
been using this F150 XL V6 for lawn service sice 99, been a great truck. Thinking about getting a new one so this will be up 4sale, only 83,000 miles on it.

Patriot Services
11-01-2012, 09:36 PM
Well, I gave in and bought a nicely maintained used 7.3 Powerstroke Diesel. I think it will pull mowers just fine!

When you have to fix it you will wish you had bought a gasser six.
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Boaz
11-04-2012, 07:12 PM
When you have to fix it you will wish you had bought a gasser six.
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Yeah they can be expensive to fix no doubt. I saved back extra $$ just in case it has issues. They cost $4900 to overhaul the entire 7.3 and the clutch costs about $1500 to replace. So i at least have a worst case senario amount set aside just incase I have a bad day!
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dareo
11-05-2012, 01:05 AM
You don't have to worry about spark plugs, distributors, wires, caps, rotors, ignitior chips, coils, ect on a diesel. You only need compression+fuel being injected and runs.

So if the engine is in good shape you really only worry about eventually replacing injectors. On a 7.3 that can be around 2 grand parts. Luckily they don't go out often. I recommend Rotella 5w40 synthetic as it will handle being pumped to the injectors better. The powerstroke injectors are fed high pressure engine oil to fire. So a 7.3 is harder on oil compared to other engines. Nothing to worry about, just IMO its worth buying the synthetic over the regular for about 32 extra bucks an oil change.

If/when you wear out a 7.3 (many have gone 400-500k original engine) and you still want to use the truck, don't spend 5 grand overhauling it. You could get a used cummins 5.9 and the adapter parts for close to that and have the Ford Cummins. All the Cummins goodness without the mediocre dodge.

Patriot Services
11-05-2012, 08:41 AM
You don't have to worry about spark plugs, distributors, wires, caps, rotors, ignitior chips, coils, ect on a diesel. You only need compression+fuel being injected and runs.

So if the engine is in good shape you really only worry about eventually replacing injectors. On a 7.3 that can be around 2 grand parts. Luckily they don't go out often. I recommend Rotella 5w40 synthetic as it will handle being pumped to the injectors better. The powerstroke injectors are fed high pressure engine oil to fire. So a 7.3 is harder on oil compared to other engines. Nothing to worry about, just IMO its worth buying the synthetic over the regular for about 32 extra bucks an oil change.

If/when you wear out a 7.3 (many have gone 400-500k original engine) and you still want to use the truck, don't spend 5 grand overhauling it. You could get a used cummins 5.9 and the adapter parts for close to that and have the Ford Cummins. All the Cummins goodness without the mediocre dodge.

Its the cost of pumps, injectors , glowplugs and turbos that kill you. You won't get over 300k from those items.
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