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swanny
10-24-2012, 09:00 PM
I've got a mulching head built by Alamo that I've used on a half dozen or so machines with flow between 18 and 22 gpm. It's originally built for an excavator since it's only 48" wide, but has an adapter plate on it for the skid. I bring in limbs with the dump trailer and drop them in the corner of a field, then use the Alamo to shred them up...saves a lot of hand work.

Picked up another Tl120 and decided to try the Alamo on it even though it's only maxes out at 15 gpm. I was pleasantly surprised it only took 45 minutes or so to grind up 7 dump trailer loads of 4" and smaller limbs. It really throws the chips a long way out in front of the machine too. Backing over it is more productive than going forwards:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v85/barndwellers_md/1024121337.jpg



All done mulching:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v85/barndwellers_md/1024121419.jpg


Pushed up the debris with the skid and bucket:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v85/barndwellers_md/1024121447.jpg


Question: with every machine (bobcat, nh, cat, takeuchi) the head will sometimes make the auxiliary pump vibrate. I can stop the vibration by either throttling down or by putting a load on the head. Any one else have similar experiences?

stuvecorp
10-25-2012, 12:40 AM
That's pretty cool, show some more pictures of it. Did you pick the mulcher up cheap?

swanny
10-25-2012, 09:19 AM
Not exactly cheap as these units run around 10 to 12k new, but I've got about 45 cents on the dollar in it. It only had a day's worth of use on it when I got it, but it sat most of it's life and picked up some water/contamination in the motor, so it got rebuilt. Works really well on tall thick grass too.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v85/barndwellers_md/alamomulchingteeth.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v85/barndwellers_md/alamomulchingside.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v85/barndwellers_md/alamomulchinghead.jpg

KrayzKajun
10-25-2012, 09:43 AM
Tht is sweet. More pics please, maybe a video. I would love to find an old mulcher head to fix up.
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bobcat_ron
10-25-2012, 10:09 AM
The pump vibrates because there is an imbalance on the mulcher head, that transmits through the oil pressure. My brother's 48" disc mower would vibrate everything on the 320CL at full speed with no load, and that disc was severely out of balance from either missing teeth or teeth that were only down to half a tooth.
You might also want to think about getting a case drain line with a small 10lb check valve inline drilled and threaded into the motor to take any excess back pressure away, that might help with the vibrations as well.
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4 seasons lawn&land
10-25-2012, 05:29 PM
that is really neat. I have a 120 too. Is the curl down to dump the bucket very slow on your machine? Mine has been like that since I bought it used.

swanny
10-25-2012, 10:01 PM
The pump vibrates because there is an imbalance on the mulcher head, that transmits through the oil pressure. My brother's 48" disc mower would vibrate everything on the 320CL at full speed with no load, and that disc was severely out of balance from either missing teeth or teeth that were only down to half a tooth.
You might also want to think about getting a case drain line with a small 10lb check valve inline drilled and threaded into the motor to take any excess back pressure away, that might help with the vibrations as well.
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Ok, thanks...that makes sense. It doesn't vibrate that often...which makes me think it happens when a piece of wood gets stuck in the drum or something. I plumbed a case drain on it, but no check valve.

swanny
10-25-2012, 10:03 PM
that is really neat. I have a 120 too. Is the curl down to dump the bucket very slow on your machine? Mine has been like that since I bought it used.

Not that I have noticed....that would be annoying.

JNB Construction
10-26-2012, 12:11 PM
The bucket dump on all three Kubota SVL75's that I've run were slow to dump and its pretty annoying. Even more annoying was not being able to lower the bucket flat below the bottom of the tracks or curl back far enough to use the heal of the bucket to backdrag material.

YellowDogSVC
10-26-2012, 01:49 PM
You won't be sorry having a mulcher. The swinging teeth do a good job but with limited horsepower, they will lay down more. I imagine that Alamo can handle more flow.

If you can find a fixed tooth mulcher, it will keep cutting even as it slows down.

The idea of bringing brush back and shredding to manageable sizes is smart. It takes up less space, can be used in composting, backfilling rocky areas, as a soil amendment in poor soils, or can eventually be reprocessed and mixed with dirt. The more you mow it, the finer it gets. There's a lot of possibilities and it's fun to mulch stuff.

swanny
10-26-2012, 06:20 PM
the original owner said the motor was capable of handling in the low 30 gpm. That makes sense about swinging teeth vs. rigid teeth...guess the rigid teeth wouldn't do well on grass.

It's probably paid for itself over the summer already. Big storm coming up the coast, so I'm sure it'll see some hrs. in the next week or so.

YellowDogSVC
10-26-2012, 06:33 PM
The fixed teeth don't do well on grass.. Higher rpm's help but it's more of a beating the thick stuff into submission.

swanny
11-24-2012, 06:47 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IibKr7kL12I

here's a short vid my youngest took of the head chewing on some apple limbs. They are pretty tough and wirey like hickory is, but it still does well considering it's running at less than half of the flow it was designed for.

4 seasons lawn&land
11-24-2012, 06:57 PM
i noticed you have this thing up for sale on craigs.

KrayzKajun
11-24-2012, 06:59 PM
Nice vid. Pretty impressive for running at half flow. Definitly cool to see it adapted to a skid.
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swanny
11-24-2012, 07:33 PM
i noticed you have this thing up for sale on craigs.

All of my equipment is always for sale. :)

swanny
11-25-2012, 10:10 PM
Helped a friend last spring to clear some of his front yard, so we put the tree tops (mostly oak and hickory...found an osage that was quite nasty to grind on) in a pile that was approx. 16' wide x 30' long x 7' tall when I started. It was pretty condensed as I kept driving on top of it with his CAT when I was stacking the brush.

Buzzed on it for about 2 hrs. today and got it basically shredded. I noticed 6 months of drying makes the limbs easier to mulch.

Any estimates on how long it would take if I had a high flow machine?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v85/barndwellers_md/image2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v85/barndwellers_md/image5.jpg

stuvecorp
11-26-2012, 01:56 AM
What are the specs for that TK120?

swanny
11-26-2012, 08:31 AM
What are the specs for that TK120?

54hp, 15 gpm auxiliary flow @ 3k psi. http://www.takeuchi-us.com/downloads/TL120.pdf

I wish the gpm were in the 20's.

stuvecorp
11-26-2012, 01:25 PM
54hp, 15 gpm auxiliary flow @ 3k psi. http://www.takeuchi-us.com/downloads/TL120.pdf

I wish the gpm were in the 20's.

Sorry, I meant options. Does it have cab and heat, hyd. quick tach? How many hours?

swanny
11-26-2012, 05:24 PM
Sorry, I meant options. Does it have cab and heat, hyd. quick tach? How many hours?


Ah, it's got my custom lexan cab and heat (antifreeze), a little over 100 hrs, no quick attach (but easy to add)....eyeing up a flat even trade for the case, eh? :)

stuvecorp
11-26-2012, 07:33 PM
Ah, it's got my custom lexan cab and heat (antifreeze), a little over 100 hrs, no quick attach (but easy to add)....eyeing up a flat even trade for the case, eh? :)

The thought did cross my mind but don't think you could stand all the benjis that would have to be thrown in...:)

I do like that size machine and think it could be very useful for the 'small' skid.

4 seasons lawn&land
11-27-2012, 01:54 PM
Ive thought about someday when I have more work to justify it, trading my tak 120 for a 150 and a dingo but I think Id miss it. The size seems to be perfect for many situations.

muddywater
11-27-2012, 07:44 PM
I use a 140 and dingos. I had a 150, but that thing is just too big and too heavy. We hauled the tl150 on a chevy 5500 and as my crew followed me to the job, I remember looking in the rear view mirror and hoping the damn truck wouldn't flip over making tight turns.

swanny
12-08-2012, 11:01 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/AQUIP-FORESTRY-MOWER-MULCHING-HEAD-SKID-STEER-ATTACHMENT-FECON-/300829267180?_trksid=p2047675.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D163%26meid%3D4012751908205088988%26pid%3D10 0005%26prg%3D1088%26rk%3D4%26sd%3D150960849951%26

Here's one for you guys down south for a reasonable price if it works. The guy who listed it lives not too far away from me and I've bought from him a couple years ago, but use caution with him. Noticed in his description he says unit has zero wear, while the teeth show obvious wear. :hammerhead:

fire126
12-08-2012, 01:28 PM
We mow a lot of wooded areas. we have cats with tracks and fecon mower heads. They do a great job. On larger clearing jobs we use the mower first then follow up with chain saws and a grapple bucket. We chip sometimes and we use burn piles.261446

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KrayzKajun
12-08-2012, 04:42 PM
Man those cats with the fecons are sweet.
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fire126
12-08-2012, 08:26 PM
We are very happy with them. We three 287 and two 297 all with high flow hyd. I lost one 287 when one of my guys stalled it dumping a load of brush in a burn pile and could not start it and baled out. I tried pushing it away from the fire with another machine with a fecon head but no luck. 261463

swanny
12-09-2012, 08:23 PM
Do you have any issues with overheating in those CATS?

That's a crispy CAT if I ever saw one. Really a shame.

fire126
12-09-2012, 09:16 PM
I have had them over heat a few times. But the temps were high and and you need to blow out the radiator more often depending on what you are mowing. The machine that burned was only 2 years old.

fire126
12-09-2012, 09:25 PM
We had a larger mower called a zappy mounted on a michigan loader that looked a lot like your alamo mower. Do you find the teeth get dull fast. Our zappy was a pain to change the teeth because of the rod would get bent.