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PlantscapeSolutions
11-05-2012, 02:44 PM
Has anyone used the sun warm white C7 & C9 bulbs. The color looks nice but the lumen output is so much less that I'm afraid they won't give me the desired effect.

hotrod1965
11-05-2012, 09:24 PM
Has anyone used the sun warm white C7 & C9 bulbs. The color looks nice but the lumen output is so much less that I'm afraid they won't give me the desired effect.

The color is pretty darn close. But LED's throw all the light forward, where incandescent are 360 lighting. So you don't get as much back glow.

I would buy a few and test them out. That will tell you if it will give you the desired effect.

PlantscapeSolutions
11-05-2012, 10:53 PM
I ordered 1000 of the Christmas USA Energy Right Super Bright warm white C9's thru Christmas Designers. The Sun Warm White bulbs that were so dim they worried me were samples from Sival. I have used Sivals C7 pure whites before.

addictedtolandscaping
11-06-2012, 05:59 AM
I spent several months trying to get samples - apparently vary few of then understand what a sample is. I also go some from Sival - at 97.00 for the "samples" and in my opinion, they suck.

It is my understanding that the "Sun Warm White" is being referred to as warm white by some of the distributors now.

In regard to the Ultra's, Jason told me about them last year, that they were in their 2nd year testing them. Cost wide, I don;t think you can go wrong. I am quite interested to see what the illumination is, they are supposedly better than the Minleon 5 diode.

Now speaking of which, have you seen teh quick change retro's they have available?

ChristmasDesigners
11-11-2012, 10:52 PM
Yes, sun warm white is often what is now the warm white standard. Even Minleon seems to now be making that their standard warm white and phasing out the older warm white. Our customer base is pretty much split regarding what they prefer; Minleon Sun Warm White or Christmas USA Warm White. We've been using both for installations and have no complaints with either. The Christmas USA is only a 3 LED C9, which we have been very leery of for a number of years, however, we are changing our views and next year plan on carrying a full line of 3 as well as the 5 LED C9 bulbs. I believe LiteSource is also doing the same and several other large sellers appear to be doing likewise.

PlantscapeSolutions
11-11-2012, 11:03 PM
Yes, sun warm white is often what is now the warm white standard. Even Minleon seems to now be making that their standard warm white and phasing out the older warm white. Our customer base is pretty much split regarding what they prefer; Minleon Sun Warm White or Christmas USA Warm White. We've been using both for installations and have no complaints with either. The Christmas USA is only a 3 LED C9, which we have been very leery of for a number of years, however, we are changing our views and next year plan on carrying a full line of 3 as well as the 5 LED C9 bulbs. I believe LiteSource is also doing the same and several other large sellers appear to be doing likewise.

I have some of the Christmas USA lights coming from you this week.

addictedtolandscaping
11-12-2012, 04:44 AM
My order from Christmas Designers is scheduled to arrive today. The Christmas USA 3 Diode as well as the color changing are on that order. I will comment after I get home tonight as I plan to immediately open them and check them out.

BeachysLawn
07-08-2013, 10:59 AM
Hey Plantscape & Addicted, I'd love to hear your final words on the Christmas USA bulbs.

PlantscapeSolutions
07-08-2013, 06:50 PM
Hey Plantscape & Addicted, I'd love to hear your final words on the Christmas USA bulbs.

I has to send my bulbs back. They were supposed to be warm white but they were closer to pure white. I'm going to stick with only Minleon from now on since I can get them from multiple sources if one runs out. I'll be using Christmas Designers as my primary source since they are only 240 miles away from me.

ChristmasDesigners
07-26-2013, 11:22 AM
Hi Everyone, for the rest of July and throughout the month of August, we'll be offering free LED retrofit bulb samples. The sample will include the Christmas USA Warm White and Minleon Sun Warm White. The only catch is that we are completely sold out of the Sun Warm Whites, but should have our bulb container in within the next two weeks. LED retrofit bulbs are a big investment, so we want to make sure you have a clear understanding of what you're getting before investing a lot of money into new bulbs.