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cutbetterthanyou
11-08-2012, 06:39 PM
Not trying to start a war, but which one would you choose under $10,000. I had a 01 ford that everything broke on but the motor ( alot of this was due to me being young and wide open:drinkup::nono:) but it still is making me lean toward the cummins. Everyone rants and raves about them, but i always felt that dodge was kindof bottom of the bucket, they just seem cheaply built mostly inside. Ideally i would buy another duramax but 10k isn't going to buy much of a duramax maybe a 2wd or one with 200k+ miles. What do you guys think? I found a decent deal on a 94 cummins 4x4 ,what kindof mpg should i expect if i get it?

Boaz
11-08-2012, 07:00 PM
I was on the fence as well when I was looking for a diesel truck. Both motors are great, I think the cummins will edge the powerstroke out in fuel economy, but its a pretty small margin. I based my decision on the truck itself. Both engines are good and proven. I personally prefer ford trucks over dodge. Simple as that. I think that Dodge trucks are just not built as well as fords. Super Dutys are over built and I think will outlast a dodge truck. This is just my 2 cents.

cgaengineer
11-08-2012, 07:02 PM
Powersmoke...
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THEGOLDPRO
11-08-2012, 07:14 PM
I think you know my answer.

jsslawncare
11-08-2012, 07:18 PM
B-series cummins any day.

kawakx125
11-09-2012, 07:25 AM
cummins hands down...just look at how its built compared to a powersmoke and you'll see. i'm talking about the motor only, cummins will outlast anything on the road. both the ford and dodge chassis are alot stronger than the dmax's. both are solid axle trucks built like tanks underneath

Boaz
11-09-2012, 07:33 AM
I was on the fence as well when I was looking for a diesel truck. Both motors are great, I think the cummins will edge the powerstroke out in fuel economy, but its a pretty small margin. I based my decision on the truck itself. Both engines are good and proven. I personally prefer ford trucks over dodge. Simple as that. I think that Dodge trucks are just not built as well as fords. Super Dutys are over built and I think will outlast a dodge truck. This is just my 2 cents.

FWIW, when this 7.3 Dies I plan on doing the cummins conversion on the truck. Just to do it. Why not?

cutbetterthanyou
11-09-2012, 09:08 AM
I'm leaning towarsd the dodge never had one and everyone that has a old 12v loves them. I have had a duramax for 85k nearabout problem free miles, moreless only major problem was front hubs. The 01 250 by 80k i spent over 6k in. And my other 2wd f350 when i traded it in at 40k the whole front end was shot. How are the dodge drivetrain in say like a 94 bodystyle mostly the frontends and auto trans? I know they are straght axles but so was my 01 f250 it still needed hubs and stuff steering stuff. I'm not dead set against a pstroke but with under 10k (like to keep it around 5 but willing to go up to 10)to spent i fell like what i'm going to find is probally going to be wore out or outragous priced

kawakx125
11-09-2012, 11:01 AM
any 3/4 or 1 ton diesel truck is going to have front end issues eventually, and most likely sooner than their gas or half ton counterparts. diesel's weigh ALOT more which equals out to things wearing quicker. i have yet to hear of a 3/4 or 1 ton truck brand that doesn't have front end issues, and by issues i mean wearing out relatively quickly compared to a car.

360ci
11-09-2012, 05:45 PM
I'd go with the cummins. I6 has less to go wrong/break/fail then any V8, gas or diesel for that matter.

Monroe74
11-10-2012, 05:17 PM
Rule of thumb if you like the idea if a truck get a half ton if you need a truck 3/4 ton if you work a truck 1 ton plus. Both engines are awesome. Ford designed their trans and frame for towing. Dodge is good as well but their trans is something to be desired till you reach the 4500 series.

grasscutter24
11-10-2012, 10:18 PM
I have an 08 F350 diesel and it's in the shop more than I use it for work. I have contemplated selling it, but don't feel like making another truck payment. Stay away from Ford.

JFGauvreau
11-11-2012, 08:01 AM
There's not really a truck that is "better" then others, they all have their pros & cons.

I currently just bought a 2009 I6 6.7L 3500 dodge cummins and I love it, LOTS of power to pull, the only down side with these trucks is the front end, which is not so reliable.

jrs.landscaping
11-11-2012, 05:18 PM
I'd say powerstroke, but I have a bias opinion because I own 4 of them. The only one that has had any type of issue has been the 6.0, IMHO the 7.3 is pretty near bulletproof.

TeamYardsale4
11-11-2012, 09:22 PM
IMHO if you are looking at a $10k diesel its gonna be early 2000 or late 90's when comparing the dodgeVSford for those years Id have to say the ford has proven to have a very strong 7.3 motor and the tranny is bulletproof, Dodges back then only had a motor everything else on them was garbage! they have only become more superior in the last 5 years over ford. BUT i am also a bit biased so I would say hold out and find a duramax haha good luck!!

cutbetterthanyou
11-11-2012, 09:36 PM
IMHO if you are looking at a $10k diesel its gonna be early 2000 or late 90's when comparing the dodgeVSford for those years Id have to say the ford has proven to have a very strong 7.3 motor and the tranny is bulletproof, Dodges back then only had a motor everything else on them was garbage! they have only become more superior in the last 5 years over ford. BUT i am also a bit biased so I would say hold out and find a duramax haha good luck!!

U R correct about the early 2000s late 90s is what i am looking at, but i wouldn't say that the 7.3s trannys are bulletproof mine when out with 80k on the truck and at the time the owner of the trans shop said "don't feel bad we do at least 2 a week and almost all of them have under 100k on them". Apparrently they have alot of parts built out of aluminum that shouldn't be. He said that once updated to steel parts along with a good converter they are one of the best trans ,but not from the factory. If dodge is worst maybe i should hold out for a duramax.

TeamYardsale4
11-11-2012, 09:47 PM
U R correct about the early 2000s late 90s is what i am looking at, but i wouldn't say that the 7.3s trannys are bulletproof mine when out with 80k on the truck and at the time the owner of the trans shop said "don't feel bad we do at least 2 a week and almost all of them have under 100k on them". Apparrently they have alot of parts built out of aluminum that shouldn't be. He said that once updated to steel parts along with a good converter they are one of the best trans ,but not from the factory. If dodge is worst maybe i should hold out for a duramax.

Again it is just my thoughts, Im sure a dodge guy will come on here real soon and tell you the exact opposite haha, I have friends with early 2000 powerstrokes and they love them, decent power def not comparable to my duramax but my Dmax is also 7 yrs newer and every year they seem to add more HP and torque. all in all I would say go with you thoughts and how truck feels to you on test drive, mileage and price obv which is the main thing for most of us when buying a vehicle! I got real lucky that I found mine or I would never be able to afford a decent Dmax but I looked for just over a year before I found it.

kawakx125
11-12-2012, 09:56 AM
bottom line they all got their problems that are gonna vary from truck to truck and how they are driven. you've gotta look at the problems that EVERYONE else is having and make decisions from there. auto trans seems to be a crapshoot either you get a good one or a bad one regardless of brand.

cutbetterthanyou
11-12-2012, 11:18 AM
Whats a good price on a 01 f250 with a chip str8 pipe built tranny and converter 100k miles crew cab short bed 4x4 no rust new tires and cab on back .Think about buying my old one back.

Bautieri
11-13-2012, 10:33 AM
Whats a good price on a 01 f250 with a chip str8 pipe built tranny and converter 100k miles crew cab short bed 4x4 no rust new tires and cab on back .Think about buying my old one back.

NADA says around 14k, retail.

http://www.nadaguides.com/Cars/2001/Ford/F250-Super-Duty-Pickup-3-4-Ton-V8/Crew-Cab-XLT-4WD/Standard-Equipment

chips, pipes, cabs and tires don't really do anything for resale value.

THEGOLDPRO
11-13-2012, 11:31 AM
I would be looking for one that's stock, Why buy something that someone has allready kicked the piss out of?? When i bought my Cummins i looked for a while till i found a stock one in good shape with zero mods, and zero plow.

cutbetterthanyou
11-13-2012, 12:52 PM
Well i ended up buying it yesterday. I bought the truck new in 01 keep it till 06 when i put about 5500 in repairs. Some of the repair were due to me being young, but the truck also worked since day one. Like someone stated b4 any deisel is going to be hard in front ends. Atleast i know the things this one has not only been repaired but upgraded.The trans is done up for pulling, it has a billet converter, oversize trans cooler. Yes it has a chip and exhaust ,but it also has 400 worth of gauges to moniter everything. I know for a fact that the truck has never been run hot, trans temp never been over 210, egt never been over 1100. As far as wear i am less concerned with the chip than i am with the fact i had a lift and big tires on it for about 60k whiles towing 3 ztrs on a 3k trailer everyday. When i sold it to my dad he took all the lift and tires off and lowered it back down. Since then has put 30k more problem free miles on it. I trust this one more than anything i am going to buy off line. My other fear with buying off line is we have just had alot of flooding in new york and jersey. There are also probally alot of probmatic cars and trucks from Louisanna running around as well.

clydebusa
11-13-2012, 03:49 PM
U R correct about the early 2000s late 90s is what i am looking at, but i wouldn't say that the 7.3s trannys are bulletproof mine when out with 80k on the truck and at the time the owner of the trans shop said "don't feel bad we do at least 2 a week and almost all of them have under 100k on them". Apparrently they have alot of parts built out of aluminum that shouldn't be. He said that once updated to steel parts along with a good converter they are one of the best trans ,but not from the factory. If dodge is worst maybe i should hold out for a duramax.

I have a 7.3 with 225k on 3rd auto and will need the 4th soon, so bullet proof. HA

cutbetterthanyou
11-13-2012, 04:34 PM
I have a 7.3 with 225k on 3rd auto and will need the 4th soon, so bullet proof. HA

R u putting stock ones back in? My trans guy said that once upgraded to better parts along with a good converter they are one of the best. he rebuilt mine for about 3k and a nice converter was about a grand,if i remiember correctly.

cutbetterthanyou
11-13-2012, 04:41 PM
here"s a picture of her

wilsonsground
11-13-2012, 04:58 PM
When it comes down to all of it if you're looking for a work horse that won't leave your stranded and only want to spent roughly 10 k you want the 7.3. I'm sure some guy that's had 1 bad experience with that model with chime in and complain just like everyone does about every make and model. I've owned Chevy ford and dodge I don't like dodges IMO. I've owed ford for 6 years and prefer them Especially for plowing also said I'd never buy a Chevy too but I did this spring (6.5 motor) and haven't had any complaints always does wnhat I need it to do.dodge only had a good motor IMO granny's sucked. Every truck has its pros and cons ESPECIALLY if you bea the **** out it.

clydebusa
11-16-2012, 11:57 AM
26046286k factory crate, 122k front seal leak burned trans up 171k rebuilt, 236 front seal leaking and slow shifting into over drive. True it is a 450 and runs around with 12k on it and then I pull trailers.

jsslawncare
11-16-2012, 07:50 PM
Im going to build me a truck. 1955 F250, 4bt turbo Cummins, Allison auto, Dana 60 rear(single wheel) With a dump flat bed. I haven't decided on the front axle yet or 2wd or 4wd. Why? Because I can. I just think it would be neat.

01thump
11-16-2012, 09:40 PM
^^^^Sure you are...post some pics of this build...

jsslawncare
11-17-2012, 06:58 AM
^^^^Sure you are...post some pics of this build...

Oh, I can. I'm a better redneck engineer then I am a grass cutter!