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GoldnGreenLandscaper
11-27-2012, 06:54 PM
Do you think it is better to force the fertilizer/weed ctrl program on clients or give them the option to choose it?

It gives people who see you working on a property a perception that you do shotty work? Additionally, can't we carry those weed seeds from untreated lawns to weed-free lawns?

32vld
11-27-2012, 07:12 PM
When you have more work then you can handle then you can dictate to your customers.

Not everyone wants or can afford to have the lawn of your dreams.

GoldnGreenLandscaper
11-27-2012, 07:36 PM
I def hear that and agree but was thinking about the pros and cons of making it mandatoy such as not having a negative perception of the wprk you do.

Think you said it right...once I'm in a position to make it mandatory, I will know it.

cpllawncare
11-27-2012, 07:42 PM
I don't require it, I have it as an add on service for those that want it, most do, but not all, after I show them the difference they usually go for it!

Landscape Poet
11-27-2012, 07:44 PM
Down here it seems that almost all companies are set up to offer pricing ONLY on including weed control, fert and disease control. Each company may vary a little by not including some weeds while others do treat them in their program.
I am not aware of any company around here that offers just straight fertilization. I am sure some smaller operations may agree to offer a color only option but I am not aware of it. With the pest and disease issues lawns down here can face most homeowners seem to want it all included.

Smallaxe
11-28-2012, 09:12 AM
Up here you can't even 'deselect' dumping granules on frozen hillside overlooking a Lake... and yes, there is an app for more granules for the Spring rains and another for when the grass is actually growing again...
It always makes one look smart(and professional) when one requires the frozen ground apps... :)

I hope that LCOs stop that pretty soon, but TGCL leads the pack when it comes to mandatory detrimental apps... So the LCOs would have to figure out for themselves, "What is proper and what is Not"...
Are we going to just copy the big boys or are we willing to take less cash to do it right???

Nobody seems to understand why gov'ts get involved with commanding, "How and When fertilzers may be Applied"""

Landscape Poet
11-28-2012, 09:53 PM
Up here you can't even 'deselect' dumping granules on frozen hillside overlooking a Lake... and yes, there is an app for more granules for the Spring rains and another for when the grass is actually growing again...
It always makes one look smart(and professional) when one requires the frozen ground apps... :)

I hope that LCOs stop that pretty soon, but TGCL leads the pack when it comes to mandatory detrimental apps... So the LCOs would have to figure out for themselves, "What is proper and what is Not"...
Are we going to just copy the big boys or are we willing to take less cash to do it right???

Nobody seems to understand why gov'ts get involved with commanding, "How and When fertilzers may be Applied"""

You bring up some very valid point in concerns to proper apps. My statement was made about down here you are essentially paying the PCO to care for the turf would be how I would put it. A good PCO/LCO will inspect the lawn and give it only what would be needed. If there is not any weeds present then their would not be a need for a application of a control agent. Generally however in our environment with pest and disease there are certain procautions that PCO will make to ensure the customer does not lose their turf to pest during certain times of year as it is not a simple re-seeding the lawn here as their is not a viable seed for St. Augustine.

Smallaxe
11-29-2012, 07:24 AM
You bring up some very valid point in concerns to proper apps. My statement was made about down here you are essentially paying the PCO to care for the turf would be how I would put it. A good PCO/LCO will inspect the lawn and give it only what would be needed. If there is not any weeds present then their would not be a need for a application of a control agent. Generally however in our environment with pest and disease there are certain procautions that PCO will make to ensure the customer does not lose their turf to pest during certain times of year as it is not a simple re-seeding the lawn here as their is not a viable seed for St. Augustine.

I agree,,, No matter where your from , it is the job of every professional in every line of work to,,, not be a putz...

When an LCO treats CG when the ground is still too cold to even have the KBG growing actively and dumping fert at the same time, he is a putz on so many different levels already,,, but my main point was that of filling our fresh water lakes with NPK & 2,4d type products, makes him/her a total hazard to the industry... enter the gov't to fix the stupidity...
Then ,,, these same fools are so arrogant as to require that the client accept ALL6/7 apps... :)

MOW ED
11-29-2012, 08:36 AM
I am in the service industry. The customer picks the level of service.

When you go to a restaurant you get to order off the menu. You don't always get what the restaurant owner wants to sell you and if you had to order the most expensive steak you would probably like it but resent that you had to pay alot for it and had no choice.

Keep that in mind when you think about demanding anything of your customers because there are lots of restaurants out there. Good Luck.

Smallaxe
11-29-2012, 09:18 PM
I am in the service industry. The customer picks the level of service.

When you go to a restaurant you get to order off the menu. You don't always get what the restaurant owner wants to sell you and if you had to order the most expensive steak you would probably like it but resent that you had to pay alot for it and had no choice.

Keep that in mind when you think about demanding anything of your customers because there are lots of restaurants out there. Good Luck.

But my restaurant can't survive if you don't put a lot of money into OUR Specials... :)

32vld
12-02-2012, 03:47 PM
But my restaurant can't survive if you don't put a lot of money into OUR Specials... :)

Then your costs are out of control or your prices are wrong, or both.


Whether you have 20 customers that order soup to nuts and you bill them 2 hrs a week ea, or you have 40 customers that just want a ham sandwich at 1 hr a week does not matter because either way you are going to be biling for 40 hrs a week total.

wildstarblazer
12-02-2012, 08:35 PM
The big companies are there for profit only, that's probably why you can't pick which channels you want from Dish or Directv.

cpllawncare
12-02-2012, 09:16 PM
The big companies are there for profit only, that's probably why you can't pick which channels you want from Dish or Directv.

I would say any company operating without profit in mind is doomed!

MOW ED
12-03-2012, 09:41 AM
Of course any company HAS to have profit in mind because that is why a company is in business. How you go about your business to make that profit is what makes or breaks you. I know I have the edge of personal service to the people who value personal service. If they want to customize an application program I am happy to do that and they are happy to pay. A large national company is in the marketing business and they are very successful. It is a franchise and they have a certain market that likes that arrangement. Knowing your market and giving them what they want makes you valueable to them. You cannot be all things to all people. So I may not have all the business but I have defined my business to attract a certain market and I am more than happy to make a profit from doing what they want.

recycledsole
12-03-2012, 09:57 AM
some people dont want to use harmful chemicals on their lawns
and that is a growing realization