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sven1277
11-29-2012, 09:40 PM
I'm considering switching 2 vp premixed ethanol free fuel for all my 2 stroke machines. My dealer carries 5gal containers, but I forget how much the cost is. Does anyone know? Thanks

orangemower
11-29-2012, 10:05 PM
Why spend all the extra money when you can add this to your fuel and have the same results at a much cheaper price.

http://mystarbrite.com/startron//content/view/100/136/lang,en/

herler
11-29-2012, 10:46 PM
Like I tell customers who ask me how much, as a general rule...
If you have to ask, chances are you can't afford it.

But I am curious...

How many folks even remember ethanol free fuel distinctly, specifically ran it in your equipment, and can tell me which problems they experienced that they never had before... Seriously, I am one of them and I don't expect a huge crowd.

Because the stuff has been in our delivery system for more than a few years now, dang near a decade really.

Folks out there will dump additives into their fuel systems...
Additives to which they have no clue as to what they actually contain,
because fuel additives do not provide us with a ready list of ingredients...
They will dump that mysterious liquid gloop in their tanks...
All the while cursing ethanol, the one ingredient we do know is in our fuel...
For all their fuel-related problems.

herler
11-29-2012, 10:55 PM
These same folks...

Will spend more money and effort...

Dumping costly additives in their fuel systems while cursing...
Additives which they have no clue as to the actual contents.

Than money and effort it would have took to just put 93 octane premium gasoline in it.

These people are saving money putting cheap regular, the cheapest regular they can find!
And wonder why they're having problems, which logically leads us all to the ethanol.

These very same people will curse again...
Once the ethanol is removed.

Keith
11-29-2012, 10:57 PM
I'm willing to bet it's north of $10 a gallon, and probably more like $15.

weve
11-29-2012, 11:57 PM
I bought 5 gal of the VP 4-cycle unleaded 94 octane fuel about 1 1/2 years ago at an OPE dealer open house. I got it at a discount and it still cost over $11.00/gal. The aroma of that gas was totally different than what you buy at the pump and it was as clear as bottled water.

sven1277
11-30-2012, 12:10 AM
Thanks for the replies. I think it was around $50-60 for the 5gal. Too expensive for the volume I need. I do have Startron additives for both gas and diesel. I always forget to use it. I will start with that.

Frontier-Lawn
11-30-2012, 09:43 AM
find a gas station get the 90 octane non ethonol gas. i pay 4.49 gal for mine.

cpllawncare
11-30-2012, 07:13 PM
Dang we pay 3.38/gal for our non ethanol

crazyflyboy30
12-14-2012, 09:28 AM
Dang we pay 3.38/gal for our non ethanol

I am paying $3.29 for non ethanol gas.

crazyflyboy30
12-20-2012, 01:26 AM
i am paying $3.29 for non ethanol gas.

$2.999 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

slowleak1
12-20-2012, 01:28 AM
Can someone explain to me how ADDING something to gas REMOVES ethanol? Please?

CL&T
12-20-2012, 11:06 PM
It doesn't. Best it can do is keep the water saturated ethanol in suspension so it doesn't separate out with water/ethanol on the bottom (you can shake the container and do the same thing) but you're still burning that crap and it's still corrosive. Besides, if it has phase separated it needs to be discarded. No matter what the snake oil guys claim, there is no way to remove ethanol once it is mixed with gasoline.

dboyd351
01-13-2013, 09:47 PM
Can someone explain to me how ADDING something to gas REMOVES ethanol? Please?

Best question I've ever heard regarding all those claims the additives make.
You know the answer.

If you can get non-ethanol, just use that. Look here for non-ethanol gas stations:
puregas.org.

larryinalabama
01-13-2013, 10:16 PM
Feller at the mower shop told me that "non-ethional" gas by federal mandate contains "methaonial" which is a tree product and is woorse than ethonal.

CL&T
01-13-2013, 10:28 PM
The feller in the mower shop doesn't know what he's talking about.

dboyd351
01-14-2013, 07:37 AM
the feller in the mower shop doesn't know what he's talking about.

exactly!!!

DR J
01-15-2013, 10:11 AM
Guys! may want to look at a product ehto sheild and engine energy, also diesel mechanic in a bottle by BC3. Will be a game changer for all of ya'll. Have used in shop for about 4 to 5 yrs. with 87 octane gas no need for high ocatane. Take a look for yourselves and do some testing. The WOW factor will set in after that. Try carbon test, or add water directly to etho sheild on bottum of old coke can and then light. Try your products the same way make sure to stand way back.Theses guys are way ahead of everything else on the market,so much almost every two cycle company and engine comany has tried to buy them. Take a look!

slowleak1
01-15-2013, 10:23 AM
Best question I've ever heard regarding all those claims the additives make.
You know the answer.

If you can get non-ethanol, just use that. Look here for non-ethanol gas stations:
puregas.org.

Exactly why I asked :laugh:

CL&T
01-15-2013, 12:46 PM
Well, OK. Do you have any actual scientific evidence to back up your claims or are you just a spammer for some snake oil?

DR J
01-15-2013, 01:25 PM
Sure why don't u do the test described earlier for your own. take a empty coke can flip it up side down,pour etho sheild in, rub will find it eats the ink up which i believe is carbon based. put a few drops of water in it and light on fire, u will notice the water not boiling but vaporizing with solution.Also check flame will be clean all willburn. then try the same thing with sea foam and star tron but make sure to stand back. Not a salesman. master tech and lpg specialist. Just wanting to view some of the things people believe and don't believe about fuels,oils, additives, ect.

slowleak1
01-15-2013, 02:00 PM
Ok so again I will ask, how does adding this to gasoline remove the ethanol?

CL&T
01-15-2013, 02:47 PM
Sure why don't u do the test described earlier for your own. take a empty coke can flip it up side down,pour etho sheild in, rub will find it eats the ink up which i believe is carbon based. put a few drops of water in it and light on fire, u will notice the water not boiling but vaporizing with solution.
So how does that get rid of ethanol?

DR J
01-15-2013, 06:51 PM
You got me in a corner and ya'll are correct will not get rid of ethonal, but will keep the gas and ethanol bonded.encapsulating water thus not allowing phase separation which is what is killing motors. Hope additives will help with the e 15 coming down the pipeline. have not been able to find non etho gas here yet, unless u get the av gas. This is the best solution we have found here getting four to five plus years out of 2 cycle.

dboyd351
01-15-2013, 07:09 PM
Hey Dr. J,
You play basketball? Bet you're magic there, too!:cool2:

DR J
01-15-2013, 07:14 PM
Sorry, Wrong color tone sport.

CL&T
01-15-2013, 07:19 PM
You got me in a corner and ya'll are correct will not get rid of ethanol, but will keep the gas and ethanol bonded.encapsulating water thus not allowing phase separation which is what is killing motors.

"Encapsulating" water is what ethanol does. Ever heard of dry gas? Thing is we don't want gas and encapsulated water to burn in an engine. Ethanol attracts water. Get rid of ethanol and you get rid of the water along with the other problems that ethanol causes like corrosion and damage to rubber parts. I would assume that the only way to separate ethanol from gasoline is to distill it but I don't know how that will effect some of the other desirable components.

crazyflyboy30
01-16-2013, 10:06 AM
"Encapsulating" water is what ethanol does. Ever heard of dry gas? Thing is we don't want gas and encapsulated water to burn in an engine. Ethanol attracts water. Get rid of ethanol and you get rid of the water along with the other problems that ethanol causes like corrosion and damage to rubber parts. I would assume that the only way to separate ethanol from gasoline is to distill it but I don't know how that will effect some of the other desirable components.

You are so right I go out of way and pay more for gas that has no ethanol.

GearMonkey
07-17-2014, 03:19 PM
I paid $3.89/gallon last week for 87 oct.