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bobcat_ron
12-05-2012, 02:35 PM
Every now and then I get a unique job with equally unique challenges, it makes my days better and more entertaining than my usual mix.
This job popped up, the owners of this warehouse want an open building, and presently it has a 30,000 sq/ft office and ware house floor, suspended slab on structural steel trusses with a crap load of supporting concrete tilt up and poured in place walls and concrete beams under neath.
First phase was to remove all the steel studs after the crew stripped the drywall, I think I counted 14 office spaces, I removed 1 40 yard bin of studs and another bin of drywall.
http://i1026.photobucket.com/albums/y325/bigbrotheriswatching_2010/P1020546_zps135f5002.jpg

Ceiling is getting dropped, I wasn't allowed to hook it as the wires could pull the fasteners out of the steel cladding above, and start leaks.
http://i1026.photobucket.com/albums/y325/bigbrotheriswatching_2010/P1020539_zps109e7ac1.jpg

Carpet is getting stripped, nothing but 12"x12" tiles.
http://i1026.photobucket.com/albums/y325/bigbrotheriswatching_2010/P1020540_zps2d47cb23.jpg

Open storage area for the lighter parts of the previous owner:
http://i1026.photobucket.com/albums/y325/bigbrotheriswatching_2010/P1020541_zpse44b5bf6.jpg

My stud pile:
http://i1026.photobucket.com/albums/y325/bigbrotheriswatching_2010/P1020545_zps947136ba.jpg

Rental S185 (hate it hate it hate it) and grapple bucket.
http://i1026.photobucket.com/albums/y325/bigbrotheriswatching_2010/P1020542_zps9c897f6c.jpg

This is the view down to the main floor, anything sticking above it will be knocked down, this floor I am working on is 18 feet higher, with walls 28 feet high.
http://i1026.photobucket.com/albums/y325/bigbrotheriswatching_2010/P1020543_zpsd86f2a97.jpg
http://i1026.photobucket.com/albums/y325/bigbrotheriswatching_2010/P1020544_zps4f6f9cf6.jpg

I worked faster than anticipated, so I got the next day off. Second phase will begin in a few days.

KrayzKajun
12-05-2012, 03:16 PM
Very kool. I see a good bit of money in recycling the metal.
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AEL
12-05-2012, 07:21 PM
Looks like an interesting job. Please tell me you are going to shore the slab and not use a hammer on the bobcat to remove it...

bobcat_ron
12-05-2012, 07:36 PM
Looks like an interesting job. Please tell me you are going to shore the slab and not use a hammer on the bobcat to remove it...

That's the plan, there is heavy metal cladding under the concrete, the breaker will break loose the concrete, then we will work under neath with a battering ram attachment to push up and roll and peel the cladding off while the broken concrete falls off. A floor smaller than this one was done exactly the same way on a previous reno job. But a concrete pulveriser on our big hoe is also coming on site.
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bearmtnmartin
12-08-2012, 03:45 PM
Just cut the supports from above and position the lowbed under the last support so when you cut through the bobcat is loaded and good to go.

bobcat_ron
12-08-2012, 03:53 PM
Just cut the supports from above and position the lowbed under the last support so when you cut through the bobcat is loaded and good to go.

Naaww, we lifted it off yesterday with a zoom boom, works real well. The carpet kicked my ass though, and a labourer with a flat shovel scraped them off faster than a grapple bucket on the tight spots. A floor tile scraper is on order for next week from Bobcat.

AEL
12-08-2012, 04:35 PM
I got an attachment that will work better then any scraper bobcat has ever made, you just gotta grab it from Edmonton!
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bobcat_ron
12-08-2012, 04:36 PM
Can you post a pic of it?
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AEL
12-09-2012, 09:57 AM
If you give me your email I will email it to you , don't want to give away all of my secrets on here!
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KrayzKajun
12-09-2012, 09:58 AM
If you give me your email I will email it to you , don't want to give away all of my secrets on here!
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Sneeky Sneeky :dancing:

bobcat_ron
12-10-2012, 01:22 PM
Some more progress, it's slow, but there's more office space under the floor that has to be stripped, so it's getting there.
http://i1026.photobucket.com/albums/y325/bigbrotheriswatching_2010/P1020550_zps101302de.jpg
http://i1026.photobucket.com/albums/y325/bigbrotheriswatching_2010/P1020548_zpsfc9ba7d9.jpg
http://i1026.photobucket.com/albums/y325/bigbrotheriswatching_2010/P1020549_zps054e75c8.jpg

I realized how much of a contortionist you have to be at the end of the day to grease these Bobcraps, I've never gotten so dirty greasing this thing.
http://i1026.photobucket.com/albums/y325/bigbrotheriswatching_2010/P1020551_zpsa9252373.jpg

Lifting it off the second floor for the main floor clean up. I was prayin' it would fall off so I could get the company 277C in, nope. :cry:
http://i1026.photobucket.com/albums/y325/bigbrotheriswatching_2010/P1020553_zps102ec050.jpg

Junior M
12-10-2012, 09:15 PM
You must have short little t-rex arms.. I've never gotten dirty greasing mine :laugh:

P.Services
12-10-2012, 09:20 PM
every one knows you dont grease a rental????? i thought that was common knowledge

bobcat_ron
12-10-2012, 09:22 PM
Oddly enough I remembered the exact angle you need to get on the grease gun when doing the bottom of the main lift cylinders down by the rear wheels. But the stupid grease zerks from the main tilt pins? What a stupid idea! You need to take the bucket off and roll the quick-tach down. No wonder I switched to Cat back in those days.
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bobcat_ron
12-10-2012, 09:23 PM
every one knows you dont grease a rental????? i thought that was common knowledge

Good point, and it's a Bobcat. Such a waste of cheap grease.
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bobcat_ron
12-16-2012, 12:42 PM
I spent another week on site, still no love for Bobcat, but, it's got a full cab and it does cut down on dust, but it ain't no Caterpillar.
I'm really hating steel studs and drop ceiling tracks, what a PITA to remove. But there is progression being made.
The "battering ram" arrived on site, 14 feet long, it really didn't work that well, but it made knocking down the ceiling and HVAC ducting much easier and fun.
http://i1026.photobucket.com/albums/y325/bigbrotheriswatching_2010/P1020564_zps0640ccd1.jpg

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http://i1026.photobucket.com/albums/y325/bigbrotheriswatching_2010/P1020571_zps91d794ba.jpg

Removing the boiler from the boiler room, I do love these "zoom boom" machines.
http://i1026.photobucket.com/albums/y325/bigbrotheriswatching_2010/P1020572_zps62ab3757.jpg
http://i1026.photobucket.com/albums/y325/bigbrotheriswatching_2010/P1020573_zps902591b0.jpg

Then the big toy arrived, but there was some confusion over what would work better, I wanted a true shear head, and all I got a pulveriser, so we tried a few things, but sent the pulveriser back to get the head swapped out for the shear.
"Chicken Beak", suitable for 30" thick concrete with rebar, and a shear inside the throat:
http://i1026.photobucket.com/albums/y325/bigbrotheriswatching_2010/P1020575_zpscb802b10.jpg

"Lobster Claw" better suited for steel, can handle a bit of concrete, but just a bit.
http://i1026.photobucket.com/albums/y325/bigbrotheriswatching_2010/P1020577_zps737198aa.jpg

Tight squeeze, but it went fast for the first section.
http://i1026.photobucket.com/albums/y325/bigbrotheriswatching_2010/P1020580_zpsb1ee30e0.jpg
http://i1026.photobucket.com/albums/y325/bigbrotheriswatching_2010/P1020579_zpse5ce3c20.jpg

2 hours later:
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http://i1026.photobucket.com/albums/y325/bigbrotheriswatching_2010/P1020578_zps0e6d8e11.jpg

2 hours the next day:
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http://i1026.photobucket.com/albums/y325/bigbrotheriswatching_2010/P1020581_zps15575ebc.jpg

View from above:
http://i1026.photobucket.com/albums/y325/bigbrotheriswatching_2010/P1020583_zps00d048d2.jpg

Local contractor was brought in with his S205 and hammer to go a 24" grid line, the concrete is fractured and breaks faster after I pull trusses down.
http://i1026.photobucket.com/albums/y325/bigbrotheriswatching_2010/P1020584_zps290ecc5e.jpg

Next stages will be pulling the beams down, and after the floor is gone, the elevator shaft structure and 3 walls that are 28 feet high will be knocked down, I start with a jackhammer to get a start on the top, and use a pulveriser on the rest. Another 2 weeks for sure.

ksss
12-16-2012, 01:38 PM
every one knows you dont grease a rental????? i thought that was common knowledge


I have never even seen a gease zerk on a rental. I thought they deleted the grease zerk option when they order them for rental fleets.

bobcat_ron
12-22-2012, 10:26 AM
Plans changed, the decision was made to pull the shear off, as some one thought it was "stressing" the building too much, so they went to plan B which was using the zoom boom and torches. So I carried on with the battering ram, after 3 days of that I was ready for a neck massage and a beer.
http://i1026.photobucket.com/albums/y325/bigbrotheriswatching_2010/P1020589_zpsef64eef5.jpg
http://i1026.photobucket.com/albums/y325/bigbrotheriswatching_2010/P1020587_zps5301fa92.jpg

And yes, that is a Deere, and yes, I absolutely HATED it, couldn't load a truck as fast as the Bobcat, lacked loader/bucket speed and it had even less dump height. Not too mention I have a grease stain on my knee from a glob that fell off the top of the bucket cylinder. What a stupid loader design!
http://i1026.photobucket.com/albums/y325/bigbrotheriswatching_2010/P1020592_zps48782f66.jpg
http://i1026.photobucket.com/albums/y325/bigbrotheriswatching_2010/P1020591_zpsee9f41de.jpg
http://i1026.photobucket.com/albums/y325/bigbrotheriswatching_2010/P1020593_zpsd8855e2c.jpg

The elevator shaft stands alone, that all comes down too.
http://i1026.photobucket.com/albums/y325/bigbrotheriswatching_2010/P1020596_zps9d9886d4.jpg
http://i1026.photobucket.com/albums/y325/bigbrotheriswatching_2010/P1020597_zpsa4015d2e.jpg
http://i1026.photobucket.com/albums/y325/bigbrotheriswatching_2010/P1020598_zps95b18a7d.jpg

32 loads of concrete went out so far.
http://i1026.photobucket.com/albums/y325/bigbrotheriswatching_2010/P1020599_zps923ef3a4.jpg

After the holidays the interior walls come down with the nibbler.

DodgeD300DumpTruck
12-24-2012, 11:48 AM
Ron why dont you like bobcats surfwood where a awsome dealer

bobcat_ron
12-24-2012, 05:42 PM
Ron why dont you like bobcats surfwood where a awsome dealer

If I had known that this job was this big and with a Bobcat, I would have turned it down, I can't stand the prehistoric control system. I prefer the Cats, greasing a Bobcat is a lesson and a game of hide-and-seek.
Surfwood and Bobcat Country have merged FYI since last year, the owner of Bobcat Country sold to Surfwood.
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newz7151
12-26-2012, 12:53 AM
this is a little off line of the thread, but... what kind of money does somebody have to have in order to do this to a building vs putting up a new one of finding a location better suited to the intended use? It almost looks like you've taken a very well built multi use building and turned it in to a big single use warehouse.. something that seems it would take the value to reuse for a different owner down by more than half.

bobcat_ron
12-26-2012, 07:37 AM
this is a little off line of the thread, but... what kind of money does somebody have to have in order to do this to a building vs putting up a new one of finding a location better suited to the intended use? It almost looks like you've taken a very well built multi use building and turned it in to a big single use warehouse.. something that seems it would take the value to reuse for a different owner down by more than half.



To build a building like this with an open concept would be in the 3-5 million dollar range, the former company went broke and all assests including this property were seized, and sold. So this building was sold for cheap, way less than fair market value. So what ever gets done to it is worth it as buying the equivalent or building new is not worth it.
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bobcat_ron
12-30-2012, 07:38 PM
More progress, all the walls are down and clean up is a PITA with the amount of rebar we have to deal with.
I made a new friend, his name is Mr. Mister, he blows air and a small water pump sprays water in the air.
It's totally portable with only 110V power needed and a water hose to fill the tank every 90 minutes.
http://i1026.photobucket.com/albums/y325/bigbrotheriswatching_2010/P1020619_zps13319a47.jpg

I got a start on the wall with a huge damn hammer, that was LOUD, and it proved why I had to use the "nibbler", those walls don't like being pushed on.
http://i1026.photobucket.com/albums/y325/bigbrotheriswatching_2010/P1020613_zps3d61a2c4.jpg

Nibbling through and down 7 walls.
http://i1026.photobucket.com/albums/y325/bigbrotheriswatching_2010/P1020614_zpsa72a5a8b.jpg
http://i1026.photobucket.com/albums/y325/bigbrotheriswatching_2010/P1020618_zps8f6b977f.jpg
http://i1026.photobucket.com/albums/y325/bigbrotheriswatching_2010/P1020620_zps01d07605.jpg

This was the only wall to stay up, a goof in the design of the building.
http://i1026.photobucket.com/albums/y325/bigbrotheriswatching_2010/P1020622_zpsc97f92d9.jpg

bobcat_ron
01-05-2013, 10:38 AM
Completed project, a bit of clean up here and there, but other wise it's done.
2 big end dumps were brought in to load out the trusses, stair cases and support beams. The steel cladding was punched into 2 40 yard roll off bins.
http://i1026.photobucket.com/albums/y325/bigbrotheriswatching_2010/P1020628_zpsa800715c.jpg
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http://i1026.photobucket.com/albums/y325/bigbrotheriswatching_2010/P1020635_zpscf9e7447.jpg

Another 18 loads of concrete went out.
http://i1026.photobucket.com/albums/y325/bigbrotheriswatching_2010/P1020632_zps5a736308.jpg
http://i1026.photobucket.com/albums/y325/bigbrotheriswatching_2010/P1020630_zps8da2b837.jpg
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I will NOT miss that Bobcat. :nono:

DodgeD300DumpTruck
01-05-2013, 10:50 AM
Ron do you have any vids of that job
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bobcat_ron
01-05-2013, 10:52 AM
Ron do you have any vids of that job
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I do, but I will put them together later.

bobcat_ron
01-05-2013, 02:01 PM
2 pics of the battering ram on the Bobcat.
http://i1026.photobucket.com/albums/y325/bigbrotheriswatching_2010/P1020644_zpsb3e7b80f.jpg
http://i1026.photobucket.com/albums/y325/bigbrotheriswatching_2010/P1020645_zps40af0179.jpg

bobcat_ron
01-07-2013, 02:51 PM
First video is up, Battering Ram on the Bobcat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qdk2ju1pos

bobcat_ron
01-12-2013, 05:49 PM
Another video up:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FySAMXO1YVg