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farmerknowsbest
12-15-2012, 10:47 AM
Hi there,

We finally picked up an articulated dump truck to keep our excavator swinging more efficiently. A volvo a25c circa 2000.

http://www.rbauction.com/equipment_images/2012314/large/3566186_1.jpg

The truck is 500km from home and I'll have to pass 3 active scales to get it home so I want to make sure I am legal. From my understanding of MTO rules. An articulated truck requires 8 chains and ratchet binders. Four on the cab end and four on the box end. Is this correct? I've seen several being floated around with only 6 chains, but I really do not believe that is legal.

Next question is about the tires. I don't really want to run the out riggers on the lowboy so the tires will hang over about 6 inches on each side. I can't see this being an issue but are the tires stiff enough to travel a long distance that way or do I need the out riggers and planks to fully support the tires? Without them 3/4 of the tire will be on the main deck so I think it will likely be ok.

Hearing some of your experiences would be helpful. Thanks.

Looking forward to getting this truck into action. We've got about 110ac of bush cleared so far this year ready to be burnt. Lots to clean up and this truck will really help move it along quickly.

Warren

Kepple Services
12-15-2012, 10:58 AM
8 chains unless you can lock the front and rear sections together mechanically but I would still run 8, and why not run the outriggers? If you have to travel that far, with the knowledge of having to go through 3 scales... why not? Local, I wouldnt bother, but I would for that trip.

AEL
12-15-2012, 04:49 PM
Hey Warren,
Nice truck you got there , taking it from Bolton to you i would make sure you have your outriggers and 8 chains. The MTO on 401 East are pretty strict. Make sure you have your overwidth permit for Kings Highways as well...

farmerknowsbest
12-15-2012, 05:20 PM
Hey Warren,
Nice truck you got there , taking it from Bolton to you i would make sure you have your outriggers and 8 chains. The MTO on 401 East are pretty strict. Make sure you have your overwidth permit for Kings Highways as well...


That's the easy one to get! It's actually free for farmers. The ridiculous ones are the counties. I thought SDG was bad! Peel practically wants to be written into your will!

Really? Only scale that's ever given me issues is Bowmanville East bound.

And rats, guess that means I'll have to un-sieze the out rigger arms. Sigh

Warren

AEL
12-15-2012, 06:08 PM
Peel Region is a disaster in General. I have never seen a Goverment so un organzied , and who could care less about waisting others tax money.

Dirtman2007
12-15-2012, 08:08 PM
dang last time they hauled one for me they just used 4 chains and binders lol

2004F550
12-17-2012, 03:21 PM
I don't use outriggers and usually 6 chains to move our Cat D350s, granted that is usually 40 miles and less, if I was going a long way I would run 8 chains and even outriggers probably.

farmerknowsbest
12-17-2012, 10:47 PM
Did all the measurements. Only 3 inches will hang out either side. I'm not going to go to all the effort of getting the outriggers installed to use so little of them. 80% of the rubber on the main deck is good enough for me especially with 8 chains. Thanks for the responses.

Warren

2004F550
12-18-2012, 05:29 PM
80% is plenty, I usually have between 50-60 on each

Scag48
12-20-2012, 01:01 AM
Make sure you cross-chain!

farmerknowsbest
12-20-2012, 05:38 PM
Hey Warren,
Nice truck you got there , taking it from Bolton to you i would make sure you have your outriggers and 8 chains. The MTO on 401 East are pretty strict. Make sure you have your overwidth permit for Kings Highways as well...

You were right. Oshawa scale pulled me and only me off. Shut the lights off right as I was on the ramps. Sucks to be them though, I was legal.

Warren

farmerknowsbest
12-20-2012, 05:46 PM
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/farmerknowsbest/2012-12-20083630_zps90eb2f88.jpg

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/farmerknowsbest/2012-12-20091244_zps814f7112.jpg

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/farmerknowsbest/2012-12-20091342_zpsc9f473f2.jpg

Definitely glad I ignored the out rigger comments!
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/farmerknowsbest/2012-12-20091553_zps6fa917ac.jpg

8 chains is a lot!
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/farmerknowsbest/2012-12-20102451_zps1cb930a7.jpg

And home.
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/farmerknowsbest/2012-12-20164414_zpsc9022b16.jpg

Warren

MesaVerdeLM
12-24-2012, 06:26 PM
It looks like you got yourself a nice new semi tractor. We sure could use an update on everything Warren.

William
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P.Services
12-24-2012, 07:10 PM
Do you keep your shops heated all winter or just when your working inside?

how are those tube heaters on the fuel bill?


Im thinking about installing a BIG outdoor wood burner for my shop so i can heat it all winter day and night.

bobcat_ron
12-24-2012, 09:51 PM
You got the narrow wheels, you should see how wide the fat tire option is, they get real scary loading with out a good spotter.
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farmerknowsbest
12-24-2012, 10:28 PM
Do you keep your shops heated all winter or just when your working inside?

how are those tube heaters on the fuel bill?


Im thinking about installing a BIG outdoor wood burner for my shop so i can heat it all winter day and night.

Yes, the shop is heated all winter. We are fortunate enough to have natural gas lines running past the farm. Also due to the extremely large volume we go through each fall drying corn our rate is about 10% of residential. Very cheap to keep the shop at 50 degrees.

Warren