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gallihergreen
12-29-2012, 12:05 PM
http://www.truckpaper.com/listingsdetail/detail.aspx?OHID=3827439

What do you guy's think of this rig? I've been tossing around the idea of picking something like this up and throwing a landscape bed on it. I could also put a dump on for hardscapes, and a leaf collection body for fall. Anybody run one of these units? Give me some feedback.
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gallihergreen
12-29-2012, 12:08 PM
http://m.truckpaper.com/ListingDetail/Index?listingId=3827439&categoryId=802
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willretire@40
12-29-2012, 12:08 PM
6.0 is the omly problem with it.
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gallihergreen
12-29-2012, 12:09 PM
6.0 is the omly problem with it.
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It's an '08
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willretire@40
12-29-2012, 12:12 PM
Sorry didnt follow link thought you was talking about the 2003 on truck paper
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alldayrj
12-29-2012, 12:18 PM
Looks like a good low mileage truck. Not sure on price or empty weight but i don't think that lift system leaves much payload. Obviously doesnt matter on leaves or mulch but probably with stone etc. i like that plow.
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willretire@40
12-29-2012, 12:59 PM
Looks good.

gallihergreen
12-29-2012, 01:00 PM
Sorry didnt follow link thought you was talking about the 2003 on truck paper. sorry
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No problemo
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gallihergreen
12-29-2012, 05:18 PM
http://www.classyauto.com/v/GMC+Kodiak/C4500+Diesel+Switch+and+Go+Flat+Bed+4x4/106638
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gallihergreen
12-29-2012, 05:20 PM
I've also found the above truck. '06 GMC 4500 4x4 diesel with Switch 'N' Go system and two bodies(flatbed and contractor dump) 39,000 miles for $36,500.
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gallihergreen
12-31-2012, 12:41 PM
Anybody know about how much the SnG bodies go for?
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gallihergreen
12-31-2012, 02:42 PM
What about this rig? New 2013 TerraStar with SnG system. $59,000 seems like a pretty good price for a brand new truck with full warranty.
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gallihergreen
12-31-2012, 02:43 PM
http://m.truckpaper.com/ListingDetail/Index?listingId=3921961&categoryId=802
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EverestLandscape
12-31-2012, 10:25 PM
The dumpster bodies are around $2,500 for the medium duty, which is about 13.5 yards on a 11' chassis. I'm getting a SNG in 2013 and ive been pricing everything out. Im getting the truck from a friend and he says the only bodies to get are the medium duty...the light duty is too light and the heavy duty are made like tanks and take away GVW from the truck.

BrandonV
01-01-2013, 08:17 AM
We had the med duty bodies. They are the way to go.
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Duekster
01-01-2013, 11:07 AM
We had the med duty bodies. They are the way to go.
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Had? :confused:

ryde307
01-01-2013, 11:52 AM
Here are some pics of our 550 with stellar hook.
After owning one I would not go with out now.
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d36/ryde307/IMG_20111229_095453.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d36/ryde307/550rolloff.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d36/ryde307/CIMG0508.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d36/ryde307/CIMG0514.jpg
First is a 10 yard box we use for mulch and light debris as well as hauling snow.
Second is same box moving a skid. It is overweight. This size truck will not replace a trailer but we needed to move the skid a few miles and the was no trailer around.
3rd is building a leaf box.
4th is Building a contractor box. We use this box daily on is what is on the truck the most.
We also have a salt box with salter mounted at all times. I will look for more pics.

The truck is great. I wish the rear axle was farther back though. It is pretty easy to overload the truck. The truck scales around 12k lbs typically. In perspective our 08 dump is in the 11.5k range. So in this size not a huge payload loss but they are not huge capacity trucks to start.

ryde307
01-01-2013, 12:07 PM
Here are some more.
Hauling snow.
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d36/ryde307/IMAG0062.jpg
Salt box.
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d36/ryde307/550.jpg
Leaf set up.
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d36/ryde307/20121030_101502_zps8b460d5f.jpg

Bodies can be hard to find. Not alot of 36" hook height bodies around. If you do find them they can be anywhere from 1-5k $. We have pretty good fab abilities so that helps to build or customize what we want.

The big difference from switch n go to a stellar is stellar is a hook and switch n go is a cable system. I have not used a switch n go but advantages for a hook are its faster to load easier to move boxes around and no worries about a cable snapping. A cable system would have cheaper boxes however and easier to build them.

gallihergreen
01-01-2013, 12:31 PM
That's a good lookin' truck ryde307! I appreciate the feedback. I plan to use either truck for light landscape duties(hauling brush and mulch, limited quantities of stone, fall cleanups, and junk removal) I feel like the SnG would probably be better(and as you mentioned cheaper) for what I plan to use it for, but if I go with the hooklift I could possibly add dumpster rental to my list of services and bring in additional income. I feel like the hooklift would also last longer, but being heavier built it eats up more payload. With that said I'm still considering each of the three trucks posted. I like the Ford, but as you mentioned the hooklift bodies are more expensive, but at $46,000 it's a decent deal and only has 30,000 miles on it. The GMC is by far the best deal, but the truck is in Nevada and I'm looking at atleast a couple grand to have it shipped, plus it's the oldest of the three. The IH is the highest priced, but I get a brand new truck and it's right here in NC so I could make a little trip one weekend and avoid paying a shipper.
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BrandonV
01-01-2013, 12:33 PM
Long story short is Ford built a poor quality truck. In the four years with the truck it spent a good 4.5 months at the mechanic, Ford constantly sent people out to look at it and they all said all there is no problem. Of course you would drive it somewhere and it will stall on the side of the highway, you would pull out from stop sign and the truck was shut itself off in the middle of an intersection and the engine would overheat, telling you to shut it down... but according to Ford it's supposed to do that. We also had this sng landscape landscape bed for ours that we had on most of the time and Ford was thinking it was probably overloaded (19.5gvw) because of it having a walker and a Ferris mower on the back. We were big ford people at one time we've had about 23 fords in the fleet over the years but here lately everything's been going mitfuso.
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BrandonV
01-01-2013, 12:40 PM
I don't know how much the SNG hyd winch unit is but if its not outrageous I'd have no problem buying it over the electric it'd greatly speed up both dumping and loading electric dumps really stink if you using the truck as a dump truck cycle times start adding up.

gallihergreen
01-01-2013, 08:52 PM
What do you guys think of this '04 F-650? C-7 Cat, Allison auto, and 20,000lb hooklift with 10 cans. 66,000 miles for $67,500.
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gallihergreen
01-01-2013, 08:53 PM
http://www.classyauto.com/v/Ford+F650/Rolloff+Diesel+with+10+Boxes+Single+Axel/104267
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EverestLandscape
01-01-2013, 09:33 PM
That seems like a killer deal, especially with 10 cans and automatic. Thats just a HUGE wheel base to get into some tighter areas and if the streets where you work are narrow and what not:dancing: Just thinking out loud

Krafty
01-03-2013, 10:44 AM
A switch n go and a hook lift are two totally different animals. I have owned both, and I would like to emphasize how LIGHT DUTY a switch n go is.

david bailey
01-06-2013, 09:57 PM
I'm in raleigh too! My next truck would be a system like that maybe but I do some trash work. I run a F-750 now tho with a 14 ft dump bed and a lined bed.

nonamelandscaping
01-08-2013, 10:47 AM
A hook truck is GREAT for the landscaping industry! Do NOT go with a switch n go or cable system. SLOW and Dangerous. Hook systems are great, only need one truck and you can have many different bodies. Drop a box on a job site and guys can just wheel barrow heavy materials right into it very easily. Get a low pro box so you can load over the sides easy with small machines like a toro dingo, bobcat mt50 or vermeer s800. We had a tall box for brush as well. Flat bed for hauling things like a water tank. Landscape body for loading mowers and small equipment on. Ours was a 36 inch hook height, one cyl system. Worked just fine for what we did. One truck replaced about 5. We could drop off boxes at all different job sites all at the same time. We had a steller on a T6500. Perfect set up. Powerful cat motor and the truck was big enough to haul whatever. Just under cdl was nice so anyone could drive it. for a smaller company looking to get bigger or more efficient a hook truck will do it. Or for a larger company wanting to replace many trucks with one... this is the way to do it. They only down fall is the cost. To find a good condition truck, with a good system at a fair to cheap price is super hard. These systems are not cheap. Also the boxes and bodies are very expensive as the cost of metal has gone way up. Try and find a company going out of busn. but it right.