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Greg78
01-01-2013, 10:52 AM
Was just doing some routing maintenance on our Dixie Chopper Classic 2750 and while checking hydro fluid level noticed a sticker on the reservoir that said to check the gearbox oil every 50 hours and to fill the the top of cross shaft IIRC. I didn't see any cap only a fitting with a vent hose coming out of the top. So my question is how do I check the gearbox? I looked in my manual and got nothing.

BigFish
01-01-2013, 01:55 PM
Clean all the dirt off and either remove the fitting or pop the cover off( 4 screws)

Greg78
01-01-2013, 01:55 PM
Thanks Fish.
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Richard Martin
01-02-2013, 09:17 AM
What year is the T gear box? If it has 2 hoses entering it from the hydro tank, don't bother. If you remove the cover the tank will empty it's self down to the point where the hoses are tapped into the tank. For some reason, and I had a Dixie with that sticker, they put that sticker on and the T gear box does not need to be checked, since it fills automatically from the hydro tank.

Greg78
01-02-2013, 09:23 PM
What year is the T gear box? If it has 2 hoses entering it from the hydro tank, don't bother. If you remove the cover the tank will empty it's self down to the point where the hoses are tapped into the tank. For some reason, and I had a Dixie with that sticker, they put that sticker on and the T gear box does not need to be checked, since it fills automatically from the hydro tank.

Richard it's a 2011.

Richard Martin
01-03-2013, 06:29 AM
Big Fish is right. They've changed it again. But... I'll be honest with you. Checking it every 50 hours is a little overkill. If you don't see any signs of leakage on the outside then I don't see the point. I would check it with every oil change. I don't like the idea of taking that cover off that often and exposing the gears and bearings to the risk of contamination if you don't have to.

Greg78
01-03-2013, 07:10 AM
Thanks Richard and Fish.

Greg78
02-08-2013, 05:00 PM
So I heard awhile back that Dixie was bringing back the Classic which I was happy about as I really am liking ours more and more and will be needing to retire our old Exmark Lazer and will probably add another Classic.

I was looking through the 2013 Classic owners manual and saw that they have added a T-Box overflow tank. I think that is a good idea and will probably see if I can get one to add to ours.

Richard Martin
02-09-2013, 07:05 AM
So I heard awhile back that Dixie was bringing back the Classic which I was happy about as I really am liking ours more and more and will be needing to retire our old Exmark Lazer and will probably add another Classic.

I was looking through the 2013 Classic owners manual and saw that they have added a T-Box overflow tank. I think that is a good idea and will probably see if I can get one to add to ours.

I don't know why they did away with the previous setup that worked excellent. They just ran the hydro fluid through the T gear box.

piston slapper
02-09-2013, 07:35 AM
The Tboxes that were plumbed to the hydro tanks had a few issues..
The hydro fluid is a good lubricant for roller bearings but not for metal to metal differential type gears..
The gears would wear quicker and all that metal ended up in the hydro tanks and ultimately clogged the hydro filters..
If the Tbox seals leaked...it would drain half the hydro tank..

Richard Martin
02-09-2013, 09:03 AM
The Tboxes that were plumbed to the hydro tanks had a few issues..
The hydro fluid is a good lubricant for roller bearings but not for metal to metal differential type gears..
The gears would wear quicker and all that metal ended up in the hydro tanks and ultimately clogged the hydro filters..
If the Tbox seals leaked...it would drain half the hydro tank..

The "hydro" fluid is just regular engine oil.

I see about your other points though. I hadn't heard of these problems but I'm sure someone had them or Dixie wouldn't have changed the system.

The reason I could think of is if there is a major hydro pump or wheel motor failure, all of that crap in the oil could get into the T gear box because that is not filtered.

piston slapper
02-09-2013, 09:41 AM
The fleet mowers...the mowers that run 8 to 10 hrs a day..year after year..experienced these problems..
I converted a few flatlanders to the conventional gear oil setup and they stopped eating pumps and wheelmotors..
Coincedence..???......perhaps....
Just my observations...

Greg78
02-09-2013, 01:28 PM
Piston and Richard you guys are 2 of my favorite posters. Always very informative... Thanks to both of you for the knowledge you share with the forum.

Lbilawncare
02-10-2013, 01:20 AM
I added the overflow tanks to my machines, a little pricey but worth it. Mine all use gear lube, sealed t-boxes. Before I added the tanks I would check them at every oil change, or 50hrs. Most of the time they were just a bit low.

lawn co
09-15-2013, 11:33 AM
I have a flat lander that leaks between the tbox and the pumps, is this a fairly simple repair, it seems to be the o ring between the tbox and pumps. Also is the conversion to conventional gear oil set up something you would do for me.

lawn co
09-15-2013, 11:34 AM
That was for piston slapper

piston slapper
09-15-2013, 12:08 PM
If the leak is between the pump and the Tbox...replacing the orings might fix the leak...there are also gaskets between the Tbox and the aluminum mounting plates....
Is it an easy fix .???...it might go easy.??
As far as converting it to gear oil instead of feeding fluid from the hydrotank...it prolly wouldn't hurt anything...

Your post seems to imply that you want me to personally perform this repair...???
I have a real job....thanx anyway....

lawn co
09-15-2013, 12:45 PM
Thanks for the fast reply. Seems like you know of problems I might run into, can you give me a few pointers to help me out. Dealers here leave things undone so I am better off doing it myself.
I know cutting grass sucks but I do consider it a real job. It let me spend a lot of time with my boys growing up, one of which is in Afghanistan know!

lawn co
09-15-2013, 12:49 PM
OOOpppps now, I meant

piston slapper
09-15-2013, 02:17 PM
I would just change the orings..
I'm guessing you have 2 hoses from the hydrotank to the Tbox...
Get a piece of 3/8 hose and connect the 2 barbs on the hydrotank...bypassing the Tbox..
Put an oildrain bucket under the Tbox before you start..as any fluid in the Tbox will be on the ground when you remove the pumps.
Disconnect the control rods to the pumps...
Remove the 9/16 nuts that hold the pumps to the Tbox..
Do not remove any hoses from the pumps...
Replace 1 oring at a time...wiggle the pump till it releases from the tbox..
Pull the pump out far enough to RNR the oring... replace the oring.
slide the pump back into the tbox...you may have to slightly move the top gear. In the tbox to get the gears to mesh...
Do both sides...bolt it back together...add gearoil to the tbox until it is above the pump shaft...

lawn co
09-15-2013, 05:25 PM
Thanks, and you have helped me before, I just never had to directly ask for help. Nothing better than speaking to a pro. By the way what's that real job. If you do not work in the industry you should. Like I said before thanks and I appreciate the help.

piston slapper
09-15-2013, 06:54 PM
My real job is maintaining every piece of eqpt for a semi large landscape company....
When I'm not at work....I don't work on too much stuff...
Think of me .....as the guy behind the scenes that nobody sees and that keeps everything working..
Anonymity serves me well..
Kinda like...The Wizard of Oz....

lawn co
09-16-2013, 06:56 AM
I kind of figured something like that, I need a real job one day!!! I have been cutting grass for a lot of years and you and a couple other people on this site are a tremendous help. If I had a shop that was dependable and not full of ****, I would just take it in. Why does a Dixie chopper hurt my back soo much more than a Scag. Tire pressure or seat. Thank you sir.

Snyder's Lawn Inc
09-16-2013, 08:32 AM
I kind of figured something like that, I need a real job one day!!! I have been cutting grass for a lot of years and you and a couple other people on this site are a tremendous help. If I had a shop that was dependable and not full of ****, I would just take it in. Why does a Dixie chopper hurt my back soo much more than a Scag. Tire pressure or seat. Thank you sir.

Could be tires and tire pressure and could be seat You have any photos

Realslowww
09-17-2013, 09:34 AM
Doesn't Dixie use a hot shuttle on some of their mowers on the hydro set up?