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spitfire3416
01-10-2013, 02:19 PM
So I've been breaking down my prices today and I'm curious to know what guys are charging for 10k sq ft of grass.. not 10k sq ft lot size, but the actual area being cut. Just your typical mow, trim and blow. And assuming the land is flat without relatively any hills or major obstacles.

CowboysLawnCareDelaware
01-10-2013, 02:59 PM
Where do you live? 10k sq ft would be about a $30 job for me personally in North Delaware. That is the going rate around here, most of the elderly clients ask for an extra discount so I will cut there's for $20-$25 if they can refer one of their neighbors. They always are able to get at least one neighbor, both streets that I did that deal on I will now have a combined 7 lawns all in the same size range with one corner lot, apprx. 15k sq ft.

In Central or Southern Delaware they all have large lots and most buy their own zero turn mowers. It all depends on where you live.

-Michael

LandFakers
01-10-2013, 03:06 PM
That's a pretty small area, but I don't drop the gate for less than $35.

hackitdown
01-10-2013, 03:09 PM
For me, it is more about time than size. Time includes travel time, ease of loading/unloading, trimming, everything.

CowboysLawnCareDelaware
01-10-2013, 03:13 PM
Never mind, I underestimated 10k sq ft, I used "measure it" and realized that my 10k is closer to 5-6k.

-Michael

http://servicevines.com/jobs/measureit

pseudosun
01-10-2013, 03:13 PM
agree with hackitdown. Alot is considered when giving a price. I never measured a property, because they're all different.

spitfire3416
01-10-2013, 03:13 PM
Where do you live? 10k sq ft would be about a $30 job for me personally in North Delaware. That is the going rate around here, most of the elderly clients ask for an extra discount so I will cut there's for $20-$25 if they can refer one of their neighbors. They always are able to get at least one neighbor, both streets that I did that deal on I will now have a combined 7 lawns all in the same size range with one corner lot, apprx. 15k sq ft.

In Central or Southern Delaware they all have large lots and most buy their own zero turn mowers. It all depends on where you live.

-Michael

I'm in central jersey. Most houses that are 10k sq ft only have roughly 5k of grass though. Are you talking entire lot size? For example a 10k sq ft lot would take me about 25 min to cut by myself but I'm not really cutting 10k sf ft in grass.

spitfire3416
01-10-2013, 03:21 PM
For me, it is more about time than size. Time includes travel time, ease of loading/unloading, trimming, everything.

no i understand that but what I'm realizing now after looking at a lot of my customers on zillow is that my customers who are twice the size are only paying $40-45 a cut. the norm in my area for small houses are $30-35 for a small 10k lot. that's usually the minimum. but if i go and give an estimate to somebody with a 20k lot the most i'll usually get is $45. i'm starting to wonder if people just have some kind of cut off as to how much they want to pay. i mean why cut one lawn for $40 that takes an hour when i can cut another one for $30 that takes me a half hour. basically i'm just trying to see if other guys have this problem out there. if it's taking double the amount of time one would figure that they should be getting double the price. however, it just doesn't seem to work out this way...

jsslawncare
01-10-2013, 03:51 PM
[QUOTE=pseudosun;4639333]agree with hackitdown. Alot is considered when giving a price. I never measured a property, because they're all different.[/QUOT


Me either.

spitfire3416
01-10-2013, 04:05 PM
[QUOTE=pseudosun;4639333]agree with hackitdown. Alot is considered when giving a price. I never measured a property, because they're all different.[/QUOT


Me either.

So then how do you give your estimates when they ask "how much do you charge?" do you cut it first, and then tell them? Cause that would really be the only way one could estimate based on time. Ideally, that would be the best way but people want a price up front. Wouldn't you agree?
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FYS777
01-10-2013, 04:43 PM
flat not much in the way, 10k of grass, mow edge blow. $80

pseudosun
01-10-2013, 04:48 PM
I've learned to never give a price upfront. I've tightened my radius, so i don't mind driving to see the property. Lots of huge oaks around here; gotta see it first.

spitfire3416
01-10-2013, 04:48 PM
flat not much in the way, 10k of grass, mow edge blow. $80

$80 to cut, edge and blow 10k sq ft of grass!?! Man, you're the second guy on this site I've seen from Oregon to post some astronomical prices. I need to move to Oregon..

LandFakers
01-10-2013, 04:52 PM
$80?!?! Wow! Anybody selling property in Oregon?

pseudosun
01-10-2013, 04:53 PM
I'd say that $80 is very high for 10k square feet. An average lot here is (100 X 150), and i'm guessing the range is $30 - $60? I have a bunch of 40's and 50's around here.

FYS777
01-10-2013, 05:12 PM
I'd say that $80 is very high for 10k square feet. An average lot here is (100 X 150), and i'm guessing the range is $30 - $60? I have a bunch of 40's and 50's around here.

not high here, most residents lawns not lots here are from around 15 hundred feet to 5k. range from $30 to $60 depends were at in town.

spitfire3416
01-10-2013, 05:17 PM
not high here, most residents lawns not lots here are from around 15 hundred feet to 5k. range from $30 to $60 depends were at in town.

that's utterly insane.. i seriously need to get out of jersey

jc1
01-10-2013, 05:33 PM
Really you are selling time. So figuring a price comes down to the equipment you will use and how long it will take. We have property's that are cut with a 21 that are $40 and we have ones that we cut with a 52 that are $40.

jsslawncare
01-10-2013, 05:35 PM
[QUOTE=jsslawncare;4639378]

So then how do you give your estimates when they ask "how much do you charge?" do you cut it first, and then tell them? Cause that would really be the only way one could estimate based on time. Ideally, that would be the best way but people want a price up front. Wouldn't you agree?
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I've never cut a yard first to just see.
I guess I've done it long enough. After a while the yards start to look alike to me.

CowboysLawnCareDelaware
01-10-2013, 05:46 PM
I was talking about the lawn, not the whole lot.

-Michael

spitfire3416
01-10-2013, 05:53 PM
Really you are selling time. So figuring a price comes down to the equipment you will use and how long it will take. We have property's that are cut with a 21 that are $40 and we have ones that we cut with a 52 that are $40.

yea i get that. so then what do you charge for time? i try to base all my estimates on $60 an hour or $1 a minute. So let's say if a lawn takes me 30 min to cut by myself I would charge anywhere between $30-35. usually try to get a little extra for in between drive time

Will P.C.
01-10-2013, 10:08 PM
My area for ~10k of actual grass with minimal obstacles is 35-50 for a legit company.

My lot is close to 10k and I have pay the guy 40 to do it when not around.

You also have plenty of questionable places doing these yards for 20-25 up to 14k actual grass.

Brucelawns
01-11-2013, 01:18 AM
My area for ~10k of actual grass with minimal obstacles is 35-50 for a legit company.

My lot is close to 10k and I have pay the guy 40 to do it when not around.

You also have plenty of questionable places doing these yards for 20-25 up to 14k actual grass.

Why would you pay someone to do your lawn if you work in the industry? If you don't then, carry on. Just wondering. Not being nosey.

$80 just to mow a 10k lawn? Come on now! I'ves gots to sees its to believes its.

FYS777
01-11-2013, 03:09 AM
It be true sir.
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orangemower
01-11-2013, 09:14 AM
Why would you pay someone to do your lawn if you work in the industry? If you don't then, carry on. Just wondering. Not being nosey.

$80 just to mow a 10k lawn? Come on now! I'ves gots to sees its to believes its.

Just because you're in the industry doesn't mean you have to do your own lawn. I know a couple of guys that pay another company to cut their personal lawn. Last year I had a few weeks where I didn't have the time to cut my own lawn. At one point I worked 48 straight days without a day off. It's hard to find the time or the energy to deal with it after a 10-12hr day in the heat.

Landscraper1
01-11-2013, 10:30 AM
$45 an hour, per man. Period. Figure out how long you will take, then price.

Darryl G
01-11-2013, 10:41 AM
10k sq ft is a pretty small lawn to me and would probably fit within my minimum of $40 as long as it doesn't take more than 1/2 hour to service it.

gardensmith
01-11-2013, 03:45 PM
$45 an hour, per man. Period. Figure out how long you will take, then price.

Would you price the same for a man using a 21" and a 36"WB?
Interested as I'm looking at getting a bigger machine. I want to get through my bigger areas Quicker and charge the same not less!

Landscraper1
01-11-2013, 04:05 PM
Would you price the same for a man using a 21" and a 36"WB?
Interested as I'm looking at getting a bigger machine. I want to get through my bigger areas Quicker and charge the same not less!

It becomes difficult to separate each item like that. My rates are according to which service I am providing. Here is the breakdown on per hour per man. This should help many to estimate jobs:

Weekly cutting = $45
Landscape Construction = $45
Shrub trimming, Spring and fall cleanups and other = $40
Weeding - $35
Lawn Care or Spraying = $60

**Other Equipment charges with $200 min:

Bobcat S185 = $40
Bobcat S250 = $42
Bobcat T300 = $50
Mini Ex = $50
Chipper = $40
Mulch Blower = $40
Backhoe = $50
Bucket Truck = $35

Hope this helps.

Brucelawns
01-11-2013, 05:49 PM
[QUOTE=orangemower;4640281]Just because you're in the industry doesn't mean you have to do your own lawn. I know a couple of guys that pay another company to cut their personal lawn. Last year I had a few weeks where I didn't have the time to cut my own lawn. At one point I worked 48 straight days without a day off. It's hard to find the time or the energy to deal with it after a 10-12hr day in the heat.[/QUOT

Orange Mower that question wasn't for you. Like I said I wasn't trying to be nosey but you are. Makes no sense to have someone else mow your lawn when you are in the business. No sense at all. And that is my opinion. Pretty dang good opinion. I'm proud of that opinion and it makes sense. 48 straight days is pretty impressive. I wouldn't, haven't and will not work that many days in a row. I hire people to do the work. See how I did that? Ha!

spitfire3416
01-11-2013, 06:00 PM
$45 an hour, per man. Period. Figure out how long you will take, then price.

nah I charge $60 an hour. if a lawn takes me 30 min to cut I'm not charging no $22.50

Landscraper1
01-11-2013, 06:23 PM
nah I charge $60 an hour. if a lawn takes me 30 min to cut I'm not charging no $22.50

I don't blame you. There are other factors. I don't have any jobs nearly that small. Jobs that small should have a minimum charge.

Will P.C.
01-11-2013, 06:40 PM
[QUOTE=orangemower;4640281]Just because you're in the industry doesn't mean you have to do your own lawn. I know a couple of guys that pay another company to cut their personal lawn. Last year I had a few weeks where I didn't have the time to cut my own lawn. At one point I worked 48 straight days without a day off. It's hard to find the time or the energy to deal with it after a 10-12hr day in the heat.[/QUOT

Orange Mower that question wasn't for you. Like I said I wasn't trying to be nosey but you are. Makes no sense to have someone else mow your lawn when you are in the business. No sense at all. And that is my opinion. Pretty dang good opinion. I'm proud of that opinion and it makes sense. 48 straight days is pretty impressive. I wouldn't, haven't and will not work that many days in a row. I hire people to do the work. See how I did that? Ha!

I began having to travel for work and there are times when rest and recovery are more important than cutting my own yard in the 100+ degree heat.

I often talk to mechanics where I get my car serviced. It is pretty common
for them to say the last thing they feel like doing is changing the oil in there cars.