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AkRowdyA78
01-10-2013, 06:41 PM
Today, I wanted to take the wheels off my trailer but ran into a dilemma on one wheel. 4 Lug nuts came off okay, the other lug nut just keeps spinning along with it's stud. My question is how do I remove it. My friend said just to torch it off, but seeing that I don't have access to a torch, I can't do it unless I want to take it to a shop. I thought about cutting the nut off with an angle grinder then take a nail punch and hit the stud through the other side, but I wasn't sure if that would damage it even more. Is it worth messing with, or should I take it to someone who can torch it? Thanks Andy.

dstifel
01-10-2013, 06:47 PM
Can't grab the stud with a pair of vice grips can you?

ecurbthims
01-10-2013, 06:50 PM
the angle grinder will work .

AkRowdyA78
01-10-2013, 07:00 PM
Can't grab the stud with a pair of vice grips can you?

I dont have a big enough open ended wrench (13/16) to loosen the nut to hold it with the vice grips.... Might have to make a trip to the tool store.

larryinalabama
01-10-2013, 07:04 PM
Sometime you can break them off with a sldge hammer

sjessen
01-10-2013, 07:24 PM
Sometime you can break them off with a sldge hammer

Have heard of people stealing tires and wheels by breaking the nut and bolt off using a 4 way lug nut wrench.

LandFakers
01-10-2013, 07:36 PM
Have heard of people stealing tires and wheels by breaking the nut and bolt off using a 4 way lug nut wrench.
This is no joke! I've seen a trailer with it done

Monroe74
01-11-2013, 01:40 PM
Have you taken the drum off already? If you take the axle bearing off it should come off with the wheel and exposing the back of the drum so you can grind the stud off.

weaver
01-11-2013, 02:09 PM
Have you taken the drum off already? If you take the axle bearing off it should come off with the wheel and exposing the back of the drum so you can grind the stud off.

That's what i would do also...

jones68
01-11-2013, 02:29 PM
agreed.. pull the drum grind it off get a new one. had to do this on my trailer back in july

AkRowdyA78
01-11-2013, 05:00 PM
Have you taken the drum off already? If you take the axle bearing off it should come off with the wheel and exposing the back of the drum so you can grind the stud off.
I dont even have the wheel off yet, because of the spinning nut and stud. I think I'll end up cutting the nut off. Hopefully then I can take the wheel off and hit the stud through with a hammer.

jones68
01-11-2013, 05:10 PM
You can pull the drum and rim off at the same time
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Monroe74
01-12-2013, 12:44 AM
To get the wheel and drum off without removing the wheel.
1 remove dust cap from axle
2 loosen nut inside axle
3 remove washer
4 pull wheel and brake drum will come off with wheel also a tapered roller bearing will drop out.
It will be a good idea to clean and repack bearing and inspect brakes and wiring if trailer is equip.

weaver
01-12-2013, 01:20 AM
To get the wheel and drum off without removing the wheel.
1 remove dust cap from axle
2 loosen nut inside axle
3 remove washer
4 pull wheel and brake drum will come off with wheel also a tapered roller bearing will drop out.
It will be a good idea to clean and repack bearing and inspect brakes and wiring if trailer is equip.

What he said...
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AkRowdyA78
01-12-2013, 02:43 PM
To get the wheel and drum off without removing the wheel.
1 remove dust cap from axle
2 loosen nut inside axle
3 remove washer
4 pull wheel and brake drum will come off with wheel also a tapered roller bearing will drop out.
It will be a good idea to clean and repack bearing and inspect brakes and wiring if trailer is equip.
I did what you said, and it seemed to work pretty good. I don't have brakes on my trailer so I didn't worry about that part. I just took the whole wheel/rotor to a shop and he charged me $15 bucks to torch the old stud out and put a new one in. The only thing I have left to do is put the bearings back in.
- When I took out the washer it had a tit on it. Im not sure which way it should be facing. I thinking towards the nut, but I thought I'd ask. Also found it funny there was no cotter pin. Not even a hole in the nut for one.
Thanks everyone for your help thus far.

AkRowdyA78
01-12-2013, 06:49 PM
This is the piece that I was talking about. Looks that there should be two points instead of one.

weaver
01-12-2013, 06:51 PM
This is the piece that I was talking about. Looks that there should be two points instead of one.

I think your washer is messed up...

AkRowdyA78
01-12-2013, 06:55 PM
Yeah I wonder if that's the only piece I should replace. They other bearings aren't scorched and look to be in good condition.

weaver
01-12-2013, 06:58 PM
Yeah I wonder if that's the only piece I should replace. They other bearings aren't scorched and look to be in good condition.

I would just clean everything up and check the spindle and everything else for damage and go from there.. Probably just replace the washer and all should be fine...

Monroe74
01-13-2013, 09:16 AM
Definitely not right clean everything up check your bearings after they are clean.
They should move freely no snagging there should be no burn marks and no pitting on the bearing or the races.
Only thing i can tell from pic is one of two things happened the bearing was put on to tight or it wasnt greased enough most trailer recommend greasing the axles every 3k cheaper ones more often.

cpllawncare
01-14-2013, 10:00 PM
During the off season I take a day or two and just tear down the trailer and replace all the bearings, clean and inspect everything wiring, lights and all, then give it a good cleaning and paint job, that usually gets me through the season with little to no trailer maint, put new tires on her last oct to. I see so many guys that their trailers look like they just came out of a war zone.

jsslawncare
01-15-2013, 09:39 AM
You need to spot weld the stud you replaced. When the stud spun in the hub it removed metal and the press fit will not be as tight and will spin again.

AkRowdyA78
01-15-2013, 07:10 PM
Well turns out that washer with the broken teeth on it is called a Tang washer.. Never heard of them until just now. Anyways, I picked a replacement up and put everything back together.
Last thing I wanted to ask was when you grab the left and right or top and bottom sides of the tire, is it alright is they move a little? Not overly sloppy by any means. Just enough to hear it move a tad when you try and move it?

Monroe74
01-15-2013, 09:26 PM
The way ive always done it is tighten till the bearing locks up then back it off till there is nice free movement and no play.