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zechstoker
01-16-2013, 04:44 PM
A customer of mine just asked me about this tree she has in the backyard, and wanted to know what we can do to save it from completely falling over. My idea was to maybe prop it up with a post from the left side by the house, and anchor it to the fence on the right side with a rope or wire. Would this work? What would be the most ideal way to fixing this? I told her I'd look into different options before giving her a price for this little job she wants done. Any suggestions/advice? Please and thank you!

grandview (2006)
01-16-2013, 04:59 PM
Cut it down and replace. It will take a few years to straighten it out

knox gsl
01-16-2013, 05:10 PM
Why is it leaning?

zechstoker
01-16-2013, 05:46 PM
Why is it leaning?

I was looking at it, and wondering that myself. I didn't notice while I was there, but in the pic, it looks like there's a crack at the bottom of the trunk. Could just be glare from the sun, but I'm not sure. I'll have to take a 2nd look in person to confirm.

elbow300
01-16-2013, 05:56 PM
It looks like the tree is poorly placed anyway. Its way too big for the amount of space available now, and its still fairly young. She is going to have to constantly prune to keep it off the house.

knox gsl
01-16-2013, 06:04 PM
Take a saw to it and then try something suited for the area.

zechstoker
01-16-2013, 06:24 PM
It looks like the tree is poorly placed anyway. Its way too big for the amount of space available now, and its still fairly young. She is going to have to constantly prune to keep it off the house.

It's definitely poorly placed, and there's a 2nd one of these that's smack up against the fence too about 15 feet away :hammerhead:. Whoever planted these needs their head examined.

LandFakers
01-16-2013, 06:27 PM
Cut down and replace. That seems a little far gone. You can see in the pick, the very bottom of the trunk is curved pretty good

ed2hess
01-16-2013, 10:53 PM
Simply drive a steel post close to fence and tie tree to it. Then even out the load on the tree by thining. It will be fine.

Smallaxe
01-17-2013, 10:15 AM
Simply cut the crown down to half its current size and prune the side branches drastically as well... Its only too large if it isn't properly pruned... she has a tree that has outgrown the shade, between the house and the wooden fence... throwing it away becuz you don't feel like pruning is simply a waste...
What would you plant in a shady narrow spot like that , that doesn't need pruning???
We are in the habit of pruning lots of things on a regular basis because we don't have any perfect plants... :)

larryinalabama
01-17-2013, 10:20 AM
All trees in California are staked. It looks like their dog is destroying it.

zechstoker
01-17-2013, 12:33 PM
It looks like their dog is destroying it.

My boss said the same thing when I showed him the picture. Only problem with that is that they don't have a dog, and no stray dogs can get back there. She has a couple cats, but if her cats are damaging trees like that, then those cats need to be put down 'cause somethin aint right with those felines. Lol

Moose's Mowing
01-17-2013, 09:29 PM
I can't tell if it's cracked from the pic, but I've seen this done in that situation. I'm no tree guy, but I've seen this work a few times. If it's cracked, stake and tie it straight as best as you can. Then drill a few holes through the trunk horizontally and use a few carriage bolts to pull the trunk back together. If all goes well, the tree will heal itself up and grow around the bolts, just like when a wire fence ends up being there so long the wire grows in to the tree. Or when you find a nail in the center of a piece of firewood. I've also seen people use that black goop stuff to "seal" the trees wound. Dunno if that's correct or not though. I hope my un-educated advice can help you in some way. But if you take my advice, and it doesn't work, blame Grandview, not me.

Darryl G
01-17-2013, 09:32 PM
I'd just cut it down too. It doesn't belong there. It's probably leaning because of the fence...trying to get sunlight. It's against the building now and only gonna get bigger...KILL IT!!!!!

Smallaxe
01-18-2013, 10:44 AM
It ain't gonna get bigger at all... in fact, bring it down to half its canopy size... as scapers we're suppose to have solutions to everyone's situation... you don't have to be a "Tree Guy" to determine if this variety can endure severe pruning, then just do it...
Straightening and pruning is no big deal... we deal with snow damage situation every year, that are a lot worse than this... if you kill it,,, you have to have a viable alternative to what your gonna do there... that is a lousy location for anything to grow so take advantage of something that does well in that location...
Not to mention time and expense for the client, for years of possible problems as a result of shade...

Maybe some one was smart enough to put that tree there because in that part of the country its the ONLY thing that wil lgrow in such a LOUSY environment...

If something is tearing at the base, you can stake down chicken wire and mulch it...

Darryl G
01-18-2013, 10:56 AM
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. Nothing will change the fact that it's a poor location for any tree.

Smallaxe
01-18-2013, 11:21 AM
I agree that it is a poor location for anything to grow... but we have something growing, which is better than nothing growing...
It's a little less ugly with a well pruned tree there... IMO... :)

Darryl G
01-18-2013, 11:32 AM
I'm considering air flow too. Maybe it's not as much of a problem for the OPS location, but here in the Northeast you really don't want anything that close to a house (mold/mildew and rot concerns). So my opinion is based partly on it reducing air flow in location that already has limited air flow due to the fence.

Smallaxe
01-18-2013, 12:16 PM
Valid Point... :)

White Gardens
01-18-2013, 12:40 PM
Simply cut the crown down to half its current size and prune the side branches drastically as well... Its only too large if it isn't properly pruned... she has a tree that has outgrown the shade, between the house and the wooden fence... throwing it away becuz you don't feel like pruning is simply a waste...
What would you plant in a shady narrow spot like that , that doesn't need pruning???
We are in the habit of pruning lots of things on a regular basis because we don't have any perfect plants... :)

For once I disagree with you, at least in this situation. ;)

I'd say cut it down.

Trees and shrubs are like children, you can fight all you want to try and shape them into what you want them to be, but in the end you just need to let them grow and become what they really want to be.



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Smallaxe
01-19-2013, 05:42 AM
For once I disagree with you, at least in this situation. ;)

I'd say cut it down.

Trees and shrubs are like children, you can fight all you want to try and shape them into what you want them to be, but in the end you just need to let them grow and become what they really want to be.



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Not a problem... :)

It reminds me of when I first got going in the business, I had this weekly garden job... it was neatly tucked in the edge of a mostly pine forest... to one side of the garden we had this plain ol' native Maple Tree that was just getting started in life and the owner decided he would like that tree to compliment the garden, rather than just another tree in the woods...

So he had me prune it to the picture book[/b] look of the perfect canopy at the perfect height(about 12') and that became part of the annual ritual of putting the garden to bed for the winter... we must have done that for 15 yrs.

It wasn't a fight,,, it was just pruning....

kawasaki guy
01-26-2013, 03:54 PM
i had the same happen. i just cut it down.