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shark1611
01-17-2013, 04:37 PM
Do you guys pay your employees during lunch breaks? Most of the time my guys do not bring a lunch and will leave the property in company truck to get something to eat. If they bring there lunch sometimes they eat on the way to the job. I know by law they need lunch but my background in store management the employees punched out. Look forward to your comments.

jf69
01-17-2013, 04:42 PM
I would pay them, but they dont take a lunch break, I do but they just keep working

shark1611
01-17-2013, 04:53 PM
I would pay them, but they dont take a lunch break, I do but they just keep working

When you count the windshield time, and lunch time, it adds up to a great deal of time on my payroll. I am not trying to be a jerk I am just wanting to do what is right. Thanks...

grandview (2006)
01-17-2013, 05:35 PM
Windshield time is your problem ,your the one who is getting the work for them. Take the break and don't be a slave driver.

shark1611
01-17-2013, 05:40 PM
Windshield time is your problem ,your the one who is getting the work for them. Take the break and don't be a slave driver.

Thank you for your comment. I want to do the right thing and for the last three years I am paying for there lunch breaks, windshield time and christmas, thankgiving, plus bonus when business is doing well. I am finding this is a very hard business to get anyone to help shoot streight with you, or want to help you be a better owner and person.

zechstoker
01-17-2013, 05:43 PM
Lunch time is always time spent off the clock. I believe it is mandatory for all employees to take a minimum of 30 minutes off for lunch after being on the clock for 5 hours. Personally, I take a 45 minute lunch after 3 hours, but I end up doing it that early because I start getting hungry around 10 or 11:00.

grandview (2006)
01-17-2013, 05:44 PM
You don't to have to pay for lunch. As long as you pick a time of day when the truck stops and they break. Just remember it costs less to keep an employee then to find good ones.

OUTLANDER
01-17-2013, 07:49 PM
i dont pay for lunch. How long lunch break is will be deducted at the end of the day as well as unscheduled stops for restroom or drink stops or whatever. I usually take a hour lunch and enjoy it daily...lunch is unpaid but very much needed break so we enjoy it and dont hurry to get back after 30 minutes like most places do basically...(i do sometimes buy lunch though)

shark1611
01-22-2013, 12:52 AM
Good answers and thank you guys a lot. The biggest issue is me because I have a hard time sitting for very long. Always been that way so maybe I need to chill out more.
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seabee24
01-22-2013, 02:28 AM
A related question,

For those that don't send your normal daily time out with a crew

How many have set break times and how many let their guys take breaks when they feel like? I had a situation multiple times with the same crew, I would pull up with them standing around and was told they were taken lunch. Even at 10 am. In not sure how much of that was the truth or not.

Another larger company gives their guys a set time. If the supervisor pulls up and people are standing around the crew leader is written up, and he can't use the excuse he's on break
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xclusive
01-22-2013, 09:11 AM
A related question,

For those that don't send your normal daily time out with a crew

How many have set break times and how many let their guys take breaks when they feel like? I had a situation multiple times with the same crew, I would pull up with them standing around and was told they were taken lunch. Even at 10 am. In not sure how much of that was the truth or not.

Another larger company gives their guys a set time. If the supervisor pulls up and people are standing around the crew leader is written up, and he can't use the excuse he's on break
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My guys take lunch anywhere between 11:30a - 1p. If I pulled up at 10am and was told they were taking lunch I would laugh my a$$ off. That is why GPS tracking is also a good idea. If they are taking more breaks than allowed you are losing money and need to correct the issue.

seabee24
01-22-2013, 01:34 PM
Well this crew normally brings their lunch, and they are a construction crew, so GPS wouldn't help in this case.

It just seemed odd. The crew leader is an older Mexican guy, hard worker, honest guy as much as I can tell. But he is also lacking the drive to "motivate" his crew...aka kicking them in the ass. So it's hard to say if he is taking advantage of me or not.

One idea that we had, we are hoping that our phones will have the ability to punch in/out. Thus if I pull up, see guys standing around, they should be punched out. If not there's a problem

shark1611
01-26-2013, 12:01 AM
Well this crew normally brings their lunch, and they are a construction crew, so GPS wouldn't help in this case.

It just seemed odd. The crew leader is an older Mexican guy, hard worker, honest guy as much as I can tell. But he is also lacking the drive to "motivate" his crew...aka kicking them in the ass. So it's hard to say if he is taking advantage of me or not.

One idea that we had, we are hoping that our phones will have the ability to punch in/out. Thus if I pull up, see guys standing around, they should be punched out. If not there's a problem

Now I like that idea. Do not want to be a micro, but I have found that if I am not with them the jobs do not seem to be taken care of as fast. When I see three or more trash items from different stores I know they have had just that many stops. All this has been a great help. I know it all comes down to managment and having the right people, but sometimes I do feel we are not being efficient as we could. Some of the cell phone use drives me nuts as well.

corey4671
01-26-2013, 12:48 AM
Well this crew normally brings their lunch, and they are a construction crew, so GPS wouldn't help in this case.

It just seemed odd. The crew leader is an older Mexican guy, hard worker, honest guy as much as I can tell. But he is also lacking the drive to "motivate" his crew...aka kicking them in the ass. So it's hard to say if he is taking advantage of me or not.

One idea that we had, we are hoping that our phones will have the ability to punch in/out. Thus if I pull up, see guys standing around, they should be punched out. If not there's a problem

hmmm...could you have an email address...like a yahoo account that each employee could text an email to from their phone saying clock in, out lunch, in lunch, clock out. Could that not work as a sort of time card? Just thinking out loud off the cuff here.

seabee24
01-26-2013, 02:41 AM
hmmm...could you have an email address...like a yahoo account that each employee could text an email to from their phone saying clock in, out lunch, in lunch, clock out. Could that not work as a sort of time card? Just thinking out loud off the cuff here.

That's not a bad idea actually. I could even think of some easy administrative things that could be solved with that

Five Points
01-26-2013, 06:40 PM
My first yrs we just ate on the road between sites, never stopped. Now the route is soo much tighter we usually stop for a quick break between jobs.I find when you are hitting many places in a day you don't need to break for very long.

When its hotter we break more often. Ill buy cold drinks sometimes. I buy coffee alot. And I buy breakfast once a week.Friday or sat mornings. In the spring we work long days so I often buy a pizza slice and pop for supper.

I always pay the guys from the time they get there in the morning till we back at night.

Now in the summer we sometimes land a landscape job of some sort that may take a day or two. Those days we seem to take two breaks and a half hr lunch. I guess thats because we know we are working a set amount of hours. With mowing we dont go home till the list is done. If its done too early I will start the next days list.:laugh:

scott martoccia
01-28-2013, 08:05 AM
We allow a 30min lunch break for each crew. It is not important to me when they take their break. It will depend on what makes the most sense. For example if they are working at a group of properties and will not finish until 1:30 then they wait till then. Each property is job tracked on their daily work order so I can see plain as day what is going on, when and how long lunch break is taken.