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wiltslawncare
01-24-2013, 11:19 PM
I have a question for you guys that have been mowing for longer then me. I will be purchasing a new mower in march and I am not sure what would be my best bet as far as a zeroturn mower. I currently have a toro timecutter 5030 50 inch. Its a residential mower that I have been using for the last four years to cut 15 lawns a week. I am very impressed that it has held up the way it has over the years. All I have done to it was regular maint! Anyways, what are your suggestions. I have a 5x10 trailer so I need it to be a 54 inch mower and under.

I should add that lawn care is currently my part time job, I have a regular 44hour a week job. My goal is to go full time into lawn care within the next two years.

Jaybrown
01-24-2013, 11:24 PM
I commercial zero turn is roughly 7 feet long. Maybe look at a grandstand or a walker

hi_speedreed
01-24-2013, 11:34 PM
I commercial zero turn is roughly 7 feet long. Maybe look at a grandstand or a walker

He has 10' of trailer so he will be just fine. He can still fit a trim mower, trimmers on racks, blower on rack, and gas cans right behind the trim mower.


6500 isn't even half way to a walker based on the prices guys post on here.

Nate'sLawnCare
01-24-2013, 11:35 PM
Snapper Pro S75X is a good mower for the money and is fairly compact. I believe you could get a good deal on one right now and they have the "no payment till 6/1/13" if you buy it as a commercial operator.

http://www.snapperpro.com/models/features/4:s75x

Here's mine on my 10 foot rig:

http://www.lawnsite.com/showpost.php?p=4644184&postcount=17

knox gsl
01-24-2013, 11:37 PM
I agree snapper makes a good machine for the money, also check out Bobcat if there is a dealer in your area.

LandFakers
01-24-2013, 11:41 PM
Maybe a 52" Turf Tracer and a sulky? Cheaper and still very productive

wiltslawncare
01-24-2013, 11:46 PM
sounds good guys. Thanks for the replys. I will check them out!

wiltslawncare
01-24-2013, 11:48 PM
One quick question. Would it be worth it to buy a bigger trailer so I could get a 60 inch deck? Would a 60 inch deck really save me that much more time?

Nate'sLawnCare
01-24-2013, 11:52 PM
Unless you're cutting larger properties (over an acre) a 48 or 52 would be more versatile. Remember, the larger the deck, the more problems you have with scalping.

hi_speedreed
01-25-2013, 12:02 AM
One quick question. Would it be worth it to buy a bigger trailer so I could get a 60 inch deck? Would a 60 inch deck really save me that much more time?

A 60 in place of a 54 would end up saving you about 5 minutes for every hour of cutting you do at 80% efficiency.

knox gsl
01-25-2013, 12:09 AM
One quick question. Would it be worth it to buy a bigger trailer so I could get a 60 inch deck? Would a 60 inch deck really save me that much more time?

I will tell you about my experience. I had a new 60" Exmark Next laser Z when they came out in 2009, I also had a 52" Turf Tracer at the same time. I still have the TT and the laser is long gone. I found the TT to be faster on medium and small residentials.

Greyst1
01-25-2013, 12:23 AM
Snapper Pro, Bobcat or maybe even a Bad Boy (Deck is unproven to me yet). I hope no one will say a used Exmark because the eye in the sky will closed down another thread....

I think Snapper Pro owns this price point, the ICD deck IMO is the best all around deck out there right now. Not starting a brand war here (we all know the sponsors of this site won't allow the truth to be told) but i believe it cuts just as good if not better than Scag, Deere, Husky.

I think you can get a new Snapper Pro fro around 7500 which i think is a steal compared to whats out there.

Good luck, let us know what u get.

Greyst1
01-25-2013, 12:27 AM
One quick question. Would it be worth it to buy a bigger trailer so I could get a 60 inch deck? Would a 60 inch deck really save me that much more time?

Yes, but you don't have to have a 60" to really take advantage of a Z's abilities.

If your running right, a 52"/54" will keep up with a 60 all day long, maybe a pass behind at max. Plus your machine is lighter, more nimble which i think allow you to cover a greater swath of properties. No doubt i'm glad i have a 61" Ferris for my larger properties but sometimes i wish i had a 52" for it's agility factor. Either way a larger trailer is always helpful.

herler
01-25-2013, 12:35 AM
There appears to be a malfunction on your keypad when you pushed the 9 a 6 came out so it said you were looking for a Zero turn riding mower for $6,500 but since such a thing does not exist it is fairly obvious you meant to type $9,500, now for that kind of money we can talk, otherwise I'd get off the horse and start looking at a pony or a donkey, maybe a mule, maybe.

Now, a used Ztr, that might not be such a bad idea.

Spring Valley Lawn Service
01-25-2013, 12:45 AM
Look for a demoe unit. I got a z400 toro 48 inch cut 21 hp Kawasaki for 5500. Also might be time of year to find a left over from last year.

MOturkey
01-25-2013, 12:49 AM
You might consider going full commercial and financing a portion of the cost. Right now, you can buy many commercial mowers on a 48 month, no interest deal. I'm not advocating taking 4 years to pay for one, but rather than limit yourself to a maximum of $6,500, you could take advantage of low or zero interest and purchase a mower that will last you for years. The time you will likely save by going with a 52 inch full-commercial unit would likely allow you to add at least a couple of yards a week, making it relatively easy to pay off the difference.

By the way, if you have a dealer in your area, you might want to check out Gravely's.

wiltslawncare
01-25-2013, 12:49 AM
@ herler. uuuh no. I dont need to spend 9,000 for what I am doing with my mower. I have used a 3,000 toro mower for the last 4 years cutting 15 lawns weekly no problems. Takes a day and a half

hi_speedreed
01-25-2013, 12:52 AM
There appears to be a malfunction on your keypad when you pushed the 9 a 6 came out so it said you were looking for a Zero turn riding mower for $6,500 but since such a thing does not exist it is fairly obvious you meant to type $9,500, now for that kind of money we can talk, otherwise I'd get off the horse and start looking at a pony or a donkey, maybe a mule, maybe.

Now, a used Ztr, that might not be such a bad idea.

All new, all from dealers just posting mowers on ebay, all well under $9500

Ebay is one of the few places you can find dealer pricing and it was fast to do this search.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-BOB-CAT-PROCAT-52-ZERO-TURN-COMMERCIAL-MOWER-/330840220998?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27%26meid%3D5116147224522970209%26pid%3 D100033%26prg%3D1011%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D330840220998%26

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2012-HUSQVARNA-P-ZT5224-COMMERCIAL-ZERO-TURN-MOWER-BRAND-NEW-/150847352333?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item231f33ee0d

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2012-Cub-Cadet-Commercial-Tank-LZ54-NEW-/121037450895?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c2e64ee8f

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-2012-CUB-CADET-COMMERCIAL-LZ-54-ZERO-TURN-MOWER-25HP-KOHLER-/261052181020?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cc7ec2a1c

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Snapper-Pro-S150x-52-28hp-Commercial-Zero-Turn-Mower-/200882877936?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ec58d75f0

knox gsl
01-25-2013, 12:53 AM
If paying cash I would look at the market place on here and CL, there are lots of good deals out there.

wiltslawncare
01-25-2013, 01:21 AM
yeah I should have said so in my original post. I will be paying cash. That bobcat looks like a very nice machine. Does anyone own one? Will it lay down nice strips like my toro??

Greyst1
01-25-2013, 01:23 AM
yeah I should have said so in my original post. I will be paying cash. That bobcat looks like a very nice machine. Does anyone own one? Will it lay down nice strips like my toro??

Much better, your toro doesn't have the blade tip speed like the commercial mowers.

smitty's lawncare
01-25-2013, 11:32 AM
i would go with a 52'' scag walk behind hydro with a velky x2. i love mine, very durable and easy to service. perfect looking cut every time

ztman
01-25-2013, 11:41 AM
One quick question. Would it be worth it to buy a bigger trailer so I could get a 60 inch deck? Would a 60 inch deck really save me that much more time?

Good point, your needs may change, so when you are shopping, you may want to consider whether the mower you are looking at lets you go up in deck size, if you want to swap it in the future.

STIHL GUY
01-25-2013, 07:08 PM
One quick question. Would it be worth it to buy a bigger trailer so I could get a 60 inch deck? Would a 60 inch deck really save me that much more time?

a 60 inch deck will save time.. also if you have a resedential zturn now and get a full blown commercial 60'' it will move a lot faster as well as the bigger deck so if you can pick up enough accounts it will pay for itself...dont be scared to look around for a used zturn or a trade in from the dealer

JClark86
01-25-2013, 08:55 PM
Look at the 2013 Husqvarna MZT (not the MZ).

wiltslawncare
01-25-2013, 09:21 PM
I guess I have some studying to do. :hammerhead:So far the mowers that look like a good deal to me would be snapper pro, bobcat,gravely, and maybe husqvarna.

Most guys in my area run exmark. I feel like they are a little pricey for what they are. Every now and then I will see hustler and scag. I think I have seen john deere once.

sweetwaterlandscaping
01-25-2013, 09:43 PM
I bought a ferris IS 700 commercial with a 52 inch ICD deck, 24 Kawasaki, and it has suspension. Out the door for $6300. It should work good for what you are wanting.

Greyst1
01-25-2013, 10:10 PM
I'm a huge Ferris guy and not to derail this thread but tell me about this 700 series machine. Just checked their site and it looks like the replacement for the 1500. Interested to know about this machine.

sweetwaterlandscaping
01-25-2013, 11:43 PM
It took the place of the 1500. They are promoting the ferris to get more of them on the market. I am glad I got mine. You want to know more just ask.

beano
01-27-2013, 10:33 PM
Ferris and Snapper Pro are both great mowers and in that price range.

CreativeLawncareSolutions
01-28-2013, 08:04 AM
If you really applied yourself you could find a good used (less than 500 hours) 52 and a 36 for that money. Heck, you could find those 2 mowers for probably $4500.

I'd try and find a 48-52 Wright stander and 36 Exmark walk behind.

Quick search...took 2 seconds

http://dayton.craigslist.org/bfs/3564825422.html

I'd offer the guy $3500

wiltslawncare
02-01-2013, 03:37 PM
So I have called around today and after being totally turned off by the bobcat dealer on the phone and no snapper dealer nearby have decieded either a 52inch Exmark Pioneer Series (2013 model kholer $7299) or 52 inch toro 3000 (leftover 2012 Kawasaki motor $7790). What do you guys think about these two mowers? Which would you go for?? Does anyone have either of these mowers that can tell me about them? Thanks!!!

CreativeLawncareSolutions
02-01-2013, 03:40 PM
Why on earth would you not go used? There are so many great deals to be had out there right now. Every winter guys get desperate for money and are willing to give these things away. Pounce on them!

wiltslawncare
02-01-2013, 03:43 PM
I really just dont have time to fix anything. I want something I can just have fore the next three or fours years and just do regular pm on.

CreativeLawncareSolutions
02-01-2013, 03:56 PM
I really just dont have time to fix anything. I want something I can just have fore the next three or fours years and just do regular pm on.

What fix? These things are tanks. You change the oil and filters and you're good to go. Seriously. I'd hate for you to pay out the teeth for a new one when you can get the exact same machine with a few hundred hours on it for half the price.

hi_speedreed
02-01-2013, 04:55 PM
Why on earth would you not go used? There are so many great deals to be had out there right now. Every winter guys get desperate for money and are willing to give these things away. Pounce on them!

Some people don't like used. I want to know the equipment was well taken care of. If I am the only person who has ever ran it, I know it was never abused or misused, ran low on oil, I know the filter was changed. I buy new knowing it will last me much longer than the feel of a sweet deal.

He is exactly right in thinking he does not have the time or money for repairs. What happens when he gets a great deal on a turd? Not only is he out the money he spent but he has no recourse. He either cuts his losses and buys another machine or he pays for costly repairs not knowing when the next breakdown will occur. Buying used from a private party is buying as is. They are going to make look and sound as though you are buying a new machine for half the cost. Too many shysters for me to take that chance.

chesterlawn
02-02-2013, 05:33 PM
Why on earth would you not go used? There are so many great deals to be had out there right now. Every winter guys get desperate for money and are willing to give these things away. Pounce on them!

I'm with you, for the money he has to spend he can quality full size mower instead of cheaper less rugged new model. One year from now they will both be used........... But one has to do what he is most comfortable with.

123hotdog
02-03-2013, 06:39 AM
You will here a ton of suggestion. Everybody likes their brand of mower. CONSIDER THIS!!!!!!!!!!! I went to the expo in Louisville KY in the fall and tested every mower there. I wanted a 60" Wright Stander so so bad. I currently have a Great Dane 61" stander I've had for years. However, I am familiar with the local shop in my area that is the authorized Wright dealer. They put signs on their counter saying how many weeks ( usually 2 to 4 ) the repair shop is backed up. Could you imagine paying $6500 for a mower and having to wait that long for warranty work? My point is check around and see what kind of service you are gonna get when it comes time for parts and repairs.:clapping:

GMLC
02-03-2013, 08:00 AM
Check out Gravely's new entry level Pro-Turn. A real commercial mower in your price range.
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ryan5943
02-19-2013, 02:50 AM
I just picked up a new 36" Scag V Ride for $5600 and was quoted $6600 for a 52" with the current fleet pricing promo.

ch4x0r
02-19-2013, 03:39 AM
So I have called around today and after being totally turned off by the bobcat dealer on the phone and no snapper dealer nearby have decieded either a 52inch Exmark Pioneer Series (2013 model kholer $7299) or 52 inch toro 3000 (leftover 2012 Kawasaki motor $7790). What do you guys think about these two mowers? Which would you go for?? Does anyone have either of these mowers that can tell me about them? Thanks!!! Like you i wanted new also so i bought the 52 inch toro 2000 series with a 23hp kawasaki, and i love it 4 year 500 hour warranty also.

KnK
02-19-2013, 09:18 AM
If the toro has served you well, why dont you hold out for 2 more seasons,then buy the commercial unit when you go full time, most commercial units have 3 year warranties, first 2 parts and labor , 3rd just parts, doest sound like you will put enough hours on the new commercial to justify spending money on the new, if set on a new one now , i would think about a demo commercial with 100 hrs give or take , to save some money, the savings will pay for a good bit of that new trailer , just an idea

dmar62
02-19-2013, 02:38 PM
You can go with the Hustler Fastrak super duty 54'' for around $6500. It comes with a kawaski. Great mower.

Leeg83
02-19-2013, 06:05 PM
I had just bought a JD 710a for 6600 plus tax. left over from last year. shop around a bit

wiltslawncare
03-01-2013, 02:26 PM
ended up with a zmaster 3000 series with a 22hp kaw 52 inch. out the door $7554.00 left over from last year. Spent a little more but I think it will pay off. Thank you all for your help! Ill post pics once i figure out how.

wiltslawncare
03-01-2013, 06:09 PM
picked up today :cool2:

ch4x0r
03-02-2013, 12:37 PM
Looks great man almost exactly what i got i got the 2000 series and love it so far but haven't got to really test it out real good yet.

pugs
03-02-2013, 02:53 PM
I'm a huge Ferris guy and not to derail this thread but tell me about this 700 series machine. Just checked their site and it looks like the replacement for the 1500. Interested to know about this machine.

They simplified things a bit. The 500 used to be the more homeowner oriented machine. Briggs engines, smaller tires, non folding rops, the frame was kind narrower. The 1500 was more commercial with Kawasaki or Vanguard engines, larger tires, folding rops. Both units were available with similar deck options.

Now the 600 and 700 are basically the same frame wise. However, the 600 has small decks, while the 700 has large decks. And now the cheaper briggs engines and Kawasaki are options on all of the machines. The big change is the move to ZT3400 transaxles.

tdadkins00
03-09-2014, 07:18 AM
I've got the same mower toro 3000 cuts good in dry, clumps like a mo-fo in thick wet, or just wet grass. Scag or gravely if I had to do it over again