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Prestige Landscaping
01-26-2013, 01:44 PM
We are about to purchase new equipment? What manufacture do you think is the best? We have been running exmark but have thought about switching.... Also we run echo handhelds what do you think about these?

ryanc
04-25-2013, 10:54 AM
personally I love Scag I have two walkbehinds a 36 & 48. No problems what so ever and they're built like a tank. I'm not sure about echo since I use sthil. If you are still considering Exmark I would also look at toro since toro wons Exmark and they're the exact same machine.

southgagrass
04-25-2013, 10:01 PM
I have ran exmark for last couple of years and just bought a new Scag last week TT 72 w/ 35 vanguard. The Scag will cut circles around the exmark. Exmark is xseries 60" but just doesn't cut like the Scag.

ashgrove landscaping
04-25-2013, 11:31 PM
Go all orange... Scag and husqvarna handhelds

ryno23
04-26-2013, 01:08 AM
Go all orange... Scag and husqvarna handhelds

I second this!!
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Valk
04-26-2013, 01:21 AM
If you are still considering Exmark I would also look at toro since toro wons Exmark and they're the exact same machine.
Toro may own ExMark, but they are independent of each other for the most part. Their Z and WB and stander mower decks are different from each other...as are many other features/controls.
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dathorpe
04-26-2013, 05:29 PM
I have ran exmark for last couple of years and just bought a new Scag last week TT 72 w/ 35 vanguard. The Scag will cut circles around the exmark. Exmark is xseries 60" but just doesn't cut like the Scag.

It's true. For years I ran Exmark Lazers and Toro Z Masters but this year I bought some Scag Turf Tigers. It's early in the season and I can already see I made the right choice. The Scag Turf Tiger is a better machine.

Somewhere down the road, later in the year, I thought I might do a detailed comparison between the machines and post it on here. The pros and cons of Exmark, Toro, and Scag riders.

CuttingEdgeLawnGuys
04-26-2013, 09:56 PM
Go all orange... Scag and husqvarna handhelds

I third that! :laugh:

Blade Runners
04-26-2013, 10:18 PM
I third that! :laugh:

I 4th and 5th it :) Run a V-Ride and 36 WB and added a TT this season. Couldn't be happier.

ryanc
04-26-2013, 10:27 PM
I love my scag walkbehinds never let me down. Money well spent. Made in the good old USA

ddixon7
04-27-2013, 01:22 AM
If I had a Scag dealer close and they made 60" walkbehinds and walkbehinds I thought were equal to Exmark, I would switch. I absolutely can't stand my Exmark dealer. I love Exmark most of the year, but they actually cut the grass too good and when the grass is juicy this time of year, it will always clump even if you mow high and have a clean deck. There are just so many hangups in the deck. Otherwise, Exmark is great. In normal conditions, they throw the grass a mile. And that is the reason they clump. They are so channeled off in the deck to have suction power and throwing power, everything sticks and clumps together when the grass is juicy in the spring.

GMLC
04-27-2013, 11:41 AM
Its hard to beat Exmark's cut in dry ideal conditions. BUT as mentioned, in less than ideal or wet conditions expect clumping and double cutting. Both a huge negative in my book and a waste of time and money.

If you want a great cut in almost all conditions consider Scag, JD and Gravely.
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dathorpe
04-27-2013, 09:17 PM
Its hard to beat Exmark's cut in dry ideal conditions. BUT as mentioned, in less than ideal or wet conditions expect clumping and double cutting. Both a huge negative in my book and a waste of time and money.

If you want a great cut in almost all conditions consider Scag, JD and Gravely.
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I think that statement about the great Exmark cut may have held true 10 years ago but today there is nothing superior about the Exmark cut in my opinion. It's a myth. Scags lay down some beautiful stripes in any situation and they do it without the Exmark baggage. And this is coming from a former Exmark / Toro guy.

knox gsl
04-27-2013, 09:33 PM
I think that statement about the great Exmark cut may have held true 10 years ago but today there is nothing superior about the Exmark cut in my opinion. It's a myth. Scags lay down some beautiful stripes in any situation and they do it without the Exmark baggage. And this is coming from a former Exmark / Toro guy.

I used to think this as well but now that I have a Scag the only thing the Exmark does better is cut the clippings up finer. The Scag just throws out whole stems of grass, but will mow full stick (wide open) in thick wet Spring growth, not a chance on my Exmarks.

RSK Property Maintenance
04-27-2013, 10:46 PM
i started with a scag walkbehind in 2004 and sold that for tiger cub in 2005 and just sold that in june of 2012 for a scag cheetah, and i demoed an exmark 60" lazer z, some things i liked, so i didn't but cut nice, but the exmark feels bulky, as to the cheetah which is quick, responsive and nimble even though its a bigger machine. plus i'm 6'2 so i like the longer operators area of the scags. but the exmark cut nice on the dry day i demoed one. but im sticking with scag for life. i might demo an exmark walk behind and see how that does.

cmills
04-27-2013, 11:54 PM
We have a 1 of each, both diesels, the Scag has been much more reliable, much easier to service, cuts better when wet and to me is more comfortable. Although, I do like having a reserve on the fuel tank on the Exmark, I've been caught on the Scag a few times saying "I think I have enough".

mowcrazy
04-28-2013, 08:50 AM
Scag for sure. I came from years of running exmark WB's and Z's. Still have exmark 48's for ditching and steep hills but if scag would get off there rear ends and create a wb with good controls WITH THE VELOCITY DECK (not that thing they are about to bring out), I would have all orange mowers.

I cant say enough about the scag velocity deck. By far and away more superior to the exmark decks. We have been getting a lot of rain lately and even though some think its dumb we cut in the rain if its not to bad and they cut fine if its weekly cuts. Not ideal but while most are sitting around waiting on the rain im making money. We only do this when rain absolutely makes us. We have 5 full days of mowing so sometimes we do what we have to do and if it weren't for scag we could NEVER DO IT. My old exmarks would clump when it wasn't wet, let alone in light rain...........

Orange all the way, and for what its worth we have owned every model of the scag line. Turf tiger, cheetah (just sold with 19 hours on it because we didn't like it), v-ride (got rid of it to, just not for me), and OUR FAVORITE the tiger cats. I simply cannot give the tiger cats enough credit. They are simple as simple gets. they have plenty of power with 27 Koehler, have suspension seat, and the tried and true velocity deck....... Im all about simple and productive and the tiger cats are just that. Not to mention you can get new ones for around 8500 bucks.................. The deck is slightly out in front of you so easy to see trim side going around obstacles (unlike on the cheetah where deck is more tucked under the mower)....... I know that these mowers aren't the fastest things on the planet at 8mph but to get a superior cut we hardly ever run the sticks wide open. That was another problem with the cheetah. even in the low range, wide open on sticks still didn't cut well. The cheetah suspension platform is by far and way the most kick but suspension setup out there though so im not completely knocking it. I bought the cheetah and stuck it in the garage with our 5 other tiger cats. I noticed when my guys loaded up the mowers in the morning they still took the cats instead of the brand new cheetah. out of 5 of us we all agreed that unless a person has a LOT OF LARGE contracts, it just wasn't as good FOR US as the cats. Just out .02

LifeBack Lawns
05-30-2013, 08:04 PM
I only have a Tiger cat (Scag) for ZTR, but I would definitely choose the Scag! Next mower is a Turf Tiger ;)

caseysmowing
05-31-2013, 05:05 AM
I think you have your answer. If you don't yet here is one more for scag.
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puppypaws
05-31-2013, 01:37 PM
I have ran exmark for last couple of years and just bought a new Scag last week TT 72 w/ 35 vanguard. The Scag will cut circles around the exmark. Exmark is xseries 60" but just doesn't cut like the Scag.

You've got one of the ultimate cutting machines. The only mower that will cut more grass per hour is a 35 hp, 72" Hustler HyperDrive Super Z. The only reason the Hustler is more productive is due to its faster cutting speed, the ride on the Hustler is also much better, allowing the extra speed to be utilized. Take my word, if you think the Scag cuts circles around the Exmark, pull into a large area with a HyperDrive Super Z and you will see it cut circles around the TT.

mtmower
06-01-2013, 01:01 AM
Don't want to high jack the thread but can anyone give feedback on clipping size and discharge quality of a Velocity compared to a Hustler VX4? Battling clippings from my Hustlers and considering a Scag.

GMLC
06-04-2013, 08:59 AM
Don't want to high jack the thread but can anyone give feedback on clipping size and discharge quality of a Velocity compared to a Hustler VX4? Battling clippings from my Hustlers and considering a Scag.

As you know I ran Scags for about 15 years and am a huge Velocity fan. After seeing the VX4 cut in person(you saw the pics) I can safely say the two decks have nothing in common. I couldnt make a Velocity clump like the VX4 if I wanted it too. You will get some carpeting with the Velocity in tall grass but no clumping.
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LifeBack Lawns
06-04-2013, 07:35 PM
As you know I ran Scags for about 15 years and am a huge Velocity fan. After seeing the VX4 cut in person(you saw the pics) I can safely say the two decks have nothing in common. I couldnt make a Velocity clump like the VX4 if I wanted it too. You will get some carpeting with the Velocity in tall grass but no clumping.
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When you say carpeting gmlc, do you mean the clippings that hang out up top like dirt usually stays above on a plush carpet?
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GMLC
06-04-2013, 07:47 PM
When you say carpeting gmlc, do you mean the clippings that hang out up top like dirt usually stays above on a plush carpet?
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Exactly. The velocity produces longer clippings so when cutting longer grass you may get the cliipings on top. But the big advantage of this is the ability to cut some seriously wet grass without clumping. The velocity discharge is second to none.
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