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Olympus
01-28-2013, 06:39 PM
I need some advice on buying a new mower. I have about 4 acres of yard to mow. I currently use a JD 750 tractor with a 60" finish mower. My tractor is in mint condition and extremely low hours for its age. I hate to put a ton of hours on it. And it mows great for flat areas, but sucks for trim work and uneven ground. I had a very small Dixon that I used for trim work, but it bit the dust last summer. I want to replace it with a decent Grasshopper that is big enough to mow the whole yard and will be faster than my tractor.

I found what looks like a very nice used 1997 model 725 with 1775 hours. Seller says its a one owner and never used commercially. Says its always been garaged and it does look very clean. No rust at all. Seat looks brand new. Seller says it burns no oil and that he changes the oil every 90hrs. Says it has a new alternator, water pump, belts, and hoses put on last year. Tires look about half worn.

The seller wants $3500, but I have no idea if that's a decent price or if there are some concerns with this model. Any help and advice would be appreciated.

retrodog
01-29-2013, 12:35 AM
I hate tharmt its so old. At some point i believe they nickle and dime you to death. I would look at the new redesigned grasshopper 126 2013 model. Get 0% for 48 months payment be around $130 to 135 a month and save yourself from getting someone elses headache. Machine is upper 5k range for brand new with 4 year warranty not to mention the many deck changes, transmission, motors, pulleys, etc. Working on 20 years old is antiqued in my book even if it does look nice and was taken care of...20 years of improvements, and still have to pay $3500?
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retrodog
01-29-2013, 12:42 AM
$1500 max man, but dont end up like my neighbor wishing he had one of these shiny new ones i am always mowing my yard with. He has to work on his almost every time he gets ready to mow, good for parts biz though...
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Olympus
01-29-2013, 10:53 AM
That's a bummer to hear. Buying brand new is out of the question for me. We don't do loans or financing and pay cash for everything. We have $4000 set aside for a mower.

I had just heard and read that the 3 cylinder Kubota engines were considered one of the best and many people call them bullet proof. Everything I've read says that 4000 hours is common on those motors. The seller says that the dealership offered him $3500 trade in value on a new model.

retrodog
01-29-2013, 11:23 AM
Yeah, thats because on a new model they get his for free, and whatever they can sell it for is pure profit. Yeah they are good, but then you have a $1500 transmission thats a possibility to go out etc. Dude if it tells you anything, i sold a 2006 722d 22hp kubota diesel grasshopper used with 1500 hours last year for $4200 on ebay and a guy from chicago drove down to get it. I just think you can Find a newer machine for same money, 1997 mower i dont care how nice and expensive it was there have been nearly 2.. decades of changes and improvements. I have a guy that trades every 2 years trading in 4 this year. They will be the 430d and new 725d models all 2010 with around 1500 hours. I will sell between 5000 and 6500. They are used daily but he takes good care of them and maintenance schedule is good... diesels are rated around 6000 hours mowers usually rot before the motor goes bad... in your case i am worried about other things, not to mention if there is injecter failure or something how much it will cost you... i would save up a hair more or shop around a little better...
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Olympus
01-29-2013, 11:47 AM
Thanks for the advice.

retrodog
01-29-2013, 12:07 PM
Hey there is a 928 on ebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/GRASSHOPPER-928DIESEL-72INCH-KUBOTA-ZEROTURN-LOW355HOURS-LAWN-MOWER-CLEAN-/181067710057?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a2879fe69
Goes off in 6 hours right now it is $3900 and no reserve. Its in Michigan though, but it only has 328 hours and they didn't say the year model, but I would guess a 2008 or so by the way it looks in the in pics...

retrodog
01-29-2013, 12:13 PM
Oh, and if you'll give me the serial and model of the mower your looking at, they didn't make a 725 diesel in 1997, the 725 is a Kubota Gas engine. The diesel of that year was a 721D. It is deceptive because the gas motor looks just like the Diesel.

Olympus
01-29-2013, 12:47 PM
Hey there is a 928 on ebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/GRASSHOPPER-928DIESEL-72INCH-KUBOTA-ZEROTURN-LOW355HOURS-LAWN-MOWER-CLEAN-/181067710057?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a2879fe69
Goes off in 6 hours right now it is $3900 and no reserve. Its in Michigan though, but it only has 328 hours and they didn't say the year model, but I would guess a 2008 or so by the way it looks in the in pics...

Yes, I did see that one already. I have it on my watch list. I suspect it will jump in price as the auction ends. That's one of those too good to be true deals. I also noticed the seller has no feedback score. Not a good sign to me.

Olympus
01-29-2013, 12:50 PM
Oh, and if you'll give me the serial and model of the mower your looking at, they didn't make a 725 diesel in 1997, the 725 is a Kubota Gas engine. The diesel of that year was a 721D. It is deceptive because the gas motor looks just like the Diesel.

I don't have the serial. Would it help or something?

I know it is the gas model. That part was disclosed. I've read online that the Kubota gas engine is still very highly regarded.

retrodog
01-29-2013, 03:22 PM
Oh ok, yeah the gas is good, same engine as the diesel just the gas difference. Fuel consumption is surprisingly really close too. Its just that on one hand I would prolly rather have a $1000 2013 Briggs Professional motor than even a 97 Kubota diesel I guess is a good way of putting it. Much cheaper to fix and prolly better chance of less breakdowns. I see alot of good new redesigned mowers out there for the $4000. Some even semi commercial at that price too. Can you tell Im bored this time of year...lol?

Olympus
01-29-2013, 11:55 PM
That's understandable. I just have to stay within my $4000 budget and I'd like to get the most for my money.

My 4 acres are almost all hilly. My back yard is small and slopes downhill. My front yard is large and also has a stepped slope downhill. My yard is also very rough. I'm afraid a lighter duty ZTR is going to wear out on me quickly.