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LandFakers
01-29-2013, 08:30 PM
I have been looking into a sulky for my deere walk behind. I have looked at many and really like the idea of swivel wheeled models due to you are always behind the machine and no extra wheel marks usually and etc. I have been looking at this
http://www.havenerent.com/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&view=productdetails&virtuemart_product_id=685&virtuemart_category_id=9&Itemid=96

Its a little pricey but anything to save my legs a specially on this one property where I alone have to mow an acre while my worker(son) mows two acres with the ZTR. I try to use the ZTR and if I actually liked to use it you know I would be sitting, but it kills my back after only 20 minutes or so. So please present any suggestions you have for Sulkies.
I know that I will have to retro fit a mount for it as my Deere has the fluid in the frame. All except the pro slide would have to be modified so no big deal. I don't like the idea of the single wheeled ones, and I do K turns with my mower so I need to be able to back up and such.

Thanks again guys

larryinalabama
01-29-2013, 08:39 PM
Is your mower duel hydro?

LandFakers
01-29-2013, 08:44 PM
Is your mower duel hydro?
Couldn't tell ya. I believe it is but it's in one hydro unit. It's the highest model Deere WB so I hope so.
Are you asking because of my K turns? It's not the mower it's me

NIXRAY
01-29-2013, 08:46 PM
your mower NEEDS to be HYDRO, unless you weigh in at or below 100lbs...Stay away from Proslides.
And one wheel units as the one wheels will, WILL find any hole, divot etc. I've used just about every single sulkie (expect for the old school "seat" ones) The ones with the swivel wheels watch as you turn, your radius will go from 0* to about (est.) 6*, these models are great for backing as they follow the mower. The fixed wheel "trailer" type is great for turns, but you NEED to know how to back a trailer if you went this route.

Thats all I have for now, It seems I just wrote a novel. IT NEEDS TO SNOW

LandFakers
01-29-2013, 08:49 PM
your mower NEEDS to be HYDRO, unless you weigh in at or below 100lbs...Stay away from Proslides.
And one wheel units as the one wheels will, WILL find any hole, divot etc. I've used just about every single sulkie (expect for the old school "seat" ones) The ones with the swivel wheels watch as you turn, your radius will go from 0* to about (est.) 6*, these models are great for backing as they follow the mower. The fixed wheel "trailer" type is great for turns, but you NEED to know how to back a trailer if you went this route.

Thats all I have for now, It seems I just wrote a novel. IT NEEDS TO SNOW
Your right we need some snow!!! And it is a hydro unit, it's the 7H19, the highest made by Deere sp I'm hoping it's dual hydro. It's not like an exmark with two separate hydro units, I believe it two hydros in one single casing. Not sure though

LandFakers
01-30-2013, 07:26 AM
Anybody else??

LandFakers
01-30-2013, 02:00 PM
Nobody has anything to say?

OUTLANDER
01-30-2013, 02:07 PM
look up pro one....it is by far the best there is:waving:

Darryl G
01-30-2013, 02:13 PM
Dual hydro just means you have independent control of each wheel, rather than a hydro transmissions that runs both with no control over each one individually. If you can turn the mower just using the controls it's a dual hydro.

I've been running a swivel (castering) sulky for 10+ years and really like it better than the trailering type ones. It is nice that the controls stay in front of you at all times and that you don't have to worrry about it jack-knifing on you when you go backwards. You can get 2 wheel trailering sulkies by the way that will stay in the same wheel tracks.

The downsides to the castering-type sulkies is that it can be difficult to keep them straight on undulating terrain and when traversing slopes...the weight of the operator influences the machine more than a trailering one does. Also you have to be careful when going from forward to backward and vice-versa if the wheels aren't kicked to the side at all...caster wheels have a hard time deciding what to do in those situations and can gouge the turf. What I do is turn just a little to get them spinning around or give a little hop to get my weight off of it for a second. It's really just straight forward and backwards that creates a problem, not that you couldn't gouge with them in soft turf in other conditions....usually not a problem though. They also swing wider than trailering type ones, and can whip you right off it if you spin around too fast. I can actually operate mine in either trailering or castering mode, but it's always in caster mode. Overall I think it's the way to go with a dual hydro mower, but some people hate them, I think mostly because they are harder to keep straight.

LandFakers
01-30-2013, 02:23 PM
Dual hydro just means you have independent control of each wheel, rather than a hydro transmissions that runs both with no control over each one individually. If you can turn the mower just using the controls it's a dual hydro.

I've been running a swivel (castering) sulky for 10+ years and really like it better than the trailering type ones. It is nice that the controls stay in front of you at all times and that you don't have to worrry about it jack-knifing on you when you go backwards. You can get 2 wheel trailering sulkies by the way that will stay in the same wheel tracks.

The downsides to the castering-type sulkies is that it can be difficult to keep them straight on undulating terrain and when traversing slopes...the weight of the operator influences the machine more than a trailering one does. Also you have to be careful when going from forward to backward and vice-versa if the wheels aren't kicked to the side at all...caster wheels have a hard time deciding what to do in those situations and can gouge the turf. What I do is turn just a little to get them spinning around or give a little hop to get my weight off of it for a second. It's really just straight forward and backwards that creates a problem, not that you couldn't gouge with them in soft turf in other conditions....usually not a problem though. They also swing wider than trailering type ones, and can whip you right off it if you spin around too fast. I can actually operate mine in either trailering or castering mode, but it's always in caster mode. Overall I think it's the way to go with a dual hydro mower, but some people hate them, I think mostly because they are harder to keep straight.
Well then my mower is dual hydro. Thank you for clearing that up for me. How is it loading onto the trailer? Any problems going either on or off the trailer?

Darryl G
01-30-2013, 02:27 PM
Nah, no problem loading or anything. And I just step off mine for steep slopes if I need to walk and sometimes the same for turning on really soft turf. They're pretty big/heavy units usually and not very suitable to chaining up to the bars like you can with a single wheel. I can just pull a pin on mine and take it off quickly and then just chain up the bracket. Mine is a Bullrider. I think they got rid of the caster/trailer option on the new ones and they are caster only now.

weaver
01-30-2013, 02:29 PM
Dual hydro just means you have independent control of each wheel, rather than a hydro transmissions that runs both with no control over each one individually. If you can turn the mower just using the controls it's a dual hydro.

I've been running a swivel (castering) sulky for 10+ years and really like it better than the trailering type ones. It is nice that the controls stay in front of you at all times and that you don't have to worrry about it jack-knifing on you when you go backwards. You can get 2 wheel trailering sulkies by the way that will stay in the same wheel tracks.

The downsides to the castering-type sulkies is that it can be difficult to keep them straight on undulating terrain and when traversing slopes...the weight of the operator influences the machine more than a trailering one does. Also you have to be careful when going from forward to backward and vice-versa if the wheels aren't kicked to the side at all...caster wheels have a hard time deciding what to do in those situations and can gouge the turf. What I do is turn just a little to get them spinning around or give a little hop to get my weight off of it for a second. It's really just straight forward and backwards that creates a problem, not that you couldn't gouge with them in soft turf in other conditions....usually not a problem though. They also swing wider than trailering type ones, and can whip you right off it if you spin around too fast. I can actually operate mine in either trailering or castering mode, but it's always in caster mode. Overall I think it's the way to go with a dual hydro mower, but some people hate them, I think mostly because they are harder to keep straight.

Hey Darryl, does weight play a role at all with the swivel wheel sulky? I always wanted one but thought i weighed to much, just thought it would be harder on the hydro system. With the trailer sulky when you turn you're just turning the machine and pulling the operator, and with a swivel you actually are turning the machine,and the person on the sulky.. Bye the way i'm 6ft 250lbs...

LandFakers
01-30-2013, 02:33 PM
Nah, no problem loading or anything. And I just step off mine for steep slopes if I need to walk and sometimes the same for turning on really soft turf. They're pretty big/heavy units usually and not very suitable to chaining up to the bars like you can with a single wheel. I can just pull a pin on mine and take it off quickly and then just chain up the bracket. Mine is a Bullrider. I think they got rid of the caster/trailer option on the new ones and they are caster only now.
Thanks a lot for the Info Darryl!

Darryl G
01-30-2013, 02:38 PM
No problem. Here's the Trimmer Trap Bullrider. It is a bit diff from mine now. http://www.trimmertrap.com/the-joomla-project/14-sample-data-articles/112

Video of it in action. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ok3XnWfsJfI

LandFakers
01-31-2013, 01:08 PM
Is anybody using one of these???
http://www.havenerent.com/index.php?...id=9&Itemid=96

Im leaning pretty good towards this one as my dealer has one for sale.

Darryl G
01-31-2013, 01:20 PM
I don't have any experience with it but it looks pretty decent and sturdy. They have a 7 day no questions asked return policy, which is nice. Just make sure your feet fit on it comfortably. My feet don't fit well on some of them in size 12 steel toed boots.

LandFakers
01-31-2013, 01:29 PM
I don't have any experience with it but it looks pretty decent and sturdy. They have a 7 day no questions asked return policy, which is nice. Just make sure your feet fit on it comfortably. My feet don't fit well on some of them in size 12 steel toed boots.
Im a size 12 as well. The sulky I have on my 36 barely fits my foot. Think I will email the manufacturer and try and get a measurement on the platform. Dealer wont take it out of the box :nono:

Blade Runners
02-10-2013, 01:26 PM
I use the Havener caster wheel sulky on a Scag 36" hydro, 16hp. They are built very well and one thing I like is the quick release pin where it mounts to the mower. You can attach/detach the whole unit in 2 seconds if you want to mow very steep hills without it. It is also pretty easy to chain it up to the bars using the hole drilled in the platform but it is kind of heavy.

As far as maneuverability, one of my guys weighs about 190 or so and mowed a pretty steep decline using it with no issues turning.

brc1989
02-10-2013, 05:05 PM
I used the swivel wheel sulky from these guys:

http://www.selbro.com/id3.html

Used it with a 60 turf tracer with a 20hp Kawasaki. Was a great sulky, quite heavy though but had convenient grease fittings and was very durable. Loved backing up with it a lot easier than pivot arm sulkies. If your mower has at least a 17-18 hp engine it should pull your weight being a hydro drive as well IMO.

Blade Runners
02-10-2013, 05:48 PM
edit to my above post...Selbro is the one I have. Got the names mixed up.

TriCountyLawn
02-10-2013, 06:26 PM
I use a bullrider and have been pretty happy with it. Im a husky guy and you gotta know when to step off of it for a min. You will get used being fluid with your movement cause it can take a bit to make the wheels swivel from a dead stop.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y17/Playin_Dead/Mowing/2012-08-17_12-08-16_136.jpg