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ygim
01-31-2013, 09:31 PM
How many guys smoke cigars while riding mowers?

RussellB
01-31-2013, 09:32 PM
Only on the golf course.

Landrus2
01-31-2013, 09:36 PM
I gave up Cuban were to expensive but dam good cigar:waving:

beano
01-31-2013, 09:40 PM
Only on my own yard while I drink a beer doing it too!

ygim
01-31-2013, 09:42 PM
i will on my larger lawns while listening to my tunes.

gallihergreen
01-31-2013, 09:52 PM
On the mower? Absolutely not! After a long day out on the deck only. :drinkup:
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zechstoker
01-31-2013, 10:26 PM
No cigars for me. I smoke an "old man style" tobacco pipe, but only when I'm in the truck or at home.

knox gsl
01-31-2013, 10:50 PM
I run standers and walk behinds. Maybe once a month I'll enjoy one while in the garage.

hi_speedreed
01-31-2013, 11:30 PM
no smoking of any kind for me. I imagine you guys that do must know your customers pretty well because I know some people who would blow a gasket if you were smoking while doing work for them.

No flame intended, but I have always wondered why you guys who smoke continue to even though you know the dangers?

knox gsl
01-31-2013, 11:47 PM
I'll die from something but I doubt it will be smoking related. I get in 8-10 cigars a year.
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dstifel
01-31-2013, 11:48 PM
Everything has its dangers doesn't it?

bel-nor
02-01-2013, 08:07 AM
Only in the truck and garage. Punch, Brttanica and Hoyo de Monterey Obscuro.

CreativeLawncareSolutions
02-01-2013, 08:11 AM
I like the Makers Mark cigars. Not while working, though. I dip while working haha.

nightshutter
02-01-2013, 10:08 AM
Have any of your customers ever complained? I won't let my help smoke on the job. He started chewing. I think it looks unprofessional. Not that chewing looks any better.

MOturkey
02-01-2013, 10:54 AM
I realize it is a case of "to each his own", but I simply cannot imagine how anyone puts the words "cigar" and "enjoy" in the same sentence! To me, they are absolutely obnoxious. I can smell cigar smoke even if I'm driving down the highway and someone in the traffic ahead is puffing on one. :)

gallihergreen
02-01-2013, 07:38 PM
No flame intended, but I have always wondered why you guys who smoke continue to even though you know the dangers?

I smoke a cigar maybe once a month at most (mainly because of cost), I'm not worried about the dangers. You're going to die somehow might as well enjoy the time you have, besides shoveling cheeseburgers, fries, and sodas down your throat is just as bad for you.
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gallihergreen
02-01-2013, 07:43 PM
Have any of your customers ever complained? I won't let my help smoke on the job. He started chewing. I think it looks unprofessional. Not that chewing looks any better.

I dip, but I keep a spit cup with me. I'd never spit all over someone else's property.
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McG_Landscaping
02-01-2013, 07:47 PM
usually while enjoying a beer after work, while working on equipment, or going on trips to get new equipment :waving: i am not smart enough to be able to work and smoke cigars

pfcjs
02-01-2013, 08:13 PM
Only while on the golf course, the new line of Drew Estate called Acid is really good. I know it sounds crazy, "Acid" but it's a mild-flavored line with the Blondie being the most popular. Very nice.

McG_Landscaping
02-01-2013, 08:20 PM
Only while on the golf course, the new line of Drew Estate called Acid is really good. I know it sounds crazy, "Acid" but it's a mild-flavored line with the Blondie being the most popular. Very nice.

i love the acid line. the krush blue are some of my favorite.

this is probably one of my favorite cigars ive had so far http://www.bestcigarprices.com/cigar-directory/carlos-torano/carlos-torano-master-robusto-maduro-cigar/250-35685.htm

zechstoker
02-01-2013, 08:23 PM
I tried one of the Acid cigars many moons ago. Can't remember what flavor, but it was pretty foul. Might have to try another one.

McG_Landscaping
02-01-2013, 08:26 PM
I tried one of the Acid cigars many moons ago. Can't remember what flavor, but it was pretty foul. Might have to try another one.

theyre definitely not the best but i rather smoke them instead of swishers or black and milds

ygim
02-01-2013, 08:32 PM
Arturo Fuente's are nice also punches

dstifel
02-01-2013, 09:07 PM
Monte cristos for this guy one box a year is what I do. Usually when I'm planning a big project makes me feel like the A-team.
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ygim
02-01-2013, 09:31 PM
Monte cristos for this guy one box a year is what I do. Usually when I'm planning a big project makes me feel like the A-team.
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Nice!!! I get everyone in the family to smoke one at the get togethers.

zechstoker
02-01-2013, 09:52 PM
theyre definitely not the best but i rather smoke them instead of swishers or black and milds

I'd rather smoke dried-out grape vines than them nasty Swishers. lol
Black & Milds are tolerable on a rare occasion, but it's gotta be the regular/original flavor. I tried their apple flavored cigarillos once and about gagged on it. Frickin horrible!

As I stated earlier in the thread, I'm not big on cigars really, but I do try some here and there as a "sampler". The tobacco I smoke in my pipes is manufactured primarily for cigars, so it's better for me to try different flavors with a cigar rather than buying a small pouch of pipe tobacco. Nothing worse than buying a pouch of that stuff, and then realizing quickly that the flavor is less than desirable.

TTM42
02-01-2013, 11:00 PM
Try an Acid Kuba Kuba or in the Drew Estate line a Natural Irish Hops, best cigars I have ever smoked :)

dstifel
02-01-2013, 11:07 PM
What kind of pipe do you have I used to do that but I think I did something wrong could never keep the bowl lit what is your secret?
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KrayzKajun
02-01-2013, 11:23 PM
Last time i smoked a cigar was on Oct. 31st, 2004. It was my 20th birthday, and we had just made it to Baghdad, Iraq. I wish i could remember what kind it was.
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zechstoker
02-01-2013, 11:27 PM
What kind of pipe do you have I used to do that but I think I did something wrong could never keep the bowl lit what is your secret?
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I have a few, but only use a couple regularly. My first one was a Calabrest Bulldog. It got a crack in it though after about a year of using it, so I don't mess with it much anymore. My daily use one is a BC Rocrune that I've had for probably 7 years now. Still in excellent condition. I have another daily use one, but not sure what the brand is. Rather inexpensive whatever it is. I think I paid $40 or $45 for it.

As for my occasional use pipes, I have a Calabash (Sherlock Holmes style pipe) that's about 40 years old. Also have a medium size Church Warden. Those occasional use pipes ran about $150 each, so they don't leave the house much. Especially that Calabash.

On the topic of keeping the bowl lit, much of it depends on how tightly the tobacco gets packed in there. If it's too loose, it has a hard time staying lit, but if you REALLY pack it in there, it can't breathe.

yardguy28
02-01-2013, 11:39 PM
pipe smoking is an art that's for sure. I've been doing it not 6 months yet. already learned a lot.

right now I'm smoking falcons. my great uncle had one. I seem to love them things. have 5-7 bowls already. only use 5 of them though.

zechstoker
02-01-2013, 11:51 PM
I use to always get people coming up to me while I was smoking these, and most everytime they'd tell me something like "I love that smell! My grandfather use to smoke a pipe all the time". Makes me feel like an old man. Haha

wegomow
02-02-2013, 12:45 AM
Never while mowing, I rather kick back and relax and enjoy a cigar, once or twice a month relaxing on my deck.

herler
02-02-2013, 01:47 AM
I don't smoke.

ygim
02-02-2013, 08:12 AM
I usually smoke a pipe in my truck.

yardguy28
02-02-2013, 08:15 AM
I use to always get people coming up to me while I was smoking these, and most everytime they'd tell me something like "I love that smell! My grandfather use to smoke a pipe all the time". Makes me feel like an old man. Haha

that's partly why I took up pipe smoking because I LOVE the smell.

now there was a guy who questioned why people smoke when they know its harmful. well my answer is a couple of them. one, you wanna live forever. two, I'd rather die young doing something I enjoy than live longer trying to quit something or avoid something I enjoy.

there are people out there that actually enjoy smoking. I always have in one way or another. when I was younger I smoked cigarettes. always enjoyed it but for some reason I quit. then picked up dip for a bit. now I've taken up pipe smoking.

CreativeLawncareSolutions
02-02-2013, 08:46 AM
I dip because I'm addicted. Can't quit now!

hi_speedreed
02-02-2013, 10:33 AM
that's partly why I took up pipe smoking because I LOVE the smell.

now there was a guy who questioned why people smoke when they know its harmful. well my answer is a couple of them. one, you wanna live forever. two, I'd rather die young doing something I enjoy than live longer trying to quit something or avoid something I enjoy.

there are people out there that actually enjoy smoking. I always have in one way or another. when I was younger I smoked cigarettes. always enjoyed it but for some reason I quit. then picked up dip for a bit. now I've taken up pipe smoking.

That guy was me. It seems everyone that answered was very defensive. I know it is difficult to have a conversation on a message board because people take things the wrong way but I wasn't trying to get a rise out of anyone, I really wanted to know. I have tried tobacco both smoke and chew. The smoke I never got past the first puff. The chew I liked but I quit. I used to chew while hunting but a job that did not permit it lead me to quit. Then I dipped snuff when I started this venture but I knew it was unhealthy so I gave up all tobacco June 2011.

To answer every person who asked me if I want to live forever, it's not about living forever. I know everyone will die eventually. Some drift off peacefully in their sleep. Some have accidents. Some have life taken from them by others. Some die relatively young from diseases that are preventable but have no cure. The local paper's obit section is full of people in their 40s and 50s who died from diseases linked to tobacco. I don't think someone who makes the statement they would rather die young feels the same way when death comes knocking.

To me it is about having a quality life in my later years. There is no activity I enjoy more than having my health. We will all get older. I want to spend my time playing golf, working in my garden, playing with the dog, hunting and fishing instead of laying in a bed hooked up to oxygen or worse. There is worse and I witnessed it.

I watched a family member who smoked die of esophageal cancer. His throat closed up and he had to eat through a port in his abdominal wall. He would get nauseous and vomit only he could not expel his stomach contents because it was blocked so he would lay in the bathroom and his stomach would convulse until it wore itself out. He was so thirsty but he could not swallow water, he could just roll it around in his mouth and then spit it out. He wasted away to a mere 93 lbs when he died.

I have no illusions of living forever but I am doing whatever I can to prevent dying like that. It was a horrible way to die and directly attributable to smoking.

yardguy28
02-02-2013, 11:19 AM
well some of us would rather spend our younger years enjoying our cigarettes, cigars, pipes, dip, alcohol, food at the risk of what it will mean for us in our later years.

i'm not upset by your questions. i'm just trying to answer your questions. and that is my answer. that is where i'm coming from. that is why i smoke a pipe. that is why i smoked cigarettes.

i'm not one of those guys who necessarily wanna live to be a ripe old age. all i wanna do is enjoy life, enjoy it now. and those happen to be things i enjoy doing. if i die sooner because of it, at least i lead a good life.

that is my answer. i try and live each day as if it were my last. and i don't wanna spend my last day on earth trying to quit a bad but enjoyable habit.

Valk
02-02-2013, 11:50 AM
...later regretting some of the things we've chosen to do to ourselves/others (when we were younger) is also a part of life. Hedonism...make no mistake about it. Not being preachy here :dizzy: because the present is a gift for us to make choices - within any given moment. If our actions/choices are going to hurt anyone, I think it is best if they only affect ourselves rather than another.
:drinkup:

MOturkey
02-02-2013, 05:34 PM
That guy was me. It seems everyone that answered was very defensive. I know it is difficult to have a conversation on a message board because people take things the wrong way but I wasn't trying to get a rise out of anyone, I really wanted to know. I have tried tobacco both smoke and chew. The smoke I never got past the first puff. The chew I liked but I quit. I used to chew while hunting but a job that did not permit it lead me to quit. Then I dipped snuff when I started this venture but I knew it was unhealthy so I gave up all tobacco June 2011.

To answer every person who asked me if I want to live forever, it's not about living forever. I know everyone will die eventually. Some drift off peacefully in their sleep. Some have accidents. Some have life taken from them by others. Some die relatively young from diseases that are preventable but have no cure. The local paper's obit section is full of people in their 40s and 50s who died from diseases linked to tobacco. I don't think someone who makes the statement they would rather die young feels the same way when death comes knocking.

To me it is about having a quality life in my later years. There is no activity I enjoy more than having my health. We will all get older. I want to spend my time playing golf, working in my garden, playing with the dog, hunting and fishing instead of laying in a bed hooked up to oxygen or worse. There is worse and I witnessed it.

I watched a family member who smoked die of esophageal cancer. His throat closed up and he had to eat through a port in his abdominal wall. He would get nauseous and vomit only he could not expel his stomach contents because it was blocked so he would lay in the bathroom and his stomach would convulse until it wore itself out. He was so thirsty but he could not swallow water, he could just roll it around in his mouth and then spit it out. He wasted away to a mere 93 lbs when he died.

I have no illusions of living forever but I am doing whatever I can to prevent dying like that. It was a horrible way to die and directly attributable to smoking.

Life is a risk, of course, but there are those who insist on tempting fate. I've known heavy smokers that seemingly are not adversely effected by the smoking. Our next door neighbor is a perfect example. He was a captain in the Army during WWII, so you can guess how old he is, and smokes like a chimney. However, it is much like jumping out of an airplane. Many do it repeatedly with no problems, but, occasionally, the chute doesn't open, and, well, I've often wondered what those people's last thoughts are on the way down. Perhaps something along the lines of "gee, I wish I hadn't jumped from that perfectly good airplane!"

Seriously, though. My Dad was a heavy smoker who died from a heart attack at 56. One of my wife's brothers died a few years ago from lung cancer at the age of 59. A lifelong smoker, he retired from a federal job with a good pension at 57, with dreams of spending his retirement fishing and going to NASCAR races. Instead, he died two years later, with the final year of his life being a living hell with chemotherapy and radiation treatments. I doubt seriously that having an occasional cigar, or even a couple of cigarettes a day is likely to do enough harm to shorten one's life, but honestly, with all the information out there today about the harmful effects of tobacco, smokeless or otherwise, I, for the life of me, just can't understand why anyone would start smoking or chewing.

yardguy28
02-02-2013, 10:28 PM
well it's like I said before. to some its an enjoyable thing. harmful or not. the enjoyment out weighs the negative effects.

my pipe smoking for example. I'm willing to risk getting mouth or lung cancer for the flavor of the tobacco. to me that flavor is worth it.

for others it's chew, alcohol, food or something else. the enjoyment, thrill, high you get makes it worth the risk.

zechstoker
02-02-2013, 10:31 PM
well it's like I said before. to some its an enjoyable thing. harmful or not. the enjoyment out weighs the negative effects.

my pipe smoking for example. I'm willing to risk getting mouth or lung cancer for the flavor of the tobacco. to me that flavor is worth it.

for others it's chew, alcohol, food or something else. the enjoyment, thrill, high you get makes it worth the risk.
What flavor(s) of tobacco do you prefer?

yardguy28
02-03-2013, 08:27 AM
What flavor(s) of tobacco do you prefer?

when I first started I enjoyed the mocha flavored tobacco. but I've found the cherries to be extremely strong in flavor.

that's all I know about the tobacco I smoke. I couldn't name, names like some people do because I still don't know that stuff. I get my tobacco from a pipe/cigar shop and its there own blends.

lately I've been smoking a blend of cherry and vanilla. but I think I might go back to the 3 cherry blend he has.

how about you?

zechstoker
02-03-2013, 09:45 AM
I've always been partial to the black cherry blends. There use to be a shop here that had a strawberry daiquiri blend that was phenomenal, but they closed down a number of years ago, and now I can't find that flavor anywhere.

yardguy28
02-03-2013, 10:05 AM
here's a link to a tobacco shop I have yet to try maybe you've seen it already.

http://www.boswellpipes.com/index.html

I use to be on the search for a good chocolate flavored tobacco but I ordered one from somewhere and it wasn't even a good tobacco and most tell me it's hard to get the chocolate flavor with tobacco.

so for now I stick with the cherry blends.

zechstoker
02-03-2013, 10:26 AM
Hadn't seen that site before, but they seem to have a nice variety. Looking at the list of tobacco blends, there's one on there I forgot about. Peaches & Cream was good too. I've never ordered tobacco online, but I might try it later. I think we're down to one smoke shop that carries pipe tobacco around here, and I know it's only a matter of time until that one closes too.

yardguy28
02-03-2013, 02:21 PM
yeah I only have one tobacco shop where I am but they have 3 locations.

I ordered a chocolate blend from another place I found online. that was a mistake. no chocolate taste and if wasn't even a good smoke otherwise. that has been my only online experience so far. I keep thinking about ordering something from the site I gave you. I'd get a smaller amount from what I did before though if I could.

personally I'd like to visit that place in person if work ever allowed me some vacation time.

zechstoker
02-04-2013, 10:15 AM
Vacation sounds good. I'd like to take one of those myself :)

Dugann
02-06-2013, 07:15 AM
No cigars or ciggies on customers property IMO. Not an anti smoker, my crew members seem to all smoke but I think in today PC world most customers (especially high end) find it unacceptable and unprofessional so to avoid issue I don't allow it. Me personally and like RussellB said a good cigar on a golf course with a cold brew.... just don't get much better then that. Just my 2 cents.

yardguy28
02-06-2013, 11:16 AM
personally I'm not worried about what the client thinks. I don't smoke while work in the first place but if I ever did go back to smoking cigs or hired an employee who smoked there would be only 2 rules.

don't throw your butts on the clients property and you can only smoke at the truck/trailer after your work is done or if your taking a break.

besides that I'm not into hiding what I do just because someone might find it unacceptable. if someone doesn't hire me or want me working on there property because I'm a smoker then I don't want or need them as a client.

LandscaperPro
02-06-2013, 04:28 PM
Nice Thread! Love it! Can't smoke in the office, but on the occasion I'll have a Swisher Sweet or Black and Mild.

dstifel
02-06-2013, 04:38 PM
Just thinking about this today one of the guys that helps me smokes and i let him smoke in the truck because i would rather him do it there then on the property and well its a work truck anyway. Recently i have gotten the truck lettered up and now I'm wondering what that image is to passer byes. I never have let him throw the buds out but I'm thinking about saying no more, spent money to make the truck look nice to me having a nice truck and looking up to see an employee smoking is not a good thing? Keep in mind I'm not an anti smoker and probably smoke about a pack of cigerates a month which isn't a lot but I'm not sure if I'm being unreasonable or not?

Groomer
02-06-2013, 04:58 PM
dstifel, if he's smokin' in the truck, then you're smoking right along with him. (secondhand smoke.)

dstifel
02-06-2013, 05:18 PM
Window is fully down and smoke leaves the truck quickly doesn't happen in cold months where he can't have it down all the way.
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yardguy28
02-06-2013, 07:29 PM
I can't believe you people let your businesses and clients or possible clients dictate what you do and where you do. your so hungry for business your gonna let a bunch of clients or possible clients tell you, you can't smoke in your own truck because your worried about them not hiring you because your a smoker?

seriously since when did smoking or being a smoker become such a bad image. I don't really think it has or ever will. people smoke, it's a fact of life. people drink, it's a fact of life.

if people are seriously gonna judge me and or my business based on things that have NOTHING to do with the business then I don't want them as clients in the first place. I find it disgusting as a human being that we would not hire someone or not use there services just because they smoke. that we would frown upon a business because we saw one of there employees smoking in a company vehicle or around the back of the building.

smoking it bad for your health but its not some evil thing to be ashamed of or kept hidden. and if people are that shallow to not hire or use services from people who smoke then I'm embarrassed to be part of the human race.

hi_speedreed
02-06-2013, 08:48 PM
I can't believe you people let your businesses and clients or possible clients dictate what you do and where you do. your so hungry for business your gonna let a bunch of clients or possible clients tell you, you can't smoke in your own truck because your worried about them not hiring you because your a smoker?

seriously since when did smoking or being a smoker become such a bad image. I don't really think it has or ever will. people smoke, it's a fact of life. people drink, it's a fact of life.

if people are seriously gonna judge me and or my business based on things that have NOTHING to do with the business then I don't want them as clients in the first place. I find it disgusting as a human being that we would not hire someone or not use there services just because they smoke. that we would frown upon a business because we saw one of there employees smoking in a company vehicle or around the back of the building.

smoking it bad for your health but its not some evil thing to be ashamed of or kept hidden. and if people are that shallow to not hire or use services from people who smoke then I'm embarrassed to be part of the human race.

Smoking has had a bad image for a while now. Look at how smokers are shunned. They have become social pariahs. I don't smoke. None of my friends smoke. In 1965 42.4 percent of American adults smoked. Today it's 20.8 percent. As much as you don't want to hear it, it has become socially acceptable to call out a smoker. I would not permit a service I hired to smoke on my property. I would not permit anyone to smoke in my vehicle and the non smokers I have talked to feel the same. Statistically smokers take more breaks and call in sick more than people who don't.

I carpooled to a golf outing last summer and there was a smoker in the car. He was told by the driver he could smoke when we stopped and away from the vehicle. Restaurants banned smoking, so smokers ducked out the door. Now restaurants are banning smoking within 30meters of the door. Many parks and golf courses have banned smoking entirely. Smoking is banned at hospitals and many hospitals ban smoking not just in the building but anywhere on campus. Dorm are smoke free, bars are smoke free, All government facilities banned smoking. As of Jan. 2 2013 1129 colleges have a totally smoke free campus. They are not just little liberal arts colleges either major DI colleges: Auburn, Arkansas, Florida, Central Florida, California, every college in Iowa, Kentucky, Louisville, Texas, Michigan just to name a few. I know Lowes banned employee smoking on Lowes property. The list of where you can smoke is much easier to list. You can smoke in your home, your car, your property unless you are a business opened to the public and private clubs.

Smokers pay higher rates for insurance. Smokers pay higher taxes in the form of tobacco taxes. Smokers are social outcasts. Fat and unhealthy people are not far behind. I am not trying to make you mad, I am just showing you that smokers do have a bad image.

yardguy28
02-06-2013, 09:12 PM
maybe it's just because I don't have a bad opinion of smokers that I don't really see that many people. maybe it's because I use to smoke 2 packs a day. maybe it's because when I hire someone to perform a service for me like say a plumber or electrician I could care less if they are a smoker or not. as long as butts aren't left on my property I don't care.

I actually don't pay attention to who smokes or not. when I see a truck with company info on it I'm to busy ready the info to even notice the driver, let alone if they are smoking.

guess its because I'm not that critical of people I don't bother to pay attention if someone is a smoker or not.

at any rate I personally refuse to let people dictate my personal habits during my business hours. I will go as far as to not spit directly in front of client or throw cig butts on there property but that's it. and as I said if someone doesn't want to hire me because of something like that they can hire someone else.

I'm not gonna change who I am or what I do for business. whether I smoke or not isn't important or shouldn't be. what is, is how well do I service your property.